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I was actually thinking 2025 was going to be a very light year for me based on all the early rumors I had heard, I was pleasantly surprised by this reveal and a bit overwhelmed at the same time because with the addition of Aerialbots in the same year as Constructicons certainly tugs at the purse strings. Not to mention any other unknown additions I might want later on in the year.

Since I'm not into the thirteen Primes as much as others I'll probably cherry pick those, so far I'm liking Solus Prime but no interest in Prima Prime aesthetic/design wise. I also don't really have a place for all thirteen or I might get them all just to set up a special display of them. Though since I have absolutely zero interest in Star Optimus especially for that price, there's no point in trying to dedicate a space for them all.

After seeing this I'm now worried about just how much I'll be spending! lol

Glyph wrote:Finally, a reminder of the release calendar for the coming year:

Missing the CC Silverbolt, Pulse says he's coming in November which can't possibly be true, that has to be a worst case estimate unless he and the SS86 Constructicon set are swapping release timeframes (usually main line is summer and CC86 is fall).

-Kanrabat- wrote:As for the Hotrod that come with Startimus, I bet it will be a modern Core Class.

He should be a Micromaster like the original, but he does look a little big in pictures despite still being called a Micromaster.



Emerje

Damn, the Amazon Pre-orders for Star and Red alert aren't shipping outside the US. That's a first. Never had this issue before.

Guess I'll have to find other means of securing them.

The Sonic 2 pack is up on Target (exclusive) for $60, but they're doing a $10 off $50 deal right now so he's really $50 this week.

https://www.target.com/p/transformers-s ... nk=sametab

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Glyph wrote:Finally, a reminder of the release calendar for the coming year:

Missing the CC Silverbolt, Pulse says he's coming in November which can't possibly be true, that has to be a worst case estimate unless he and the SS86 Constructicon set are swapping release timeframes (usually main line is summer and CC86 is fall).

-Kanrabat- wrote:As for the Hotrod that come with Startimus, I bet it will be a modern Core Class.

He should be a Micromaster like the original, but he does look a little big in pictures despite still being called a Micromaster.



Emerje

I think they did talk about the SS86 commander being in july when they revealed Devastator. Here's the video at the relevant timestamp:
https://youtu.be/70HJMtOWpk0?t=1790

BTW, speaking in regards to Star Convoy's "Tread Unit" (as Mark called it in the stream video), turns out we have ourselves another case of the early 90s online fandom passing around a mistranslation until it became widespread enough to be believed by everyone.

The name "Tread Unit" seems to have been born out of someone misinterpreting the Japanese text on the back of the original Star Convoy toy's box that referred to a "Trailer Unit", but which was talking about a slot where a Micro Trailer accessory would slide into the side of Star Convoy's base mode. According to both the original toy's instructions and the Return of Convoy story pages, what the English-speaking fandom has been calling a "Tread Unit" for all these decades is actually named "Micro Carrier".

Rtron wrote:I think they did talk about the SS86 commander being in july when they revealed Devastator. Here's the video at the relevant timestamp:
https://youtu.be/70HJMtOWpk0?t=1790

I watched the video after I posted that. What's really strange is the press release says Summer so I don't know why Pulse still says November.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Rtron wrote:I think they did talk about the SS86 commander being in july when they revealed Devastator. Here's the video at the relevant timestamp:
https://youtu.be/70HJMtOWpk0?t=1790

I watched the video after I posted that. What's really strange is the press release says Summer so I don't know why Pulse still says November.

Emerje

Down here in Florida, Summer lasts all the way into November.

Emerje wrote:

Rtron wrote:I think they did talk about the SS86 commander being in july when they revealed Devastator. Here's the video at the relevant timestamp:
https://youtu.be/70HJMtOWpk0?t=1790

I watched the video after I posted that. What's really strange is the press release says Summer so I don't know why Pulse still says November.

Emerje

Then you have Amazon claiming that Silverbolt and Slingshot are coming in April, the rest of the wave including Titan Star Prime coming in May with lonely old Wasp coming in November.

Amazon seems to be having a stroke today. It's claiming someone bought Star Prime, G2 Grimlock and Red Alert for me from my Private list (which I don't believe I have shared with any one).

It's very strange.

Anybody else have this happen?

Can't figure out of some kind soul somewhere bought them for me, and I will get them next year, or its Amazon getting terribly mixed up.


It's the first time this happens.

Overcracker, you've been good this year so Santa is rewarding you.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Overcracker, you've been good this year so Santa is rewarding you.

Ha!, Thanks. If only that were true.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I was actually thinking 2025 was going to be a very light year for me based on all the early rumors I had heard, I was pleasantly surprised by this reveal and a bit overwhelmed at the same time because with the addition of Aerialbots in the same year as Constructicons certainly tugs at the purse strings. Not to mention any other unknown additions I might want later on in the year.

