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Deadput wrote:Although that depends if Mirage is still Dino or not which would also presume this isn't part of a reboot anyways
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I'm incredibly confused over how to feel about this. I'm excited because Bumblebee was good but I have a sense of dread that it's going to go back to how the bayformers style of movies and hearing classic character names attached to completely different alt-modes is adding to the bad feels.
Betenoire wrote:Deadput wrote:Although that depends if Mirage is still Dino or not which would also presume this isn't part of a reboot anyways
At some point during these -prequel/reboot/TF continuity hasn't mattered ever anyway, so whatever they are going to be called- they are going to have to have everyone but Bumblebee go back to space. So maybe a line that Mirage is returning to his home planet at the end of the film?
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
cruizerdave wrote:Well, at least they are consistent with just assigning names to characters at random.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
cruizerdave wrote:Now I'm afraid we're headed back to the "throw everything on the screen all at once" style of film making.
Deadput wrote:Although by this logic it means that Optimus and Arcee would have to leave Earth at some point, although in Arcee's case maybe she stayed on Earth as well since the Xantium crew were not mentioned by name outside of the Wreckers specifically and "second wave of Autobots".
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:I mean...this is coming from Lorenzo
A guy who is known to lie from time to time about the details around the films or just talks like he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Funny enough he's the only one who is saying it's a full on prequel, the director of the film itself is more so saying that the film is it's own thing. (But that was more so about standing on it's own as a film rather then continuity)
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:
Regardless I mean, let's say Dino from DOTM and Mirage in ROTB are the same guy, DOTM never explains where the guy even comes from since he's just with the Autobots at the start of the film same with Que and Brains (However for the Wreckers it's explained in film that they came to Earth with the ROTF crew which probably means they were kept off the field the whole time)
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I love G1, grew up with it, but honestly start making some new stuff already, or at least revisit stuff that hasn't been done to death in the last 10 years, which hopefully the Beast stuff in this film does.
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Betenoire wrote:I love G1, grew up with it, but honestly start making some new stuff already, or at least revisit stuff that hasn't been done to death in the last 10 years, which hopefully the Beast stuff in this film does.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Sounds like you already made up your mind to see it, and that's all Paramount cares about. Getting you to buy a movie ticket. I'm sure this movie will appeal to enough people who will see it to deem it at least a minor success, even if it most likely ends up being a POS.Nemesis Reformatted wrote:It's going to be real hard for them to bring me back to the live action movies after The Last Knight & Bumblebee. This new movie sounds like the worst of them all. I won't judge it until I see it but so far it doesn't sound appealing to me at all.
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:It's going to be real hard for them to bring me back to the live action movies after The Last Knight & Bumblebee. This new movie sounds like the worst of them all. I won't judge it until I see it but so far it doesn't sound appealing to me at all.
Abominus is my favorite combiner so that alone should give you a pretty good idea of how I feel.![]()
And Mirage is Jazz. Why? Just why? It makes no sense. Just reboot the entire franchise & call the Porsche JAZZ. It's really not that difficult. This series would be super easy to reboot because none of the movies had any continuity anyway.
Rodimus Prime wrote:As for this "Mirage" having Jazz's alt mode and maybe personality, with what's been said and who the director is, I wouldn't be surprised if even Optimus had 07 Jazz's personality.
Barricade.it wrote:TF7 is set in the Nineties: in TF2007, Jazz is shown to come from space so in the 90s He couldn't be on Earth already. They're trying to give a conitnuity (which is impossible, I tihink)
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
I didn't say it was fact, I was simply speculating. I have no faith whatsoever in this new movie, whatever tiny hope I had for this version of the franchise died with the Bumblebee movie.Deadput wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:As for this "Mirage" having Jazz's alt mode and maybe personality, with what's been said and who the director is, I wouldn't be surprised if even Optimus had 07 Jazz's personality.
Mirage was described as a shapeshifter who would take on multiple alt modes and has a rogue personality similar to Crosshairs from AOE.
Because boy that sounds just like good ol Jazz the hip hop loving and loyal Autobot which even at least the 2007 tried to invoke with what moments he had.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't say it was fact, I was simply speculating. I have no faith whatsoever in this new movie, whatever tiny hope I had for this version of the franchise died with the Bumblebee movie.Deadput wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:As for this "Mirage" having Jazz's alt mode and maybe personality, with what's been said and who the director is, I wouldn't be surprised if even Optimus had 07 Jazz's personality.
Mirage was described as a shapeshifter who would take on multiple alt modes and has a rogue personality similar to Crosshairs from AOE.
Because boy that sounds just like good ol Jazz the hip hop loving and loyal Autobot which even at least the 2007 tried to invoke with what moments he had.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I didn't say it was fact, I was simply speculating. I have no faith whatsoever in this new movie, whatever tiny hope I had for this version of the franchise died with the Bumblebee movie.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
People tend to think of Transformers in similar rules to Marvel/DC comic characters where most of the time it's one big continuity until a reboot with characters almost never changing their looks significantly, Transformers has never really ran on those rules because they end their series within 3 years besides I guess IDW comics before the reboot which ran a really long time. Heck I think part of the decline with Marvel/DC these days is due to how stagnant the characters and writing is.Tuned Agent wrote:I've never understood how uptight fans get about the specific vehicle mode of characters in a franchise that's entire shtick is that it's characters can change forms at a whim, and can easily scan a new alt mode do better disguise themselves in a given environment. Are these characters so shallow that a different car mode or a different color scheme completely changes them, relegating them to just a "name slap"?
I mean, they often are, but that's another subject entirely.
Tuned Agent wrote:
If anything, I'd rather an alt mode say something about the character it belongs to, like how a luxury sports car like a Porsche makes far, far more sense for a high-society character like G1 Mirage than an F1 race car ever did.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Mirage being a Porche here doesn't suddenly mean that Jazz as a Porche can't show up in a future movie which is also presuming Jazz isn't in this movie in the first place.
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