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shajaki wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, can we PLEASE stop perpetuating the term "CHUG"?

ive been trying to perpetuate C/G, as in classics/generations. i figure that covers everything and its not dumb sounding.

That's a good one. i always feel bad that Reveal the shield gets left out of chug but i use it so people know what i am referring to. I guess we could simply just use Classics too since it came first and set a precedent for the lines to come.

Wolfman Jake wrote:
Also, can we PLEASE stop perpetuating the term "CHUG"?

agreed it is starting to get irritating hearing that term

Wolfman Jake wrote:

welcometothedarksyde wrote:I know that no one is going to agree with me on upscaling these characters, but the Decepticons from the first movie toyline are almost all totally out of scale with the Autobots. Blackout although not much taller is substantially bulkier than Optimus Prime, instead he's a puny Voyager. Brawl was upscaled, but then he was too large. He should be Voyager/ Ultra according to the scale guides I'm aware of. Lastly Bonecrusher should've been a voyager as well to scale with any Optimus from that line. They make these awesome and huge onscreen characters but then give them the shaft offscreen.

They can only make so many figures at a certain price point in each series. If there were more Voyagers and fewer Deluxe figures, the sales would surely suffer. You're going to sell more product at a lower price point.

Think it's way too late for those 2007 Movie figures to merit getting any update toys. Think the main problem lies in none of the those guys listed getting any personalities.

Would rather the CHUG toy line focus mainly on G1 update toys. If their needs to be any non G1 update toys, Then I'd rather see characters who had personalities get the toys.

Think movie update toys are such a hard sell. That 3rd parties are even staying away from making full figures.

Great list, completely agree with Galvatron getting an upscale another one I can think of is Legends movie devestator as that was better then the actual movie devestator we did get. Oh and the beast hunters terrorcons, got the upscaled cut throat and I love him to pieces it's a shame they never did the rest

i have no intentions of selling my Classics Galvatron, but that toy REALLY needs upscaling. i mean Classics Megatron is a big gun. why not turn Galvatron into a canon/bigger gun or a bigger tank? besides it's going to "shrink" next to Fansproject Rodimus.

And THUNDERWING!

I'll make this real easy. ALL of the deluxe and legend Decepticons need to be upscaled! All of them.

1984forever wrote:I'll make this real easy. ALL of the deluxe and legend Decepticons need to be upscaled! All of them.

Okay, where does that line of thinking come from?

ZeroWolf wrote:

1984forever wrote:I'll make this real easy. ALL of the deluxe and legend Decepticons need to be upscaled! All of them.

Okay, where does that line of thinking come from?

At a guess, 1984.

Good list. Don't really agree with Trypticon though (assuming you are talking strictly about upscaling and not new moulds). Upscaling that mould would've left us with an even more expensive Trypticon that missed the mark.

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, can we PLEASE stop perpetuating the term "CHUG"?

ive been trying to perpetuate C/G, as in classics/generations. i figure that covers everything and its not dumb sounding.

That's a good one. i always feel bad that Reveal the shield gets left out of chug but i use it so people know what i am referring to. I guess we could simply just use Classics too since it came first and set a precedent for the lines to come.

I just use Classics myself seeing as that's where it all started.

Shackwave wrote:And THUNDERWING!

Absolutely. A Leader Class.

I regret passing on Deluxe Galvatron way back when...the reason I did was this exact reason. I want a leader class. Cyclonus had an almost perfect bot mode, I did purchase but it has the same issue. Beast wars Abominus...I passed him up at clearance price.

The Classics Seekers. It's a great (if dated) mold but it's too goddamn small. The Seekers were always bigger than the Autobot cars in the cartoon, and in any case since when is an F-15 the same size ans a Lamborghini Countach? An upscaled Classics Seeker with updated engineering (so better articulation, better torso proportions, the null rays being on armatures so they got out of the way of the wings etc) would be a perfect CHUG Seeker.

Va'al wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

1984forever wrote:I'll make this real easy. ALL of the deluxe and legend Decepticons need to be upscaled! All of them.

Okay, where does that line of thinking come from?

At a guess, 1984.

