A2A7H07H wrote:Ok, let's list the evidence. A few months ago a "treatment" for TF3 is released involving the Aerialbots, Time Travel and some heavy G1 references.
Recently we've had news about casting for Silverbolt, a CEO telling us TF3 will be more mythos rich, and today we hear that Prime and Bumblebee are to receive character model updates.
Everyone has of course denounced the treatment, as they did with the treatments of the prior two movies which incidentally turn out to be not that different to the "fake" treatments...
Uh huh....I direct you to this:
The script for the third film is not yet finished, but the ILM artists have been privy to important details. "There's an outline and most of the script is done," Farrar said.
Nowhere does it say anything about the leaked treatment. Nowhere does it say anything about an '80s feel and so on.
Just because the first film followed the treatment almost to the letter, and ROTF used small (emphasis on small) bits and pieces of ideas from the second treatment, does not mean this third movie will take this leak (if it's even legit) and make it golden truth.
The Sci-fi Wire article basically shoots holes in that theory.
syphonn wrote:Sounds like Prime may get a 'snub' nose cab. I'm starting to think maybe some of the backlash from fans is having an effect ... either that or they're just saying that to get us to see the third and final flick.
decepticonblitz77 wrote:maybe the makeover will include a voice. Ratchet should get his
it together and fix it already
Would be funny (not really) if he got all those upgrades but still no voice.
It doesn't sound at all like Prime's getting a snub nose cab. Nowhere, not once. Here you go:
The Industrial Light & Magic team is hard at work updating the robots in disguise for their third big screen adventure.
"Our two lead characters, Optimus and Bumblebee, needed to be updated for the next chapter in the Transformers series," said animation supervisor Scott Benza in an exclusive interview Sunday at the Visual Effects Society Awards in Century City, Calif., where he and visual effects supervisor Scott Farrar were nominees. "Bumblebee's matured a little bit, so I would just say look for subtle changes to his physique that have him look more mature."
Farrar suggested the changes to Prime would be of the easter-egg variety that only true fans would notice. "[Prime will have] little tiny things that maybe the average viewer isn't going to notice but probably the fanboys will," Farrar said. "You actually will run into pieces that are maybe always in the way, and wouldn't it be nice if that part wasn't there? Maybe you make a shift in the shoulder, in the chest or what have you. So it might be proportioning, but it also might be for usability, so [the animators]' task could be easier, too."
Updating/updated, subtle changes, "A little bit", "Little tiny things", Easter-eggs, a shift here or there. Basically, that means cleaner lines, less work to do (they've got this down to a science by now), but not once does any of that say "We're changing Optimus from the longnose Peterbuilt, and turning him into a snubnose Mack from the '80s."
That wouldn't be a subtle change, at all. Even the public would take notice and say "Oh, he looks different in this one."
Heck, for all we know, they might be updating the models so they can be put together more like today's Lego kits. Instead of having to scramble around to find all of the pieces, now it's a modular build. That's what this article is saying to me, that their process is easier due to changes they've made, not only to the character models, but in the process overall.
Redesigning Prime into a new robot mode would be a lot more work than an edit here or there.
Benza added that Prime's updates would be badass. "We always want the robots to look cooler than they did the last time, so he's going to look a little more heroic, I would say," Benza said.
Nowhere in there does it say "DRASTIC REDESIGN! WE'RE GONNA CHANGE WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE FROM HEAD TO TOE!" it says they're going to make SUBTLE changes with Easter-Eggs only old school fans would catch. Nowhere does it say that Prime is being completely revamped. Not once.
The article also said they're working on new robot designs for new characters. They didn't once say they were using those new designs for Bumblebee or Optimus, which is what they'd have to do in order for the posts in this thread to work.
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