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News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:42 am

mooncake623 wrote:Looks fine, like any other Movie prime. what are people bitching about? Don't like the chrome? wait for a non first edition version?

I personally don't mind the chrome; I think the main complaint has to do with it appearing like a simplified shell-former or the robot body not utilizing any of the cab parts in bot mode.

News Credits: 2 · by **paul053** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:53 am

megatronus wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:Looks fine, like any other Movie prime. what are people bitching about? Don't like the chrome? wait for a non first edition version?

I personally don't mind the chrome; I think the main complaint has to do with it appearing like a simplified shell-former or the robot body not utilizing any of the cab parts in bot mode.

That's more like the CGI design issue. They shouldn't design that way so toy designers have no idea where to put them but the back.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:59 am

The chrome is one of the few things (along with the alt mode) that I actually like about this figure. It's the rest that sucks. It's not even a shell-former. It's a robot wearing a truck.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:08 am

GuyIncognito wrote:The chrome is one of the few things (along with the alt mode) that I actually like about this figure. It's the rest that sucks. It's not even a shell-former. It's a robot wearing a truck.

I must have missed pictures of the back of the toy.

megatronus wrote:I personally don't mind the chrome; I think the main complaint has to do with it appearing like a simplified shell-former or the robot body not utilizing any of the cab parts in bot mode.

I don't care how much Collectors don't like the fact that Hasbro are "oversimplifying" these Movie toys. I hope they sell Millions of these toys so Hasbro can bring us awesome high quality generations toys like what the first Movie did for the Animated toys.

News Credits: 62 · by **#Sideways#** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:10 am

I'd be fine if it were a Voyager or a Deluxe... But a flipping Leader Size shellformer that looks like a brick that pooped the Terminator from Terminator 2? Unacceptable. It's just horrendous!

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:14 am

*looks at comparison photos* Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:22 am

Looks fine to me. He's even bigger that ROTF Optimus.

News Credits: 1 · by **Spleenzorio** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:28 am

SlyTF1 wrote:Looks fine to me. He's even bigger that ROTF Optimus.

This is one of those instances where bigger isn't always better.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:30 am

If bigger is better, then this is clearly the BEST Optimus Prime ever made:

by **EagleTron** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:36 am

That New Optimus is Huge. I'm surprised by his size. Them other previous pics of him had him looking like a deluxe.
And the in-hand pics make him look much much better than before. Maybe there is something to look foward to this AOE transformers toy line.

News Credits: 15 · by **PrymeStriker** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:40 am

I'm excited for this. At least he looks better than Whirl. :roll:

The chrome everywhere's a little annoying, so I'll wait for the retail release.

And I told you all that bitch could articulate somethin' fierce. :KREMZEEK:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:54 am

Lookin' good, good-lookin'!

News Credits: 3597 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:14 pm

You guys hatin' on this are funny. I can't wait to get mine next week!

News Credits: 1 · by **Flakmaster** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:25 pm

Hmm, the arm proportioning isn't as bad in these in-hand pictures.

In the end, it looks much nicer than I expected, but more as a generic robot knight, not as a transforming Optimus Prime; Leader ROTF will always be my favorite for balance between a playable figure and a transformer that looks great both as a 'bot and vehicle.

by **noctorro** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:29 pm

Seibertron wrote:You guys hatin' on this are funny. I can't wait to get mine next week!

I second that, don't know where all the hate is coming from.

You want complicated TF's, go buy ROTF Leader Prime, or HFTD Battle Blades Prime.

You want more G1 likeness, go buy Masterpiece or Generations.

I for one welcome simplified transformations and hold back on the shelf-former claim untill I have seen a good review or have the toy myself.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:33 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:I'm excited for this. At least he looks better than Whirl.

The chrome everywhere's a little annoying, so I'll wait for the retail release.

And I told you all that bitch could articulate somethin' fierce.

That's a nice pose that is.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:35 pm

This looks pretty good actually. It looks much closer to the design we've been shown than TF 07 LC Prime did, and everyone loved that toy, some even claimed it was the closest to a Masterpiece Movie Prime we would get.
So for the first Leader Class retail quality figure it's not bad. But apparently this is aimed at us collectors, and this is where the figure is hurt. Because it's lacking in the very things we collectors crave.
If this had a better pain job and wouldn't feature as much random chrome, I would say it would look pretty incredible.

by **EagleTron** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:38 pm

What is the retail price of the regular edition of this Optimus?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:43 pm

EagleTron wrote:What is the retail price of the regular edition of this Optimus?

