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Sabrblade wrote:

Hero Alpha wrote:I hope its IDW Flatline. That was a good look. I bet no one will agree with me; but, I hope they reuse Superion's head for a future Computron, like CW did. It's a perfect looking Superion head, but after CW figures and show, Computron has a faceplate now for me. Also I am only buying Slingshot, and will buy the complete possible future Computron. So the heads being the same is my own selfish preference. Most of the time I am nearer on the scale to G1 Sunbow purist, but they changed my mind on this one.

Their being cheapskates and making the worst Transformers cartoon ever is what changed your mind?

Yep. I like the look.

Superion looks great, though I will need the inevitable 3rd party toy head. HATE the cartoon head.

- Grim

Till-all-R1 wrote:SS86 Galvatron isn't one I care to rebuy, the Kingdom version is all I need despite the minor nitpicks.
I keep forgetting about SS86 Leader megs, I just really hope it delivers the first time out and it's not another three version later when it's "perfect". lol Namely a UM Prime thing in terms of G1 animation aesthetics or numerous other redos like Blaster. Though I know the name of the game is mold usage it its fullest.
I already went out of my way to Get the Previos Cosmos so I won't need this reissue.
SS86 Perceptor with cassettes is severely assaulting my goodwill, I mean why they they keep doing this... Me personally am only after Ramhorn as I already have Perceptor and no use for Ratbat, which means it's me almost impossible to sell off Perceptor to make it worth it after fees and shipping. And maybe it's better than getting yet another release of that non accurate Soundwave, but couldn't they have packed them in with a Bot that isn't so easy to acquire. Like Thrust? lol
So that one is definitely in the maybe category making the Galvatron and Cosmos the only two non buys.

I just couldn't get past the color of Kingdom Galvatron, and I know this will be the final copy of him that I get.
Then with SS86 Megatron, I've probably hyped that up in my own mind too much. You're probably right; there may be a couple different versions before it's actually right... But who knows, will Hastak cut us a break this time?
My friend snagged me a copy of Velocitron Cosmos... And with what a cluster of a situation that was, I really feel like I should keep that copy sealed. The L.U. version will get opened for sure.
I understand that Ratbat, Ramhorn, and Perceptor were all in that scene of the movie, but yeah, I'm not excited about getting that whole set just for Ratbat. Since I held on to Steeljaw too long to return him, I suppose I may keep Ramhorn. And then it will be interesting to see if Perceptor has any changes in deco that make him even more movie accurate.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Yeah my list is rather small compared to most since I tend to keep it strictly G1 and only venture out for 1-2 other mediums if I like a design or character from it.

While I was curious if they would revisit the Aerialbots any time soon I wasn't anticipating getting two combiners in the same year! So now instead of six I'm now having to get eleven, five extra which carry along with it a hefty price tag for one. Certainly a significant increase from G1 era and a moderate increase from Combiner wars era. But along with that comes better engineering even if quality in materials has slipped a tad. Luckily for me there's no Titan to add to the list of wants or I'd be really fretting the budget.

There are still a few more I hope to see as I'd like the Minibots finished off fairly soon, top of the list for me would would be Powerglide. He's the one figure that's still way out of scale with the others. Seaspray is somewhat the same size as the new figures so can be overlooked for now, maybe even longer.

I was ready to skip Superion and the Aerialbots. But for me, that combined mode is really good. And just recently I saw a comparison shot (2 different photos) side by side, and even though my UW version is great, this new one is even better.
I'm not a huge fan of Powerglide, but I'd probably get him. And really, the same goes for Windcharger and Seaspray. I'm sure we'll get one if not a couple of those in '26. But I'm also thankful there's no Titan figure to add to my want list...
And back to combiners, my gut is telling me that in '26 we'll get a new Defensor with the rest of the Combaticons... Hastak will probably get me with those-- I was never completely happy with my CW Defensor, and my UW Bruticus had some QC issues that are annoying.
But yeah, don't go spending too much money at pop-up bars and on other presents for yourself in the next couple weeks... 2025 is going to be an expensive one for TF.

No one ever responded to my thoughts on all of these G1 releases coming sooner than later. Which is fine... I know my thought is speculative...

I'm just still very surprised that so many G1 figures, especially SS86 movie-related figures, are coming out this next year rather than in 2026.