Since I'm not into the thirteen Primes as much as others I'll probably cherry pick those, so far I'm liking Solus Prime but no interest in Prima Prime aesthetic/design wise. I also don't really have a place for all thirteen or I might get them all just to set up a special display of them. Though since I have absolutely zero interest in Star Optimus especially for that price, there's no point in trying to dedicate a space for them all.

After seeing this I'm now worried about just how much I'll be spending! lol

We've been on the same page quite a lot...
Towards the start of this year I was convinced I'd basically be on a collecting hiatus in 2025.
I was assuming one of the original G1 deluxe Insecticons would get an update, one to two G1 minibots would be released, possibly another retool of Wreck-gar for a Junkion in SS86, then maybe an unexpected, surprise release of some kind such as a crossover figure.

Now I'm planning getting:
-SS86 Galvatron
-Legacy United Cosmos
-SS86 Megatron
-SS86 Target Exclusive Perceptor, Ramhorn, and Ratbat
-AotP Aerialbots
-SS86 Constructicons x2

I've also preordered AotP Megatronus (even though this is a 'maybe'), and will definitely get Insecticon Venom whenever/however he is released. I also have a feeling that Hastak may reel me in with the new Combaticons... I'm actually really glad those can't all be released this year.
Then, based on what we've seen, there are a couple other primes that could be appealing, and I'm also interested in seeing the exclusive Twintwist/Spinister 2-pk, as well as the Selects G2 Snarl and Slag 2-pk.

I know for some that list above seems short and maybe even minimal.
But considering I thought I'd be buying 5 figures at the most for the whole year, with maybe 1-2 being voyager class... I'll be dropping 5 times that amount, and that doesn't include anything on my 'maybe' list, or any unexpected, surprise purchases.

All that to say, yeah, I'm also a bit worried about how much I'll be spending. This is by no means a complaint... There's just a pretty substantial difference between spending $170-ish, and $820-$1k-ish.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Now I'm planning getting:
-SS86 Galvatron
-Legacy United Cosmos
-SS86 Megatron
-SS86 Target Exclusive Perceptor, Ramhorn, and Ratbat
-AotP Aerialbots
-SS86 Constructicons x2

SS86 Galvatron isn't one I care to rebuy, the Kingdom version is all I need despite the minor nitpicks.
I keep forgetting about SS86 Leader megs, I just really hope it delivers the first time out and it's not another three version later when it's "perfect". lol Namely a UM Prime thing in terms of G1 animation aesthetics or numerous other redos like Blaster. Though I know the name of the game is mold usage it its fullest.
I already went out of my way to Get the Previos Cosmos so I won't need this reissue.
SS86 Perceptor with cassettes is severely assaulting my goodwill, I mean why they they keep doing this... Me personally am only after Ramhorn as I already have Perceptor and no use for Ratbat, which means it's me almost impossible to sell off Perceptor to make it worth it after fees and shipping. And maybe it's better than getting yet another release of that non accurate Soundwave, but couldn't they have packed them in with a Bot that isn't so easy to acquire. Like Thrust? lol
So that one is definitely in the maybe category making the Galvatron and Cosmos the only two non buys.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I know for some that list above seems short and maybe even minimal.
But considering I thought I'd be buying 5 figures at the most for the whole year, with maybe 1-2 being voyager class... I'll be dropping 5 times that amount, and that doesn't include anything on my 'maybe' list, or any unexpected, surprise purchases.

All that to say, yeah, I'm also a bit worried about how much I'll be spending. This is by no means a complaint... There's just a pretty substantial difference between spending $170-ish, and $820-$1k-ish.

Yeah my list is rather small compared to most since I tend to keep it strictly G1 and only venture out for 1-2 other mediums if I like a design or character from it.

While I was curious if they would revisit the Aerialbots any time soon I wasn't anticipating getting two combiners in the same year! So now instead of six I'm now having to get eleven, five extra which carry along with it a hefty price tag for one. Certainly a significant increase from G1 era and a moderate increase from Combiner wars era. But along with that comes better engineering even if quality in materials has slipped a tad. Luckily for me there's no Titan to add to the list of wants or I'd be really fretting the budget.

There are still a few more I hope to see as I'd like the Minibots finished off fairly soon, top of the list for me would would be Powerglide. He's the one figure that's still way out of scale with the others. Seaspray is somewhat the same size as the new figures so can be overlooked for now, maybe even longer.

