ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Man, I completely forgot how much of a total fail the PotP Dinobots were. Especially Grimlock, god I hate that toy.
I’m with ya, Densh. We’ve wanted CHUG Dinobots for YEARS, and what should have been as big a deal as Devastator (I know you don’t care for him, but you can’t deny he was an event of a toy release) ended up being Grimlock featuring scrawny dino-babies.
They're not scrawny, I don't get how people see them as such. Also, the Dinobots got a better deal than the Constructicons did. The Dinobots all actually have proper arm articulation.
And Slag, Sludge, Snarl, and Swoop also have significant added articulation in dino mode. Snarl's forelegs aren't any more articulated, but still.
Look, money talks. If there was no interest in these dinobots, then Hasbro wouldnt be releasing a red chest swoop and fans wouldnt already have preordered it. I dont have problems with these toys, they were done fine, especially if we see them as updates to the G1 toys. And the fact that they actually work well as a combiner is something extra that balances out any dissapointment I may have in other areas (like the sizes).
And like someone said, if size is an issue, we can still use these with legends versions of characters for some fun scenes. Thats the beauty of Hasbro making BB, Megatron, Optimus and Starscream all the time in various classes, we have more toys to use for various scales and scenes.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Randomhero wrote:Emiliano Santalucia was given the task of making a design for Galvatron only. He wasn’t told he’d be a headmaster. We’ve seen plenty of this from his other designs that omit the gimmicks such as overlord where overlord straight up had the power masters in him.
He’s not always told the gimmick, just hired to make a new modernized character.
This is what I was on about.
I dont get it, Randomhero just wrote that Galvatron was not initially designed with the head master gimmick. Is that what you were saying too? Didnt sound like it.
Doesnt matter though, what I am trying to say had nothing to do with the development of the toy, it was just about how he could be better. Of all the characters that become headmasters in Titans Return, Galvatron is the only one that really suffered for it, so its a real shame that of all the toys, he actually has space to store a normal head.
Ironhidensh wrote:I'm always amazed at the lack of love for MP Tracks. Yeah, he is one of the weakest post MP-10 molds, but its still a MP.
That quote really reinforces what I was thinking, that there is lack of love for the figure and that its one of the weakest MPs. I expect more from an MP. Also, the early reviews were positive, so its really word of mouth that made the toy's value sink the first year it came out. I find that quite fascinating.
ScottyP wrote:I usually agree with these to some extent but I think these are all poor choices.
Maybe Galvatron belongs here. Tracks is also a good toy and I'll repeat here what I said on the podcast a while back - not liking the backpack is 90% likely due to transforming it wrong
Jokes aside, I dont have any problems with the backpack itself, its more the build and design of the figure. Glad you think Galvatron might belong here, he's the one that others seemed the most out of place, which comes to show how diverse all our opinions are
GreenGald wrote:I'd say that a DIShororable #6 would have to go to PotP Starscream. The mold itself was deeply flawed before the revision, it also just didnt feel like a starscream. Even the combiner wars leader starscream i.m.o was just decent. Im really hoping this new siege one will be better.
It will be better, because when you hit rock bottom, the only way to go is up
POTP Starscream is a great example of why I would not have placed him on my list. From the first time I saw him, I had problems. I hated a lot about him, proportions, simplicity. And getting him in hand, I found that he was indeed as lackluster and crap as I thought he would be. So there wasnt much dissapointment. It's not a good toy. I dont think any bad toy should be on my list since this is not about bad toys. Its good toys that could have been so much better! Robot modes for Devastator, a locking neck for roadrage (how that is missing on an MP is shameful), a decent looking head for Galvatron, giving Fort max his own legs rather than Metroplex', decent heels for windblade.... urgh!!! So close to being great toys and yet so far now.
If you all want to see truly bad toys, I have a list for that, and a lot of what people are mentionning is on there:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ime/34791/MaverickPrime wrote:I'd add Airachnid for obvious reasons and PotP Predaking, that thing is so bad that I refuse to believe those saying it's good are being honest, not a single sword, they are all kibbletastic and when you manage to outbrick G1, you know you screwed up.
All I can say is I think POTP Predaking is good and I am honest. He has a better mix of stability and poseability than any combiner I have ever dealt with, including 3p.
Bucky wrote:Another good list. It’s always nice to see these. I get where most of this list is coming from, but my personal disappointments are different. I think that’s why I like the comments on these lists so much. We’re all part of the same community of collectors, but we’re all divided into these little sub factions, in a way, in terms of what we look for in a toy, what works, or doesn’t work for us, what disappoints us, what’s refreshing, and ultimately what makes or breaks a toy. So I think this list’s subject is very interesting. There’s a lot of different perspectives.
Thanks Bucky, you always know how to sum things up just so perfectly
And yeah, thats why I didnt bother with honourable mentions, the entire comments section serves as an addition to the list.
Kyleor wrote:No 'Butterfly Optimus' on the list? Disappointed.
That robot armor mode is so bad I keep him in alt mode always.
Which Optimus is that?
IHaveQuestions wrote:okay but why is he standing on bread
You have questions and I have answers, thats not bread, it's coasters made of cork. Whait, is that really an answer though?
Besides, Grimlock got in on the crazy reinvention with his original Classics toy, and if you want a bizarre G1-Bayformer hybrid (the look most T30 toys had) Grimlock there's the FoC toy so in his case at least the whole "New versions" angle is already covered. 
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