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Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:34 pm

I say fire 'em all!!! Throw all the unions into the Atlantic and let's get some decent movies made that aren't remakes!

Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:19 pm

Fair play to 'em, I say. Like Burn says, considering how much cash the directors and actors make off the movies, it's somewhat unfair that the people who actually gave them the movie in the first place get hardly anything.

And as he also said, there's no reason the extra time will result in a less rushed movie; while they're striking, they're not working - that's the point. This doesn't give them more time to do the script, it either gives them the same amount of time (with the deadline pushed back) or less time if they try to make the same deadline.

Here's hoping they get a deal they can agree upon.

News Credits: 198 · Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:05 pm

If this goes more than a couple of weeks, there's almost definitely going to be a release delay. I hope this is resolved soon.

However, I bet this lasts a couple of weeks... at a minimum. I see a mid to late summer 2009 release now. It'll be interesting to see what the effect of the strike is.

Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:30 pm

Hey,lets create script by ourselfs and sell it (or give as present) to M.Bey

News Credits: 226 · Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:57 pm

No no, they want a CREDIBLE script, not some half arsed fan wank which is what the majority of us would only be capable of producing.

Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:15 pm

I wouldn't mind if the strike holds back the script. The way I see it, if they try and rush the script then we would get a movie that would reflect that. I ant the movie to come out as much as the rest of us, but I also want a good script.

And those scriptwriters should get their fare share.

News Credits: 5 · Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:17 pm

I dont think that TF 2 will be out until mid fall or holidays 2009 cause of this strike and that it will be pushed up. Also GI Joe will also get pushed up cause they didnt finish writing the movie, well they did but they couldnt figure out which script to use so now that movie is also in jeopardy. Also is jeopardy is Dragonball Z-Live Action Movie, Justice League of America & The Green Latern. I think they should've used that one script that was leaked on here a while back for TF 2, I really enjoyed it plus it tied in really well with TF 1. I liked the idea that another energy similar to the Allspark was found underneath LA and now that they are 2 factions of Decepticons one Loyal to Megatron being led bye Soundwave and the Second one is Starscream and those loyal to him. Makes since since he left Earth's orbit at the end of TF 1, most likely back to cybetron to get reinforcements. Also cool about it was Ultramagnus and Arcee was in the script finally also. I am quiet curious on what Ultramagnus will be since Optimus is already a Truck. And I though it was pretty cool to have Rodimus as a spy in the Starcream camp. I think that Shockwave will be an Helicopter or some sorts similar to what Blackout was. As for Soundwave I would turn him into a Stealth Bomber similar to what he was in Transformers Cybertron. If they wanna put Grimlock in the next movie instead of making hime a Dino make hime a giant Construction vechicle.

News Credits: 1 · Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:55 pm

How can writing be unionized? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

News Credits: 21 · Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:13 am

i didnt read the whole artical just glaned through it 5 to 7 million just think i was starting to feel bad about these writers and to find out ones tformers got 5-7 million who know how much other writers got paid for doing other films shrek, pirates, spidey, batman, superman, and others id be happy with 5-7 million for writting a film id even do it 3 to 4 million if i was writer.

dont know what writers are bying there money but if some celeberitys spend there money on big and expensive things they would have alot more money instead they buy mansions, 5 to 10 cars big expensive cars bedrooms size of a tennis court think i can imagine how much money they would have left over if they just buy or built family house with 2 to 3 bedrooms and on car garage and only 1 to 2 cars only they may have 2 to 5 times more money left over after doing things that way.

my post has to do with things if poeple in hollywood didnt buy to many expensive things in life they have money left over after wards cant speak for the writers dont know what they buy with there pay checks

News Credits: 3 · Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:47 am

Brakethrough wrote:How can writing be unionized? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

The same way any other occupation gets unionised, I would think- a large group gives their backing to a small number of individuals, giving them the clout to stand up to bosses and represent their backers' interests. While strikes may be a pain in the ass (the recent postal strike in the UK has left our mail system with a colossal backlog that still isn't clear going into the Christmas rush), the alternative is giving workers no means of opposing bad ideas or unfair treatment by their superiors other than quitting. At least, that's how I see it.