Oh I got that just I meant was he following cartoon, toy or comic logic. Plus is he including the cassettes which were always supposed to be small?

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, can we PLEASE stop perpetuating the term "CHUG"?

ive been trying to perpetuate C/G, as in classics/generations. i figure that covers everything and its not dumb sounding.

That's a good one. i always feel bad that Reveal the shield gets left out of chug but i use it so people know what i am referring to. I guess we could simply just use Classics too since it came first and set a precedent for the lines to come.

Actually I like to use the term CHURG as that covers Classics, Henkai/Hunt for the Decepticons, United/Universe, Reveal the Shield, and Generations.

I can't believe Sky Lynx didn't make the list. A larger, more up-scaled version of Sky Lynx would be so cool.

And I hate to point out the pink gorilla in the room, but this is why there are 3rd party companies turning out their interpretations of many of these figures. UniqueToys themselves released their Mania King, homage to Galvatron, in Voyager Class size. Two versions of it in fact, with the second one being "Vintage" or in cartoon accurate colors.

FansToys did a bang-up job on their Quakewave, homage to Shockwave, that they had multiple releases of the figure just to meet demand. The figure is amazing, but it fits better with Masterpiece figures. If you want an excellent Hasbro/Takara Voyager Shockwave, then Transformers Prime: Beast Hunters' Shockwave is the one for you.

wolverinetodd wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, can we PLEASE stop perpetuating the term "CHUG"?

ive been trying to perpetuate C/G, as in classics/generations. i figure that covers everything and its not dumb sounding.

That's a good one. i always feel bad that Reveal the shield gets left out of chug but i use it so people know what i am referring to. I guess we could simply just use Classics too since it came first and set a precedent for the lines to come.

Actually I like to use the term CHURG as that covers Classics, Henkai/Hunt for the Decepticons, United/Universe, Reveal the Shield, and Generations.

we're trying to escape silly sounding anagram.

All the Legends need up scaling. It's one of the worst things Hasbro has done. I hate Legends. Wish they'd bring back scouts.
Hun-gurrr and Sunstorm and the others should have been repaints of their Voyager counterparts.
I always wish Voyager Blades had gotten the more G1 accurate colour scheme of the legend.
Hopefully the new combiner wars Thundercracker will get repainted as all the other seekers. The original six and the new ones like Acid Storm and Hotlink.

On the subject of downsizing i wish all the deluxe cars were scouts to fit in with the Diaclones and G2 Laserrods. Energon Strongarm, Rotf Hubcap and RTS Windcharger are all great examples of nicely articulated scours.

Legends are an entirely different kettle of fish than CHUG though- it's a totally different scale. It works wonders for really big guys like Fort Max or Tidal Wave, who couldn't possibly be in scale with CHUG figures.

How the hell did Thunderwing not make the list?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Shackwave wrote:And THUNDERWING!

Absolutely. A Leader Class.

Thirded. In addition, want a legends class robot to fit inside toy.

MINDVVIPE wrote:How the hell did Thunderwing not make the list?

Forgot all about him.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Va'al wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

1984forever wrote:I'll make this real easy. ALL of the deluxe and legend Decepticons need to be upscaled! All of them.

Okay, where does that line of thinking come from?

At a guess, 1984.

Oh I got that just I meant was he following cartoon, toy or comic logic. Plus is he including the cassettes which were always supposed to be small?

4 out of 5 on the list are Decepticons, that means that legends and deluxe scale are too small for Decepticons. The seekers would have been awesome at Henkei Skyfire's height. Most of the MP cassettes are sized correctly, with the exception of Ravage... who has been downsized from Jaguar to alley cat. Leaving Ravage's weapons separate would have made for a bigger figure. And yes, I am following 1984 logic. Did things change?

It's a duck!

Unicron really should have a titan class (or bigger!) figure. Sucka should be the biggest TF of all (with possible exception of Primus) but he's not even close so far.

Optimum Supreme wrote:Unicron really should have a titan class (or bigger!) figure. Sucka should be the biggest TF of all (with possible exception of Primus) but he's not even close so far.

A scale Unicron, I wonder if my city would entertain the idea of a Unicron park. Probably not but one can dream...it would be like the Epcot Center.