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At first, I thought it was weird that MPM Ironhide wasn't on the list, and then I thought about it, and I can see that you are right, I do think SS Ironhide is the superior figure. Add in those sweet, sweet upgrades, and I see how much this figure crushes the MPM.

Will, I do need to ask this question, but do you think that with all these new Optimus Prime figures that have come out since you last wrote that list way back when, an update is well overdue? I tmwould love to see one, but I think it would be best to keep that for when MP-44 comes out, plus that would let you focus on other lists

Nathaniel Prime wrote:At first, I thought it was weird that MPM Ironhide wasn't on the list, and then I thought about it, and I can see that you are right, I do think SS Ironhide is the superior figure. Add in those sweet, sweet upgrades, and I see how much this figure crushes the MPM.

Will, I do need to ask this question, but do you think that with all these new Optimus Prime figures that have come out since you last wrote that list way back when, an update is well overdue? I would love to see one, but I think it would be best to keep that for when MP-44 comes out, plus that would let you focus on other lists

Optimus and Megatron are getting more lists, yeah. The original wont be updated, instead the new ones will be about specific representations.

Oh and I cant believe our reply to the idea that the MP is always number 1 wasn't a link ot the shockwave article.

Really good updated list, William. I would've had Siege Ironhide higher, but I can't dispute any of the toys themselves listed.

The only thing with the Masterpiece was it was totally about the cartoon look. I would have liked to have seen a bit of the toy aesthetic worked into it. But yeah, you can't argue that it is the best Ironhide toy.

cruizerdave wrote:The only thing with the Masterpiece was it was totally about the cartoon look. I would have liked to have seen a bit of the toy aesthetic worked into it. But yeah, you can't argue that it is the best Ironhide toy.

What I like about Masterpiece Ironhide (and many other Masterpieces that do the same) is how it combined the real world vehicle mode accuracy (which also meant accuracy to the toy's vehicle mode) and blended it with a cartoon accurate robot mode. I think this is what I wanted in a Masterpiece, and I for one would be glad if this continues

I like the Siege and Animated versions!

william-james88 wrote:As for what Epsilon Delta was talking about, that could be a fun feature, sure.

Sweet, I look forward to it in the future.

There is another Ironhide no one has talked about and that I didn't really know about: Cyberverse movie Ironhide from DOTM. Is that toy any good? He looks good.

william-james88 wrote:There is another Ironhide no one has talked about and that I didn't really know about: Cyberverse movie Ironhide from DOTM. Is that toy any good? He looks good.

I have the blue redeco that came with Legion Leadfoot and he's pretty good for his size. A bit fiddly in the transformation, especially with the arms, head and car roof. And his shoulder articulation is... questionable (what else is new with more recent figures?), but if you can find him for cheap and are willing to look past faults, I'd say pick him up.


Transformers Dark of the Moon Ironhide (Target) Gallery

It's a shame to see Timelines Ironhide get removed from the honorable mentions. He looked more like Ironhide and is the only update to more or less replicate the original's gimmick.

I know these are old, but still:

william-james88 wrote:unlike the G1 cartoon and the other G1 toys, the robot doesnt make up the full alt mode but rather just half of it, where the other half is a sled.

Except, the sleds are part of the character design. Only Ratchet's ever showed up, and only once, but it still shows that the sleds were part of the animation models (which means that the MPs screwed up). Honestly, Ratchet and Ironhide's G1 toys are closer to the cartoon designs than they get credit for. Largely what Kohara did was fill in the crotch, migrate the shoulders up, and add heads. And the lack of vehicle kibble because of the sled meant that Dery didn't simplify them much beyond that.

william-james88 wrote:Universe Ironhide: many people have said it already, but this mold is terrible and would never feature on any best of list. It doesnt even look like Ironhide that much more than any of the other G1 themed Ironhides we've had.

Well, he looks more like him than CW Ironhide does, but that's about all he has going for him. Between the fails and the (last I checked) stupid expensive price he goes for on eBay.. Ugh. Thank goodness for SIEGE.

william-james88 wrote:HFTD Ironhide: For the movie Ironhides, the voyager is ok and I just picked the recon one because it had the most playability and a realy nice headsculpt. The deluxe HFTD toy has a neat transformation but doesnt fit anywhere in a collection

I dunno, he fits with DotM Deluxe Optimus I'd think. And his knees work.

william-james88 wrote:

Latebrus-K wrote:Thank you for clarifying. Once again, armchair criticism misses the mark.

If you like Movie Ironhide, I would recomend getting the SS version (I mean obviously, or else I would not have written it in the list). I like the leader for being big and fun (and scaling well with the leaders of old) but the SS is better for a few reasons:

- less fake parts (the leader has a fake grill which really pisses me off for some reason)
- less extraneous kibble (really dont like all the kibble that ends up all over the arms of the leader plus the back is pretty bad in terms of kibble)
- cleaner truck mode (this is something no ironhide ever gets right and while the SS still leaves much to be desired, its a bit better, especially at the front)
- better colours (less blue)

And I would assume, it also has knee articulation worth mentioning? Because that's another mark against the DotM Leader, is his rubbish knee articulation.

And yeah, he has horrible altmode integration. They completely threw that under the bus to accommodate the AA-powered electronics and pop-out chest cannon. Adding insult to injury, his eyes are the wrong color and they botched a perfect opportunity to give him a Cybertron Optimus-style retracting battle mask.