And yes, I get it, Hastak could release a SS86 Grapple, Windcharger, Huffer, Wheeljack, Shockwave, Astrotrain, etc., etc., etc.
And there are a few other characters that could be made as well; specifically those related to the ranks/servants of the Quintessons.
But in the grand scheme, Megatron, Devastator, and even getting CC Optimus so soon... Those would've made for solid 40th anniversary of the '86 movie releases. I don't know that there are any characters left which legitimately equal these figures to put out in '26.

Which leads me to thinking some (not all) of the figures in the Legacy line flopped in terms of sales, and Hastak has gone back to the G1 well to try and recover some of those loses. This also goes back to my thoughts of updated rescue bots, and even updated Prime figures not being money-makers. Again, why would Detritus be in the main line and not an exclusive?? I get it, ER Hound was tied-up in an exclusive debacle. But it's difficult for me to believe that another, more known character, couldn't have been put into that slot.

Oh well... I'm just thinking/questioning out loud. I'm by no means actually frustrated or mad about this. Hell, I'm a high school teacher and I just started Christmas Break... I couldn't feel any better right now!

I don't think anything has flopped, or else they wouldn't be basing their line around entirely new figures (the primes). It's just that the 40th of the entire line is more relevant than that of the movie, specifically. They can always re-release the usual suspects to mark the occasion, which I think they're sure to do. We'll definitely see repacks of Commander Class Optimus and the upcoming Megatron at the very least in 2026.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Which leads me to thinking some (not all) of the figures in the Legacy line flopped in terms of sales,

Quite the contrary since Legacy United received an extension with an extra wave of Deluxes, Voyagers, and Leaders. A line running for longer than most with extra releases being added to it isn't a sign of flopping, but rather a sign of success.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Again, why would Detritus be in the main line and not an exclusive?? I get it, ER Hound was tied-up in an exclusive debacle. But it's difficult for me to believe that another, more known character, couldn't have been put into that slot.

It's probably because of one or two reasons.

1) Somebody on the Hasbro design team must have really liked Detritus and wanted him in the main line. Not so much liked him as a character but like the concept he represented: a Junkion mercenary who plays both sides and is loyal to neither. They even bothered to give him both an Autobobt and a Decepticon logo in his opposite modes to illustrate and play up his duplicitous nature.

Or:

2) Someone at Hasbro must have really wanted as many of the Junkion characters as possible available at mass retail last year, both the new ones with the disassembling gimmick and the established preexisting ones. That meant getting Wreck-Gar, Junkyard (labeled "Junkheap" for Trademark purposes), and Junkheap out in Studio Series 86 since they appeared in TFTM, and all of the non-TFTM ones in the main Legacy Evolution line, meaning Detritus would go in the latter since he wasn't in TFTM. Notice also that Detritus's wave is the only one that didn't have a new Junkion in it, so he would be the Junkion of his wave despite his not being a new/disassembling one.

For the Detritus thing, I bet the main reason is that Target really wanted Hound to be their exclusive. That's why Detritus went into the main line. However, when the exclusive deal fell appart, the train was already departed and it was too late to stop it.

That's my theory.

Sabrblade wrote:2) Someone at Hasbro must have really wanted as many of the Junkion characters as possible available at mass retail last year, both the new ones with the disassembling gimmick and the established preexisting ones. That meant getting Wreck-Gar, Junkyard (labeled "Junkheap" for Trademark purposes), and Junkheap out in Studio Series 86 since they appeared in TFTM, and all of the non-TFTM ones in the main Legacy Evolution line, meaning Detritus would go in the latter since he wasn't in TFTM. Notice also that Detritus's wave is the only one that didn't have a new Junkion in it, so he would be the Junkion of his wave despite his not being a new/disassembling one.

This for sure. It was the year of the Junkions and I'm pretty sure we knew he was coming to retail (via leaks) before we knew Target had canceled Hound.

Also, I'm not sure I really understand the argument about G1 figures in 2025. Here's the breakdown for G1 figures through Legacy, just the retail stuff, including repacks, no exclusives:

Legacy - 21 in 3 waves
Legacy Evolution - 25 in 4 waves (28 counting new Junkions, 30 counting Comic Universe Tarn and Bludgeon)
Legacy United - 12 in 5 waves (Counting Soundwave as 1)

Age of the Primes - 9 in 3 waves (not including the Primes since they're being inspired by a bunch of different sources)

(Apologies if my count is off.) Interesting that The first two lines had only 1 non-G1 Core figure (G2 Megatron), but United had no G1 Core figures.

