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News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:58 am

rpetras wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:
rpetras wrote:I pretty much assumed Stepper would show up, as he is one of the 2 obvious Jazz repaints.

I'm a bit surprised he'll be an exclusive though.

Who is the other? Dead End?

Either it's G2 Jazz, or SG Ricochet who has a color scheme based on G1 Artfire. Speaking of Artfire, where is he? I want them both as Classics!

I was thinking G2 Jazz.
I would not expect SG Ricochet to be anything other than a con exclusive.

You sure about Artfire? G1 Artfire was a white/red Inferno repaint. G2 Artfire was kinda close, but more like Cybertron Hotshot/Excellion I think.

Golden Lagoon Jazz was my thought, as there has been an e-Hobby exclusive of the G1 re-issue made previously.

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:24 am

Ik knew this the moment Jazz showed up. Why pass up a perfectly good repaint? So here's to hoping Hasbro Ricochets this thing.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:57 am

rpetras wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:
rpetras wrote:I pretty much assumed Stepper would show up, as he is one of the 2 obvious Jazz repaints.

I'm a bit surprised he'll be an exclusive though.

Who is the other? Dead End?

Either it's G2 Jazz, or SG Ricochet who has a color scheme based on G1 Artfire. Speaking of Artfire, where is he? I want them both as Classics!

I was thinking G2 Jazz.
I would not expect SG Ricochet to be anything other than a con exclusive.

You sure about Artfire? G1 Artfire was a white/red Inferno repaint. G2 Artfire was kinda close, but more like Cybertron Hotshot/Excellion I think.

There is no G2 Artfire. You're probably thinking Car Robot Artfire aka RiD Hot Shot who bears Steppers colors and intended name.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:30 pm

Finally an exclusive from Million Publishing that is an absolute MUST have!

I'm surprised this went under our radar like this for so long. Does anyone know anywhere that has a pre-order for this yet? I emailed Joel at BBTS to see when they would be listing it. I'll let you guys know when I hear back from him.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:39 pm

obvious, if somewhat niche repaint that's bloody fantastic!

News Credits: 335 · by **Down_Shift** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:44 pm

Maaaawn that thing is all kinds of awesome. I'll be getting two if I can afford it come pre-order.

News Credits: 7 · by **waaaaghlord** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:37 pm

I'll be putting in a preorder as soon as BBTS list it. It's been over a year since I had an order come in from them but there's quite a bit I'm after this summer. By the time I'm ready to ship my big and expensive PoL should translate into an awfully big box of awesome. :grin:

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:41 pm

Man I want this so hard. God, that's another 90 bucks that go poof.

News Credits: 3 · by **bvzxa** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:55 pm

Now we should get Inferno as Artfire....

News Credits: 1 · by **Janus Prime** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:00 pm

Hooo... so cool! Hasbro, Why didn´t you release this? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:09 pm

Janus Prime wrote:Hooo... so cool! Hasbro, Why didn´t you release this? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!

They still might. Stepper (as Ricochet) has been on their radar before. Like I mentioned, a store exclusive set of he and Artfire seems like a logical offering to make by them...

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:21 pm

We'll get this in the U.S. eventually, maybe as a store exclusive of our own... but, wow! That's a good lookin' toy.

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:30 pm

tigertracks 24 wrote:
Janus Prime wrote:Hooo... so cool! Hasbro, Why didn´t you release this? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!

They still might. Stepper (as Ricochet) has been on their radar before. Like I mentioned, a store exclusive set of he and Artfire seems like a logical offering to make by them...

This is why I didn't get why they didn't make Fracas for Scourge. They could have done a really awesome multi-pack for Artfire and Stepper/Ricochet with their respective Targetmaster partners. Or maybe Scourge will get a remold later down the road (keeps fingers crossed).

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:45 pm

Likely the original design included Fracas with Scourge, and some boss could have said, "Let's use 8mm pegs on that gun," which led to the trade off of axing articulation on the Targetmaster.