It's not surprising that on a TF board the discussion of writers' pay has centered around the pay for the writers of the TF movie(s). I think it's worth remembering that thousands of writers are involved in this action from all over the western world, and we have no idea about most of their remuneration situation (if you'll pardon the rhyming). Not all writers get millions slung at them for hammering out scripts, and if our lack of awareness of them (as another member pointed out earlier, how many of us know who writes our favourite TV shows?) is reflected in their pay packets I suspect a lot of TV writers are getting a raw deal.

For me, if a strike means a longer wait for more giant robot mayhem, then that's a shame. However, with my minimal awareness of the situation I tend to come down on the side of the writers trying to get a fair shake until I learn more about the whole deal. I'm told that will change as I get older

-Nick

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:35 pm

damn it

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:09 pm

They would say us the names of the characters in the movie now¡
I won´t wait only minute more. >:(

Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:00 pm

How long will we have to wait this time!

News Credits: 1 · Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:44 pm

Roll_Out wrote:I freaking hate unions, all they do is complain. Babies.

You have got to be kidding right?
Have you ever been part of union labor?
Unions are the backbone of any major corporations employees.
So let's not have unions and let the big companies screw us over. Is that what you're saying?
I work for a major railroad here in the United States. I am a proud union member of our local 286. The union has done more for my job than the company I work for would like. Better hours, better working conditions, lower health care costs, job security...the list goes on.
You may want to get your facts straight before knocking down unions and their members.
Without unions large companies would walk all over their workers. With alot of the jobs here in the U.S. being taken away from american workers and being outsourced to foreign countries we need the unions now more than ever.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:29 pm

Send me what you got Bay, I will finish the rest of the script!! Geez

News Credits: 1 · Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:42 am

Heh, most of us would pay just to be able to write a script for the TF2 movie much less getting paid.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:56 am

ErrantTransformation wrote:Heh, most of us would pay just to be able to write a script for the TF2 movie much less getting paid.

Heck I'd do it for free!:grin:

Sky

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:18 am

Blozor wrote:If they're all anticipating this seemingly scheduled writer strike, why not make efforts on both sides to negotiate before the strike happens?

According to the news, the producers walked out of the meetings, not the writers. The writers were willing to stay and talk right up until the strike deadline and look for a solution. I lost any sympathy for the producers when they bailed before time was even up.

And why shouldn't the creative team behind television and movies get paid equitably for what they create? Because it inconveniences the super-rich producers and studios? Please. They're striking to get a share of the profits from their work being sold on the internet and through new distribution means like cell phones. The producers are taking all the profits from that while saying, "Oh gee, it's a new distribution system, we don't know if it's gonna last so we can't share this money with the writers."

Of course, that makes perfect sense. No one knows if the internet and cell phones are going to last. Whatever!

I don't like strikes either, but this time, the writers have my sympathy.

Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:38 am

Ravage XK wrote:I suppose that makes sense. I wonder if the unions at strike are only those in the US? If so, why not give the project to writers from another country? Im sure the UK comic writers/script writers would like to give it a go.

I may be naively convinced in the general goodness of humanity (after all in every quiz I end up as Optimus Prime, lol) but I don't think other screenwriters would touch this right now. Crossing a picket line is such a huge foul. I'm not a script or screen writer, but I am a published author, and I can tell you that it's a MUCH smaller world than you might think. What you do definitely comes back to bite you on the ass.

Besides, if they cross the picket line to rescue Hollywood and screw their fellow writers, I guarantee the US writers would do the same thing to them in a heartbeat when the positions reverse... and they're bound to reverse. These issues aren't going to go away and they're not exclusive to the US. Those UK (and other nationalities) screenwriters are going to want their share of the internet-and-cell-phone-sales pie too, and you can bet your powertrain they're watching what happens in this fight very, very closely.

News Credits: 1 · Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:47 am

Hopefully getting paid more means a much better script. And one that doesn't get the hacked and slashed treatment from producers or directors.

I'd have to agree with the rest. A strike means no further progress in the script up until the strike ends. Unless the scriptwriters were fanboys?

ILM is making concept designs right now according to the interview with IGN so at least we still have that.

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