Emerje

Yeah I'm pretty sure Detritus was just a perfect storm of Wave 4 always being majority retools/repaints, the overarching Junkion theme, and HasTak either wanting or needing to use the Earth Jeep tooling for a mainline figure and not just the exclusive. Even if that slot hadn't gone to Detritus specifically, the slot still would have been budgeted for a Detritus-level retool at best, repaint or repack at worst, and considering how many people already complained about Breakdown and Bombshell being retools I dunno that putting a more-known character in that slot would have gone over better.

Sabrblade wrote:Notice also that Detritus's wave is the only one that didn't have a new Junkion in it, so he would be the Junkion of his wave despite his not being a new/disassembling one.

The only wave without a new Deluxe Junkion, specifically, there was Voyager Trashmaster.

Legacy flopping as a line was never said.
But I most definitely stand by my opinion that some of these figures couldn't have sold well.
I'm sure Legacy as a line overall has done pretty well. But United's wave 5 means very, very little since it's all PR's and a repaint/retool.
That may as well be re-named, TF Legacy wave Sorry-these-figures-were-so-diffuclt-to-get-the-first-time. Aka wave 5.

Part of my point was that relative to the number of figures and waves, AotP has a lot of G1. Even with a few more G2 figures on the way, imo that's hardly "branching-out". This also wasn't at all a knock on the AotP line-- whether I get any of the 13 primes or not, the idea for this line is awesome... I very much appreciate that this isn't tied to some play gimmick.
But with this, the 13 Primes have an old, and relatively important part of TF lore. In fact I'm sure this facet of this franchise has been used, published, etc. way more than I know (and no, I'm not the most TF-educated collector). So no matter how these may be stylized in toy-form, none of these are new like the modular Junkions were new.
I suppose this line can be considered "branching-out"... But again, it's not the same as updating Rescue bots, TF Prime, or TF Animated.
Speaking to which, that's also part of my point-- look at how few R.B., Prime, and Animated figures are in the new waves... I know Wasp is a repaint/retool, I know nothing about Heatwave as a character, and I'm assuming that's also a repaint/retool. If either one of these Universes, or TF Prime's updated figures were selling so well, why aren't there more in this new mainline?
And again, it's speculation and opinion, but I wouldn't be shocked if sells dipped with Legacy wave 4 including less G1 characters.
Hastak is even cluing us in to future combiners with this year's release of Vortex. My gut tells me Defensor isn't too far behind... After Bruticus, we'll have 3 Decepticon combiners, so it'll be time to shift back to Autobots.


This morning I saw photos of Megatronus standing next to CC Optimus Prime (and another next to Galvatron)... Megatronus is larger than I thought, and now I'm more open to someone's (I forgot who, or I'd give them credit) proposal that Megatronus could be heavily retooled into the upcoming SS86 Megatron...
The engineering is already there for the tank mode. But I do mean a heavy retool... Because the new Megatron mold has repaint options of its own, I could see these two figures sharing very few parts, but having a very similar if not almost exact transformation sequence. Of course I wouldn't mind if Megs is all brand-new, and who knows, maybe Megatronus is one of the uber rare cases of a single-use mold...

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm just still very surprised that so many G1 figures, especially SS86 movie-related figures, are coming out this next year rather than in 2026.

I'm a little sad to see SS86 packaging go away, from a MIB perspective it would have been nice to have several of the Bots in that packaging. And though it was aimed at the Movie I feel it could have encapsulated characters that also appeared in in the show soon after.

That said, I'm not chomping at the bit for reissues of every singe Bot that came before it. Especially Soundwave and Astrotrain as I desperately want new versions.


I think the one that surprised me the most were the Aerialbots so soon, especially in the same year as another Combiner. I realize most TF collectors ten to get them all anyway so the addition of another five bots probably isn't that big a deal if they simply took the place of other bots they could have gone with that weren't. But with Combiners comes the drive to get them all whereas with single random bots one might pass on a few other characters.