No matter what, the point of Fracas would make for a great Botcon panel question.

News Credits: 1082 · by **Tigertrack** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:50 pm

Seibertron wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:
Janus Prime wrote:Hooo... so cool! Hasbro, Why didn´t you release this? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!!

They still might. Stepper (as Ricochet) has been on their radar before. Like I mentioned, a store exclusive set of he and Artfire seems like a logical offering to make by them...

This is why I didn't get why they didn't make Fracas for Scourge. They could have done a really awesome multi-pack for Artfire and Stepper/Ricochet with their respective Targetmaster partners. Or maybe Scourge will get a remold later down the road (keeps fingers crossed).

They can always just throw one of the other PCC minicons in. I would like to see Leadfoot's partner, Pinpointer I think was his name, get used again before this whole thing goes away.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:50 pm

It Is Him wrote:Likely the original design included Fracas with Scourge, and some boss could have said, "Let's use 8mm pegs on that gun," which led to the trade off of axing articulation on the Targetmaster.

No matter what, the point of Fracas would make for a great Botcon panel question.

How much do you wanna bet they'll give an answer like:

"As Power Core Combiners was running alongside Generations, the decision was to keep the smaller partner aka Mini-Con gimmick limited to the former line to avoid confusion"

Or they'll just cite cost...

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:32 pm

That didn't even occur to me that Hasbro might have left out Fracas to avoid confusion with the PCC line.

But yeah, cost may have been the bigger issue.

News Credits: 609 · by **Razorclaw0000** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:36 pm

It Is Him wrote:That didn't even occur to me that Hasbro might have left out Fracas to avoid confusion with the PCC line.

But yeah, cost may have been the bigger issue.

I thought they said as much during the Designer's Panel at last year's BotCon? The gun does look reminiscent of a folded up Targetmaster, which was what they were going for.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:36 pm

**** you Million Publishing.

Take my money, but leave my pants alone!

Counterpunch wrote:I'm on this. All of Million's stuff has been top-tier so far.

Skids and Screech are garbage.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:48 pm

Razorclaw0000 wrote:
It Is Him wrote:That didn't even occur to me that Hasbro might have left out Fracas to avoid confusion with the PCC line.

But yeah, cost may have been the bigger issue.

I thought they said as much during the Designer's Panel at last year's BotCon? The gun does look reminiscent of a folded up Targetmaster, which was what they were going for.

They easily could have. That panel was seriously overwhelming, and I definitely missed the part where they said anything about the Targetmaster originally, or at least I willfully forgot about it.

by **Court Jester** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:00 pm

Again with the stickers?!

News Credits: 1 · by **Optimus1138** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:26 pm

This is so beautiful! I hope we get something similar from Hasbro.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:06 pm

Blurrz wrote:**** you Million Publishing.

Take my money, but leave my pants alone!

Counterpunch wrote:I'm on this. All of Million's stuff has been top-tier so far.

Skids and Screech are garbage.

Do you even collect G1?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:11 pm

Counterpunch wrote:
Blurrz wrote:**** you Million Publishing.

Take my money, but leave my pants alone!

Counterpunch wrote:I'm on this. All of Million's stuff has been top-tier so far.

Skids and Screech are garbage.

Do you even collect G1?

I think it's more of a matter of them homaging movie characters, and by popular opinion, two of the worst characters ever, even surpassing G1 Wheelie.

News Credits: 127 · by **Counterpunch** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:27 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Counterpunch wrote:
Blurrz wrote:**** you Million Publishing.

Take my money, but leave my pants alone!

Counterpunch wrote:I'm on this. All of Million's stuff has been top-tier so far.

Skids and Screech are garbage.

Do you even collect G1?

I think it's more of a matter of them homaging movie characters, and by popular opinion, two of the worst characters ever, even surpassing G1 Wheelie.