$44.96 according to Walmart.com.

News Credits: 3 · by **Manterax Prime** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:58 pm

AOE FE Prime is looking AWESOME

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:35 pm

putting them side by side was probably the worst thing anyone could've done, its just show how crappy this prime is. And just remember the main release is going to be worse cause there wont be any chrome just cheap looking plastic. And for all of you saying "i hope these sell well cause then we'll get better gerenations figures" you obviously dont have a clue how hasbro works, you really think they are going to pass the wealth onto us? When has hasbro ever given us something for nothing? Generations were the first ones to jump to $15 then when the plastic quality & size dropped the price stayed the same. If these sell well then they are going to think "oh this is what everyone wants" & keep making figures like this then its just going to get worse. All you need to do is look at the last 3 main lines of figures to see this trend already happening. The trick is for these not to sell so hasbro has to rethink things again.

by **VioMeTriX** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:53 pm

Megatron Wolf wrote:putting them side by side was probably the worst thing anyone could've done, its just show how crappy this prime is. And just remember the main release is going to be worse cause there wont be any chrome just cheap looking plastic. And for all of you saying "i hope these sell well cause then we'll get better gerenations figures" you obviously dont have a clue how hasbro works, you really think they are going to pass the wealth onto us? When has hasbro ever given us something for nothing? Generations were the first ones to jump to $15 then when the plastic quality & size dropped the price stayed the same. If these sell well then they are going to think "oh this is what everyone wants" & keep making figures like this then its just going to get worse. All you need to do is look at the last 3 main lines of figures to see this trend already happening. The trick is for these not to sell so hasbro has to rethink things again.

you speak wise words...

News Credits: 6 · by **Jones** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:58 pm

noctorro wrote:
Seibertron wrote:You guys hatin' on this are funny. I can't wait to get mine next week!

I second that, don't know where all the hate is coming from.

You like it, and that's awesome. Some of us don't, and that's awesome too. The vast majority of the objections to this stem from the fact that it appears to be a massive step backward in Leader-class figures (generally the largest and most expensive) in the Transformation department, which is arguably just as important as any visual aspects.

noctorro wrote:You want complicated TF's, go buy ROTF Leader Prime, or HFTD Battle Blades Prime.

Go price those out on eBay right now (the only place most would ever be able to find them) and tell me if that's a reasonable statement to make on this topic.

noctorro wrote:You want more G1 likeness, go buy Masterpiece or Generations.

We do. Masterpiece and Generations have been releasing fantastic figures of great quality, transformation, and screen-accuracy lately. Why can't movie lines deliver the same?

Why can't we expect the same balance of quality, accurate appearances, and transformation fun from movie figures that we've been getting from other lines? It need not be one-or-the-other.

by **noctorro** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:07 pm

Very true Jones.

But to be honest, ROTF figures were out of balance as well.

We don't have to go back to level Cybertron/Galaxy Force figures.
I think the current Generations line and FOC line are a good mix between transformation complexity and overall design.

We've only seen like two primes. This being the better one, the other is also not for me.

I'm especially curious about the new faces, they look more human like in the G1 cartoon. No more bug faces I think.

News Credits: 6 · by **Jones** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:15 pm

noctorro wrote:Very true Jones.

But to be honest, ROTF figures were out of balance as well.

No argument there. 500-step transformations aren't going to endear these toys to the parents that will be shelling out cash for them.

noctorro wrote:I think the current Generations line and FOC line are a good mix between transformation complexity and overall design.

Nailed it. It seems like the Generations team and the AoE line are working in completely isolated silos. They hit homeruns with figures like Voyager Springer and Deluxe Orion Pax with vehicle modes that look great, robot modes with almost no kibble at all, and really fun transformations. Much like you, I will reserve my final judgement until in-hand video reviews exist, but right now I am more than skeptical that this figure in particular will turn out to be worth getting.

noctorro wrote:I'm especially curious about the new faces, they look more human like in the G1 cartoon. No more bug faces I think.

Agreed. This is something they should have done from movie #1. Prime had a great face from the start, but most of the others were seriously lacking any kind of homage to the beloved characters of the franchise.