I almost would have preferred a different Combiner such as Computron etc. so that I could pass on it rather easily. Having both Devestator and Superion two of my favorites as a kid means I can't just play they either or game, I want them both! lol

As for the G1 attention I'd have expected a stronger focus on the actual Movie stuff in two years rather than how it played out, they shot through everything already during the 40th of Transformers as a brand overall. One thing I'd be keen on in 2026 is the return of Unicron as maybe a Titan since they cannot reissue the HasLab. Before that I hope a couple minibots get updated like Powerglide and Swerve

Another triplechanger I'd like to see updated is Octane, he had an arc appearing with Sandstorm and we recently got that figure.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I'm a little sad to see SS86 packaging go away, from a MIB perspective it would have been nice to have several of the Bots in that packaging. And though it was aimed at the Movie I feel it could have encapsulated characters that also appeared in in the show soon after.

That said, I'm not chomping at the bit for reissues of every singe Bot that came before it. Especially Soundwave and Astrotrain as I desperately want new versions.

I'm only keeping my second set of the Dinobots sealed, but it would have been nice if the packaging would've been consistent all the way through. Which I know isn't realistic... Although it wouldn't have been impossible. I don't think it's going to happen, but IF Hastak was going to put every bot who was seen (even for a couple seconds) into SS86 packaging, there would be at least a few I'd probably skip. Although I really dislike metallic silver paint for face sculpts... I love the look of the Autobots from the 5-pack. I guess I'll say buying a few of those would really depend on when they're released compared to other figures I may want more.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I think the one that surprised me the most were the Aerialbots so soon, especially in the same year as another Combiner. I realize most TF collectors ten to get them all anyway so the addition of another five bots probably isn't that big a deal if they simply took the place of other bots they could have gone with that weren't. But with Combiners comes the drive to get them all whereas with single random bots one might pass on a few other characters.

I agree; although this was part of my original point, just with the Constructicons... It's no complaint by any means, but we're getting two Commander Class releases in the same year that are both G1... And not a complaint to get those 6 sooner, but I really would've been okay with waiting until '26 for the Constructicons... And not because it's the anniversary year of the movie. But as we've said, it's not exactly nothing to drop basically $200 on a set of 5 figures for a combiner... So add that to $220 price to get Devastator... That's a chunk of $$$ to spend on toys... And it'll be within what, 8-9 months? It's not like the Aerialbots ship in 3 weeks. And I'll stop saying it, but Devy in '26 would have been a cool nod to the movie anniversary.

Till-all-R1 wrote:I almost would have preferred a different Combiner such as Computron etc. so that I could pass on it rather easily. Having both Devestator and Superion two of my favorites as a kid means I can't just play they either or game, I want them both! lol

Having seen Superion, I'm ready to just give in to the idea that I'll get any of the new combiners... Although with the upgrade kits I have, Abominus and Computron are probably my favorite two from the CW/UW era...
Defensor was never one of my favorite combiners, but after Menasor, that's the weakest one from CW imo. I'm callin' it now; the Protectobots will start showing up before all of the Combaticons are released.

Till-all-R1 wrote:As for the G1 attention I'd have expected a stronger focus on the actual Movie stuff in two years rather than how it played out, they shot through everything already during the 40th of Transformers as a brand overall. One thing I'd be keen on in 2026 is the return of Unicron as maybe a Titan since they cannot reissue the HasLab. Before that I hope a couple minibots get updated like Powerglide and Swerve

Another triplechanger I'd like to see updated is Octane, he had an arc appearing with Sandstorm and we recently got that figure.

Exactly... That's my main point. There's truly nothing great or of any real significance from the movie to release now in '26...
But I like your idea of a Titan Unicron. That would be a highlight for sure. Although I still have a bit of hope for a SS86 Soundwave.
Tbh I thought we'd see Octane this next year... Which now seems like he should be a given in '26. Along with at least a couple more minibots.

All I can say about the theory on SS86 Megatron being a Megatronus retool is that it will all depend on scale to the CC Optimus Prime. I know Hasbro will shoot for equal height or as close as they can get.

Emerje wrote:Also, I'm not sure I really understand the argument about G1 figures in 2025. Here's the breakdown for G1 figures through Legacy, just the retail stuff, including repacks, no exclusives:

Legacy - 21 in 3 waves
Legacy Evolution - 25 in 4 waves (28 counting new Junkions, 30 counting Comic Universe Tarn and Bludgeon)
Legacy United - 12 in 5 waves (Counting Soundwave as 1)

Age of the Primes - 9 in 3 waves (not including the Primes since they're being inspired by a bunch of different sources)

(Apologies if my count is off.)

