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by **NOS** » Mon May 20, 2013 12:44 pm

Yeah, I really don't understand that price range... I hope they reconsider because I could find a place for this as Armada Overload if that trailer remains at a more reasonable price, but 170? My checkbook just can't justify that with so much awesome from other, more credible 3rds out there with much nicer offerings.

by **hpfabe** » Mon May 20, 2013 12:51 pm

I don't think it justifies the price but, in fairness, this trailer also does a battle-station type thing, like Prime's G1 trailer. Maybe there are more features and accessories in here than we realize.

by **NTESHFT** » Mon May 20, 2013 12:55 pm

Too rich for my blood....

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon May 20, 2013 1:25 pm

$170 at BBTS?

Out!

News Credits: 8 · by **Forgotten** » Mon May 20, 2013 2:16 pm

Oooh, preorders. Haha, NO.

Give it FP comparable pricing or show me that half of the thing is die-cast with lights, sounds & awesome weapons.

News Credits: 2 · by **Sideswipe 00** » Mon May 20, 2013 5:04 pm

someone posted a pretty good size comparison on TFW so we can get a approximate size on him. here ya go

: Ultra Magnus armor Size Comparison

He is definitely not worth $170, i did a double take when i saw the price! I thought BBTS did a typo and accidentally added the 1 infront of $69.99 :lol:

But yeah....what are they thinking? :BANG_HEAD:

Website · by **Flux Convoy** » Mon May 20, 2013 5:50 pm

Naaaahhhahaha! That price is absolutely ridiculous. I was only mildly interested from the outset. Now, not at all.

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Mon May 20, 2013 7:27 pm

No! Bad Transformazing Toys. [-(

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Mon May 20, 2013 8:09 pm

That seems horridly overpriced to me. It looks like it's smaller than FP's City Commander, for around twice the money. Thank you, no.

News Credits: 6 · by **BeastProwl** » Tue May 21, 2013 11:12 pm

Look at the super robot mode's scale. Look at the trailer mode scale. Look at the Base Mode. Looks like we have another case like protector, upgrade AND Base Mode. Or maybe they'll pull a battle tanker and attach it all for a super super mode? Plus roller. Who knows what this thing does, but they may reveal it to be worth that price.
But I really doubt it...

News Credits: 1 · by **njb902** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:21 am

The problem I see is in the FoC figures themselves. The Optimus /Magnus mold just has such poor shoulder articulation I'm just really hesitant about it. Plus wow that price is a downer.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Thu May 23, 2013 4:48 am

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Thu May 23, 2013 6:42 am

You know what...no.
Even a "wait till we see it in colour" isnt worth waiting for.

Skinny arms.
"Roller" doesnt 'roll out' he falls out.
Price point way too high.

..and for that reason, Im out!

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Thu May 23, 2013 8:34 am

I think it looks amazing. But the price point is WAY too high. Especially with everything that's coming out.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Thu May 23, 2013 10:10 am

Looks good. but Arms are too skinny... and that head doesn't look like Ultra Magnus to me... is this suppose to be someone else now?

News Credits: 2 · by **Sideswipe 00** » Thu May 23, 2013 10:13 am

mooncake623 wrote:Looks good. but Arms are too skinny... and that head doesn't look like Ultra Magnus to me... is this suppose to be someone else now?

Its the OP version they are showing in robot mode and UM version in trailer mode.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Thu May 23, 2013 10:22 am

Sideswipe 00 wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:Looks good. but Arms are too skinny... and that head doesn't look like Ultra Magnus to me... is this suppose to be someone else now?

Its the OP version they are showing in robot mode and UM version in trailer mode.

ohhhh ok. Maybe I'll wait for a sale. still not paying 170 for an add on set. How is this 170 when Maketoys Paladin is 80 bucks?
I know exchange rates but knowing what you can get for 80 bucks I cannot justify this.

News Credits: 2 · by **Sideswipe 00** » Thu May 23, 2013 10:34 am

mooncake623 wrote:
Sideswipe 00 wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:Looks good. but Arms are too skinny... and that head doesn't look like Ultra Magnus to me... is this suppose to be someone else now?

Its the OP version they are showing in robot mode and UM version in trailer mode.

ohhhh ok. Maybe I'll wait for a sale. still not paying 170 for an add on set. How is this 170 when Maketoys Paladin is 80 bucks?
I know exchange rates but knowing what you can get for 80 bucks I cannot justify this.

some are saying it just could be their distributor. Like they want to sell it for $100 but then their distributor sells it to BBTS or TFSource etc for $130 to make some money, then BBTS needs to sell it at $170 to make some money as well. it sucks but it happens.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:15 am

Sideswipe 00 wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:
Sideswipe 00 wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:Looks good. but Arms are too skinny... and that head doesn't look like Ultra Magnus to me... is this suppose to be someone else now?

Its the OP version they are showing in robot mode and UM version in trailer mode.

ohhhh ok. Maybe I'll wait for a sale. still not paying 170 for an add on set. How is this 170 when Maketoys Paladin is 80 bucks?
I know exchange rates but knowing what you can get for 80 bucks I cannot justify this.

some are saying it just could be their distributor. Like they want to sell it for $100 but then their distributor sells it to BBTS or TFSource etc for $130 to make some money, then BBTS needs to sell it at $170 to make some money as well. it sucks but it happens.

Interesting. We'll see how this goes I guess.

by **necr0blivion** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:26 pm

Some good points in this discussion about reasoning out the "higher" prices for these two products. I'll reiterate that I feel we still don't know the full details of this product (even though we get a bit more info every few days), so price speculation may not be suitable yet.

However, the general consensus is that we're getting a product on par with previous trailer/armor sets at a much higher price (almost 2x the amount). Third Party is still a niche environment, but as others have stated there are simply too many competing products out there which offer a better experience for the price.

Since this won't be released until the Fall, I think there's still time for Transformazing to show off the ins and outs of the trailer and win people over. How many will actually bite remains an unknown. Final price, availability of other products, and the consumer's lunch money will give us the answer down the road.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Thu May 23, 2013 1:04 pm

I agree with you, necr0. The more I see, the more I do appreciate and like what I see. The price point is still going to be a major issue with me. If it was half, I'd be very, very temnpted. That may not be reasonable, based on all the features that are shown here already.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Thu May 23, 2013 1:04 pm

Certain distributor exclusivity also adds to the price. It might have been that they didn't shop it around being that it's their first try. I'm still hoping that the price would drop down to a more reasonable one - $100 or below.

News Credits: 2 · by **Sideswipe 00** » Thu May 23, 2013 1:17 pm

I do hope we get more and more details regarding it. Close ups of the head and other details. These are just prototype shots so we maybe get a lot better detailed figure come september. =]

by **necr0blivion** » Thu May 23, 2013 1:36 pm

daimchoc wrote:Certain distributor exclusivity also adds to the price. It might have been that they didn't shop it around being that it's their first try. I'm still hoping that the price would drop down to a more reasonable one - $100 or below.

Agree, I'd love to see that price point. And I know what you mean about exclusivity - BBTS had the two Battle Tanker remakes at $40 more than the original but I rationalized that I really wanted to have them. This may also encompass a more limited production run of those two sets but I don't have those facts at hand to verify.

I'm ready to let the market play out the price.