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-Kanrabat- wrote:Rated X wrote:I would be inclined to think that when a figure is as intricate as these 5 you picked, theyre not considered a "shellformer". To me personally a "shellformer" is more of a derogatory term for a robot that wears 80% of his alt mode on his back as a backpack. These figures you picked dont fit that definition. If we go by the logic youre using virtually all CHUG autobot cars would be shellformers because the hood, roof, and doors form a sort of "shell" over robot parts. Actually shell forming in the 90s was the nail in the coffin for "bricks" which is a good thing. It just takes a good engineer to incorporate the right amount of shell-forming and brick-forming into one figure so that it isnt too much of either extreme. I would call these figures you picked "complex" rather than calling them shellformers. Thats just my opinion.
For once, I agree with you. Not at 100%, but you got a serious point here about the cars.
Panels hanging off the arms. Panels hanging off the arms everywhere.
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Any figure with simulated blood tops the awesome list
And I'm totally game for a Nemesis Prime list. But... would it have to include RiD Scourge and Black Lio Convoy? Is any Black Prime fair game, regardless of symbol?
Two figures would pose a problem though: United Black Optimus Prime (still G1 Prime, but undercover) and Alternity Convoy Super Black (repurposed as a redeemed Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime).
Well if that list ever gets written, it wont be by me due to my limited knowledge on these. If any fan or staff wants to write it in the style that these lists are written , please send me a PM. As for what to do with more complicated toys, as long as you explain it its fine (either in the intro or honourable mentions). Also, from experience, a list is more fun if you stick to the more mainstream stuff, unless the list is about rare and less known toys and decos. Because like that, more people can get involved with the discussion
Nemesis Prime/Black Convoy/Scourge is definitely one of my favorite things to collect within Transformers so I'd love to see what kind of list people would put together. For me it does shave to be an evil character so MP-1B wouldn't make the list, but MP-10B would. I'd probably include the Black Convoy pen on my list, I don't care what the figure turns into, it's awesome! I really want to see Hasbro make a Scourge figure out of Leader Ultra Magnus because I really want a large Scourge figure that looks a little like this.
Emerje
I think you're ruling out awesome stuff if you keep it to a Decepticon list. I understand MP-10b over MP-01b, but come on, you can't deny Nucleon Quest Super Convoy's awesomeness, and he's an Autobot
All black makes him look a bit... dull? I've thought of making a list of contenders, but... it's quite long and a doozy if we count every single evil clone or lookalikes, including the Darksides.
thanos13omega wrote: and could you consider g1 ultra magnus?
Noideaforaname wrote:RotF Mixmaster also gets my vote for very much the same reasons.
Boxkicker wrote:I think G1 Scourge deserves an honorable mention at least. he was basically robot stuffed into a two-part shell.
william-james88 wrote:Boxkicker wrote:I think G1 Scourge deserves an honorable mention at least. he was basically robot stuffed into a two-part shell.
But was he a good toy?
-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of amazing AOE Shellformers, AOE Voyager Galvatron should be here as well. The shell fold completely on his back, turning into "wings". This is a TF that you just cant tell what the hell his altmode would be by looking at the robot mode alone. That is quite a feat.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Rated X wrote:I would be inclined to think that when a figure is as intricate as these 5 you picked, theyre not considered a "shellformer". To me personally a "shellformer" is more of a derogatory term for a robot that wears 80% of his alt mode on his back as a backpack. These figures you picked dont fit that definition. If we go by the logic youre using virtually all CHUG autobot cars would be shellformers because the hood, roof, and doors form a sort of "shell" over robot parts. Actually shell forming in the 90s was the nail in the coffin for "bricks" which is a good thing. It just takes a good engineer to incorporate the right amount of shell-forming and brick-forming into one figure so that it isnt too much of either extreme. I would call these figures you picked "complex" rather than calling them shellformers. Thats just my opinion.
For once, I agree with you. Not at 100%, but you got a serious point here about the cars.
Panels hanging off the arms. Panels hanging off the arms everywhere.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Casting in a few things:
1) AoE Crosshairs made it work very well. I think he is a great shellformer.
2) That Vehicon definitely wins. that is the smoothest shell placement ever
3) AoE Armor Knight Optimus deserved a spot. That thing captured the knight look so good. it was badass
4) AoE Hound. Everything folded up so nicely. his roof and cab folded into themselves! That was a great transformer, one of my AoE favorites. That guy deserves a mention or a spot.
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Casting in a few things:
1) AoE Crosshairs made it work very well. I think he is a great shellformer.
2) That Vehicon definitely wins. that is the smoothest shell placement ever
3) AoE Armor Knight Optimus deserved a spot. That thing captured the knight look so good. it was badass
4) AoE Hound. Everything folded up so nicely. his roof and cab folded into themselves! That was a great transformer, one of my AoE favorites. That guy deserves a mention or a spot.
Awesome list, thanks! And the reason I didnt put Hound is because I didnt see him as a shellformer. He doesnt really have a shell, he just folds in on himself, like Evasion Mode Prime. At least, that's what I thought.
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:Boxkicker wrote:I think G1 Scourge deserves an honorable mention at least. he was basically robot stuffed into a two-part shell.
But was he a good toy?
Yes
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
ZeroWolf wrote:Another great list willthough a bit gutted to see cybershark only got an honourable mention, he's a fantastic figure
Va'al wrote:Do we have a best toaster list? Because do I have a toaster for you..
william-james88 wrote:Va'al wrote:Do we have a best toaster list? Because do I have a toaster for you..
Wouldnt that list just be 1 toy. Admitedly that would be the best toy, but still the best of one is not a great list. I could make a list a best household object transformers
Va'al wrote:william-james88 wrote:Va'al wrote:Do we have a best toaster list? Because do I have a toaster for you..
Wouldnt that list just be 1 toy. Admitedly that would be the best toy, but still the best of one is not a great list. I could make a list a best household object transformers
Toasters or nuthin.
william-james88 wrote:Va'al wrote:william-james88 wrote:Va'al wrote:Do we have a best toaster list? Because do I have a toaster for you..
Wouldnt that list just be 1 toy. Admitedly that would be the best toy, but still the best of one is not a great list. I could make a list a best household object transformers
Toasters or nuthin.
I like your enthusiasm and thus feel free to write the list and be our next guest writer
Treetop Maximus wrote:That Vehicon looks pretty cool. I still want the FE, though, even though everyone says buy the RID. The RID line was tiny as all hell, even by modern standards.
Kyleor wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:That Vehicon looks pretty cool. I still want the FE, though, even though everyone says buy the RID. The RID line was tiny as all hell, even by modern standards.
I have both, and both are pretty cool.
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