Got curious myself now, here's my count (assuming the box art looks we've seen so far for the rest of AoP are accurate):Is G1 still the majority of what's in the mainline? Always has been, but yeah, it is a lot more easy to notice when the prior line had 20 additional figures. For anything else to take that majority, there'd have to be a concentrated effort from HasTak on updating any one non-G1 cast primarily (or just skipping G1 completely), to the likes of which we haven't seen outside of...Studio Series pre-SS86, really (and even then that's only if don't count each movie separately). Even the big anniversary Beast Wars revival that was Kingdom was over 50% G1: I don't see these numbers and go "They're cutting back on non-G1 cuz it isn't selling", I see that and go "yeah that tracks for how HasTak has been doing this all along".

Sowndwave76 wrote:I know nothing about Heatwave as a character, and I'm assuming that's also a repaint/retool.

If the art we've been shown is accurate, he's a heavy retool of Legacy Bulkhead, yeah. He's also our third total Rescue Bot when one of the other two was already an exclusive repaint, that's way too early to be writing off that entire concept as "doesn't sell".

Sowndwave76 wrote:And again, it's speculation and opinion, but I wouldn't be shocked if sells dipped with Legacy wave 4 including less G1 characters.

I don't know if this is supposed to be addressing Evolution Wave 4 or United Wave 4 (since no-subtitle-Legacy was only 3 waves), but both of those Wave 4s were already half G1.

Legacy United had so many non-G1 characters in it because Hasbro wanted to give representation to as many Transformers series as possible in that line for the 40th anniversary.

G1 (in general): Gears, Quake, Cosmos, Ramjet, Sandstorm, Soundwave
G1 (toyline): Optimus Prime
G1 (cartoon): Origin Bumblebee
G1 (IDW1): Tarn
G1 (Japan): Metalhawk, Galaxy Shuttle, Overcharge
Generation 2: Breakdown, Laser Optimus Prime
Beast Wars: Sikverbolt, Tigerhawk
Beast Wars Second: Tasmania Kid
Beast Wars Neo: Magmatron
Beast Machines: Cheetor
Robots in Disguise (2001): Side Burn
Armada: Wheeljack, Galvatron, Tidal Wave
Energon: Megatron, Galvatron
Cybertron: Hot Shot, Starscream, Vector Prime
Animated: Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, Motormaster
Prime: Thundertron
Rescue Bots: Chase
Robots in Disguise (2015): Strongarm
Cyberverse: Windblade, Chromia, Slipstream

And that's just the mass retail line. The retail exclusives are even more diverse in their series representation.


It's the same thing that Hasbro has done for such brand anniversary years in the past as 2009 (the 25th anniversary) and 2014 (the 30th anniversary), with the both years having toys characters from all across the brand's history in the Universe (2008-2009) line and the Generations Thrilling 30 line. And after each of these lines, they always went back to being less diverse. Not because of any failure on behalf of the non-G1 character sales, but because it's simply what Hasbro does whenever the brand anniversary is over. When the celebration ends, they move on. The fact that Age of the Primes will still have characters from all across the brand after Legacy United ends is unusual and breaking the tradition.

Sabrblade wrote:It's the same thing that Hasbro has done for such brand anniversary years in the past as 2009 (the 25th anniversary) and 2014 (the 30th anniversary), with the both years having toys characters from all across the brand's history in the Universe (2008-2009) line and the Generations Thrilling 30 line. And after each of these lines, they always went back to being less diverse. Not because of any failure on behalf of the non-G1 character sales, but because it's simply what Hasbro does whenever the brand anniversary is over. When the celebration ends, they move on. The fact that Age of the Primes will still have characters from all across the brand after Legacy United ends is unusual and breaking the tradition.

I would go even farther and say that its because non-G1 sold well, as the reason this tradition is being broken.

I think I'll keep UW Superion and pick up Age of the Primes Aerialbots keeping them staged as individual robots just like my plans for the Constructicons...'nuff said!

Back on December 5, the BotCon Facebook made the following post in light of the reveal of AOTP Solus Prime's packaging art:

The next big thing coming to store shelves by way of Hasbro are none other than the Thirteen Primes! Within the Transformers mythos, these individuals have been kept largely to obscure fiction and brief appearances, maintaining a veil of mystery tight around them. This past summer, however, the Thirteen were revealed to the world. In a big way! Alpha Trion, Prima, Megatronus, Micronus, Solus Prime, and the whole crew showed up in the Transformers One movie in theaters (and now streaming), making their grand introduction to Transformers enthusiasts outside the hardest of hardcore fans.

