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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby NormT81 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:19 am

approx how big is this guy?
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Blurrz » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:40 am

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NormT81 wrote:approx how big is this guy?


It's a deluxe class figure;

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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Forgotten » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:54 am

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it's just so damn beautiful. I literally shed a tear. and that pic with him coming up behind Waspinator with that little "i'm gonna get inside you" smirk is a great kickback to Beast Wars but it make me think of Old Gregg(Mighty Boosh). Just a lil' bit creepy.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Mykltron » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:51 am

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I think it would look good if the thighs and shoulder parts were also transparent.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:16 am

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Mykltron wrote:I think it would look good if the thighs and shoulder parts were also transparent.


Not if you want the toy to last at all. Those are the ball socket joints.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

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If I had unlimited funds I would snag it in a heartbeat, even for the $89.99. Such a nice figure that would look great on my shelf, but alas it's a mega pass since it is an exclusive.

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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby First-Aid » Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:54 pm

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That is just insanely awesome....too bad it's like $5 trillion dollars...
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Mkall » Wed Dec 02, 2009 2:04 pm

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Rated X wrote:Nice...put it out in the USA for $12.99. It's only plastic...not gold.

No, it's TRANSPARENT plastic, which equates to gold in the eyes of many of us :P
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Rated X » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:37 pm

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Rated X wrote:Nice...put it out in the USA for $12.99. It's only plastic...not gold.

No, it's TRANSPARENT plastic, which equates to gold in the eyes of many of us :P


I see your point my friend. I just dont count figures as being the same calibur as antiques which have a genuine reason to be in limited quantity. Creating a mold and holding it hostage is just dishonorble. It was greed that saw the demise of baseball cards and comic books after their value skyrocketed in the late 1980's. Now those books and cards you "had to have" for 100 bucks are selling for 10 bucks on e-bay. In 10 years, Ghost Starscream, Thrust, and Dirge will join them.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Blurrz » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:44 pm

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There isn't a depreciation of the value of plastic. Baseball Cards - you can understand because regardless of the run, well, c'mon, it's Baseball Cards. I'm not trying to knack on the hobby of card collecting, I did it myself with Hockey cards a few years back, I just don't see a titanic collapse in that hobby with Transformers. Especially not a fan favourite like the seekers.

Transformers don't depreciate as time goes on. The prices increase because the toy becomes rarer. This will NOT be $10 in the future. Why? It's limited. It's from Takara. People in North America could try their dardest to somehow find it in America, and it just won't happen. Look at G1! While some figures have been reduced with cost, that has happened because they were mass released. The ones that haven't, well they're the figures that everyone generally likes.

Even if Hasbro, several years down the lines releases Thrust and Dirge and etc, the value of the Henkei versions of 2008 will still be of value. There's just the appreciation of something being limited. It's the way collectors' treasure toys.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Mkall » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:45 pm

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Rated X wrote:
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Rated X wrote:Nice...put it out in the USA for $12.99. It's only plastic...not gold.

No, it's TRANSPARENT plastic, which equates to gold in the eyes of many of us :P


I see your point my friend. I just dont count figures as being the same calibur as antiques which have a genuine reason to be in limited quantity. Creating a mold and holding it hostage is just dishonorble. It was greed that saw the demise of baseball cards and comic books after their value skyrocketed in the late 1980's. Now those books and cards you "had to have" for 100 bucks are selling for 10 bucks on e-bay. In 10 years, Ghost Starscream, Thrust, and Dirge will join them.

Maybe, maybe not. We will have to wait and see.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:01 pm

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Rated X wrote:In 10 years, Ghost Starscream, Thrust, and Dirge will join them.


Victory Leo was a mass-produced toy from a major line in Japan in 1989.

Cost? Somewhere between $30-50.

In America, he didn't exist and no one cared.

Today, Victory Leo costs approximately $250-300 out of the box, more for quality vintage.

Victory Leo was a rare mass-produced nobody from Japan. Clear Starscream is a limited run, special edition of a popular character, from a popular line, of a popular mold.

$10 in 10 years?

Don't bet it.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Razorclaw0000 » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:05 pm

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Counterpunch wrote:
Rated X wrote:In 10 years, Ghost Starscream, Thrust, and Dirge will join them.


Victory Leo was a mass-produced toy from a major line in Japan in 1989.

Cost? Somewhere between $30-50.

In America, he didn't exist and no one cared.

Today, Victory Leo costs approximately $250-300 out of the box, more for quality vintage.

Victory Leo was a rare mass-produced nobody from Japan. Clear Starscream is a limited run, special edition of a popular character, from a popular line, of a popular mold.

$10 in 10 years?

Don't bet it.


It wouldn't surprise me to see Games of Deception selling for $2500 in 10 years, nor would $400 for Ghost Starscream.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Kibble » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:55 pm

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Rated X wrote:I see your point my friend. I just dont count figures as being the same calibur as antiques which have a genuine reason to be in limited quantity. Creating a mold and holding it hostage is just dishonorble. It was greed that saw the demise of baseball cards and comic books after their value skyrocketed in the late 1980's. Now those books and cards you "had to have" for 100 bucks are selling for 10 bucks on e-bay. In 10 years, Ghost Starscream, Thrust, and Dirge will join them.

I think there are a number of factors that play into that, one of which was that the comic or card was probably never legitimately “worth” $100, it just so happens in the late 80s your only means of acquiring said item was usually at that specialty store that inflated the price to make their profit as well as the supply seemingly much more limited as any schmo that had said item sitting around that he no longer cared about couldn’t easily just throw it up for sale for millions of people to see. Supply and demand. A lot of the stuff I collected once upon a time can be found on eBay now for a good deal cheaper than the price I paid for it back in the day at record conventions and the like...but those were about the only places I could find that sort of thing at the time and those were the prices the dealers were charging.

As well as there probably is less interest in card and comic collecting nowadays...I'm guessing a lot of that has been taken over by the internet. A card is basically a picture with stats, both can be found on the internet at the click of a button. So less people to buy more easily obtainable items = lower price.

Back to the point, I don't really think these limited edition figures will be available for peanuts 10 years for now. Maybe the movie figs because there are so many and so many people buy them and keep them MISB in hopes of them being valuable someday, but that's a whole ‘nother thing.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby El Duque » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:40 pm

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$10.00 in 10 years, not likely. I'll go ahead and pay full price now and enjoy him for the next 10 years.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Prime Evil » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:03 am

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Lets not forget the popularity of the character here for both Japanese markets and the domestic markets. He's an extremely popular figure, with a limited run, done in a clear plastic, that also has a reasonable reference to be clear in the first place...unlike clear Henkei Prime. (which I do want BTW)

Will his price go up, most definitely. Will it go up a lot? Who knows. But again, I'm not buying this guy for an investment. I'm buying him because I like the "off the beaten path" figure that he is. I don't see the US market doing something like this. I'd like to have a collection that separates me from a 10 year old's toy room, hence exclusives and other odd repaints and rareities that some of us like to collect.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Convotron » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:32 am

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Hmm, it's odd to think that a limited run Transformers figure would not go up in value in time when the trend shows that to be unlikely. My question is, has there been a limited run Transformers figure that hasn't appreciated in value after time?
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Prime Evil » Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:48 am

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Botcon 2005 Fallback is usually really cheap. Um TFCC Airrazor. Stuff like that hasn't really been going up. But I think that's because the club has a hard time getting a pulse on the fandom.
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Re: Toy Images of Gentei Ghost Starscream

Postby Convotron » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:38 pm

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Hehe, alright, there's two figures that haven't skyrocketed in value.
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