hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
william-james88 wrote:hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
Optimutt wrote:Finally The Death of Optimus Prime. Sure, it was a bit of a scam as (Spoilers) Optimus Prime wasn't really dead. He abandoned the name and then Cybertron under the moniker Orion Pax. It set up the complexities of both MTMTE and RiD very well, leading into the tales of two groups. And all of this after the war ended. It was a bold decision by the IDW creative team, and it managed to bring in so much depth to the characters and to Cybertronian life that we otherwise would never have seen.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
william-james88 wrote:hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
Quint wrote:william-james88 wrote:hausjam wrote:I appreciate all the poor saps who had to buy decades of comics to make possible fun movies like Superman, Batman, and the avengers. But I can’t reconcile the existence of transformers comics. The toys, cartoons and movies already exist. We don’t need silly fluff, transformers comics.
Did you know transformers comics came out before the toys and the show, in the 80s? They are just as much a part of the brand.
It was Marvel Comics' Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky who created the entire premise and all of the characters, so, erm, yeah the comic books are pretty integral
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:Holy crap -- how can you make this list and not include Death of Optimus Prime + Robots In Disguise 1-16? That arc is absolutely one of the greatest Transformer stories of all time. Till All Are One is great, and I'd have it on the list, but not at the expense of the story that brilliantly put Starscream in power in the first place.
I agree with Chaos Theory at #1, and obviously Last Stand of the Wreckers and Till All Are One belong here. But Shadowplay was merely "quite good" and that Ironhide mini was totally forgettable for me.
So my list would be...
5). Lost Light #25 (Just a fantastic grace note to end this saga on.)
4). Till All Are One 1-12
3). Last Stand of the Wreckers
2). Death of Optimus Prime + RID 1-16
1). Chaos Theory
...With apologies to Escalation and Devastation, which really were great. Sorry Simon.
ScottyP wrote:^ Yeah, Stormbringer came up in our staff discussion while putting this together. Definitely great, but I think it's "Top 10" material rather than top 5.
Carnivius_Prime wrote:hah, i've actually read some of these and these are supposedly the best? Wow ok. IDW TF G1 stuff was really not written for me then. I thought Last Stand was... eh ok but Sins was bloody awful.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Theforgottentaxi, the staff discussion mentioned above did also include those specific issues of RID, so your tastes are very close to ours (our lists are quite similar afterall). The reason I chose not to include it in the top 5 was because it was rather long and thus less obvious to pinpoint exactly what i wuld recomend. For instance, the starscream ise to power, yes, but the Syndromica suff, no. Also, I really didn't like the death of optimus prime. It felt like a cheap marketting ploy, and in any case the real begining to the post DOOP era is actually Chaos Theory so I felt everything was covered there.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Eric Holmes. Duly noted . It has indeed been a while since I read through Origin
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Eric Holmes. Duly noted . It has indeed been a while since I read through Origin
Ah yes, Eric Holmes. Stuart Holmes wrote Spotlight: Ramjet then?
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:4. Megatron: Origin Up until this point, Megatron was quite one dimensional. The cackling supervillain. In Origin, Furman not only added a huge amount of depth to his character but actually humanised him too. In IDWverse, Megatron was a miner. Part of an oppressed underclass. That reluctantly rose up against injustice to overthrow those that enslaved his people. Megatron and by extension the first generation Decepticons, were the Heroes of IDWverse. The Autobots were the bad guys. That spin alone made me smile and got me into the whole series.
Furman didn’t write Megatron Origin, that was Stuart Holmes IIRC.
Eric Holmes. Duly noted . It has indeed been a while since I read through Origin
Ah yes, Eric Holmes. Stuart Holmes wrote Spotlight: Ramjet then?
Stuart Moore, getting closer
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
william-james88 wrote:And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
william-james88 wrote:william-james88 wrote:And about Stormbringer, I read it was was not a fan. The art was great but I just didnt get the end. How was Optimus able to take him down when no one else could not? It jut felt like all build off to little payoff that in no way felt earned. Love that Megatron stuff but in the end it just didnt feel as obvious to belonging on this top 5 list than the other picks did.
Hi, nobody responded to this yet, which is too bad since I wish someone could give me some answers about the end and how Optimus was able to defeat Thunderwing with just a gun when no one else could. It happens to be one of the main points why I do not think this story is as good as the rest, due to the rather weak ending.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
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