We mentioned "obscure fiction", well, we're proud to say some of those pages were from BotCon and the Transformers Collectors Club! Getting to write (and release the first toy!) Nexus Prime and use him as the entry point to the realm of the Thirteen, BotCon cracked the door slightly to let fans see inside what and who these Primes were. The door was then propped open further by Transformers greats like Aaron Archer and Simon Furman, who named and fleshed out the backstories for all Thirteen members of the first Primes to step foot on Cybertron.

Packaging artwork for Solus Prime and Prima were just today posted online in relation to the upcoming Cybertron Con convention in China. Fans are clambering to see how these Primes will be translated into plastic... the majority for the first time as a full transforming action figure.

We wanted to briefly take a look back to the time that BotCon and the TCC had considered creating their own Solus Prime action figure, and the path taken from initial concept to the final proposal made to Hasbro. Nothing came from this endeavor, but it's fun to see the evolution from limited exclusive concept to fully dedicated retail product.

What are your thoughts on what has been revealed for the 2025 Age Of The Prime's toyline? What other Primes are you looking forward to see the most?

Of the four different concepts shown above, the first one has been seen previously, first shown off at a panel held back at RoboCon 2018, while the latter three have never been shown until this Facebook post.

These Solus Prime concepts were from a rejected proposal for a 2017 Figure Subscription Service featuring all Primes, which would have also featured Alchemist Prime/Maccadam from Reveal the Shield Perceptor, Liege Maximo from Generations Skullgrin (the Straxus/Darkmount retool), the original unreleased blue deco of Generation 2 Combat Hero Optimus Prime (the KB Toys exclusive RID 2001 Destructicon Scourge use of the mold back in 2003 would have potentially allowed for use of that mold), SG Rodimus Prime from Generations Thrilling 30 Springer, and I can't remember what the others from this specific set might have been (the 2017 FSS had a lot of proposals before the final one we got). Hasbro rejected this proposal because they already had the Power of the Primes line in the works at the time.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I think I'll keep UW Superion and pick up Age of the Primes Aerialbots keeping them staged as individual robots just like my plans for the Constructicons...'nuff said!

IMO, individually the UW Aerialbots look better, but AOP Superion looks better combined. So if I do get the new set, I'll keep the UW guys separate.

I really like the purple Windblade version of Solus above. I'd prefer a smaller hammer like in the Aligned art, but I get that the Prime cartoon version was huge.

Emerje

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I think I'll keep UW Superion and pick up Age of the Primes Aerialbots keeping them staged as individual robots just like my plans for the Constructicons...'nuff said!

IMO, individually the UW Aerialbots look better, but AOP Superion looks better combined. So if I do get the new set, I'll keep the UW guys separate.

From what I've seen I mostly agree with this... Although I think the new Silverbolt looks great overall. I also thought UW Skydive's shoulders were oddly wide, so maybe his new figure will be an improvement.
I really dislike when figures have long heel platforms sticking out of the backs of their feet, and that's the case for both AotP Silverbolt and Slingshot. But I'm only getting the new set for the combined form anyway.
Right now I don't like the idea of selling my UW Superion... But assuming I end up getting the new Bruticus, both of those UW sets will probably be sold sooner than later.

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Is Spinister new? If not, does anyone remember the thing we were doing wrong with the transformation that was making the legs difficult? I think it had to do with the hips.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is Spinister new? If not, does anyone remember the thing we were doing wrong with the transformation that was making the legs difficult? I think it had to do with the hips.

Same mold and you are in luck as I just transformed him last week, When going from bot to copter mode, the leg that becomes the back end of the copter need to have its hip rotated 180 degrees so it is upside-down before tabbing it into the chest/top of the copter for everything to line up correctly.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Is Spinister new? If not, does anyone remember the thing we were doing wrong with the transformation that was making the legs difficult? I think it had to do with the hips.

Same mold and you are in luck as I just transformed him last week, When going from bot to copter mode, the leg that becomes the back end of the copter need to have its hip rotated 180 degrees so it is upside-down before tabbing it into the chest/top of the copter for everything to line up correctly.

That sounds right. If I remember the instructions weren't clear and people were rotating the legs at the thigh swivel or something like that.