The 13 is not really something I'm going to buy into, except maybe Adaptus as he looks interesting. I already have a perfect Alpha Trion(after I took the wings off). Although this one may be even better and get me . Hmmm, maybe Quintus as well. Not holding my breath, but I still want a Geomotus figure. It's my #1 wish list figure at this point and just maybe they retool Adaptus into Geomotus. I can see the possibility in there. But that is from a couple blurry pics, possibly concepts that have changed(like Powermaster Optimus). I just really, really want a Geomotus. I tried making one out of Lego after watching a few videos of people making other characters. Not something I am capable of lol.

Slingshot- Definite buy, my fav and only Aerialbot I got in CW and now. I can see how some won't like this set-up similar to Menasor, but it looks awesome to me. Even added on to Silverbolt in jet mode its not horrible. Back of Slingshots feet are his weak spot though.

Wasp- Super sweet. I didn't buy Bee and was waiting on Wasp to gets this mould. Pre-beast mode Waspinator, awesome.

Titan Star Convoy looks amazing, I just don't need a giant Optimus. I have and love Super Megs, but I dont need Prime. What I do need is a G2 comic Yaniger style head for SS86 Optimus. As chunky as he is, it would look badass. I had, wrongly, assumed Hot Rod would just be the core figure from a bit ago, included or would just expect us to buy it. Cool that they did an actual micro-master Hot Rod.

G2 Grimlock looks awesome, but I don't need a repaint. What repaint I do really want is SS86 core class Wheelie in wild boy of Quintesson style as a stand alone figure. Sharkticon tooth necklace not necessary, but would be sweet.

EDIT: Oh, I also pre-ordered Cosmos, as I missed him last time. Very thankful for the redo.

Hero Alpha wrote:The 13 is not really something I'm going to buy into, except maybe Adaptus as he looks interesting.

There's no Adaptus toy.

Just occurred to me, what if the upcoming Voyager Flatline is a pretool for DJD Helex? If they lean more toward Flatline's movie design then they both have two sets of arms in exactly the same places. They've said they want to do more DJD after Tarn.




The two biggest issues is Flatline would have to be a G1-ified movie bot and Helex would be disappointing as a Voyager. I can't really think of any other reason they would justify an obscure character like Flatline for a Voyager.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

Hero Alpha wrote:The 13 is not really something I'm going to buy into, except maybe Adaptus as he looks interesting.

There's no Adaptus toy.

I meant Amalgamous, I get those two names mixed all the time. Maybe its information creep, or two timelines coming together.

I always found Armada Red Alert's design to be funny. He look like some kid wearing cardboard boxes as a costume.

Emerje wrote:The two biggest issues is Flatline would have to be a G1-ified movie bot and Helex would be disappointing as a Voyager. I can't really think of any other reason they would justify an obscure character like Flatline for a Voyager.

Emerje

My prediction/assumption is that it's because it's gonna be IDW/Earth Wars Flatline as a Red Alert retool, rather than the Bayverse incarnation, since he already has a hood chest, they're already doing more obscure comic characters as retools anyway (cough cough Javelin and Kaskade), and Red Alert doesn't really have an existing retool option otherwise.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:The two biggest issues is Flatline would have to be a G1-ified movie bot and Helex would be disappointing as a Voyager. I can't really think of any other reason they would justify an obscure character like Flatline for a Voyager.

Emerje

My prediction/assumption is that it's because it's gonna be IDW/Earth Wars Flatline as a Red Alert retool, rather than the Bayverse incarnation, since he already has a hood chest, they're already doing more obscure comic characters as retools anyway (cough cough Javelin and Kaskade), and Red Alert doesn't really have an existing retool option otherwise.

That's as possible as anything, though so far none of the Armada figure have been retooled, just repainted. I imagine we have an orange Red Alert coming. I wonder if there's a toy-style head on the mold, too.

Emerje

I hope its IDW Flatline. That was a good look. I bet no one will agree with me; but, I hope they reuse Superion's head for a future Computron, like CW did. It's a perfect looking Superion head, but after CW figures and show, Computron has a faceplate now for me. Also I am only buying Slingshot, and will buy the complete possible future Computron. So the heads being the same is my own selfish preference. Most of the time I am nearer on the scale to G1 Sunbow purist, but they changed my mind on this one.

Hero Alpha wrote:I hope its IDW Flatline. That was a good look. I bet no one will agree with me; but, I hope they reuse Superion's head for a future Computron, like CW did. It's a perfect looking Superion head, but after CW figures and show, Computron has a faceplate now for me. Also I am only buying Slingshot, and will buy the complete possible future Computron. So the heads being the same is my own selfish preference. Most of the time I am nearer on the scale to G1 Sunbow purist, but they changed my mind on this one.

Their being cheapskates and making the worst Transformers cartoon ever is what changed your mind?