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“That was probably the most hotly contested thing, simply because: ‘Wow …. um, and the Beetle can go fast? Ooookay,’” di Bonaventura says. “But I’ve screened [a rough cut] three times, and there has not been a single comment from the audience that they didn’t like the fact that we made it the Beetle. The warmth of it certainly helps us, but also, the sheer freshness of it is really fun.”
That shape creates the sense of an under dog, which is a good thing for a hero who is in a strange world, all by himself, trying to find a way home.
“Psychologically, you’re absolutely right,” di Bonaventura says. “It’s kind of funny. A metal guy made out of a Camaro, or Bumblebee … is one is weaker than the other? I don’t know, but it is how you feel. It is what your experience is of it, in a way.”
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“It’s nice it’s changing,” di Bonaventura says, acknowledging that the Transformers films haven’t exactly delivered strong roles for women. “When we were debating it, the idea of a young girl seemed to us to be a real change in our direction.”
And Steinfeld proved to be the fearsome flesh-and-blood lead they needed. “I’m just amazed at how talented she is,” di Bonaventura says. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen an actor never miss a beat for the entire shoot. It was crazy. We ended up ahead of schedule because she was just so on it all the time. We could move quicker.”
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Another change was reducing the sheer number of robots-in-disguise featured in this movie. That allowed screenwriter Christina Hodson to focus on the bond between Charlie and Bumblebee and tell a coming-of-age story at the heart of this epic action adventure.
“She wrote a really beautiful script that really played into the emotion of the relationship of the two,” di Bonaventura says. “So looking at the movie from that perspective, we thought, we don’t want to overwhelm one Autobot with too many Decepticons. So he has three primary antagonists.”
Two others, who take the form of automobiles, are also being kept secret for now.
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Right now, Bumblebee has to pull off his own film, though.
“If Bee’s successful, we can have a Bee 2, no doubt,” di Bonaventura. “We have a good sense of where a second movie would go. For me, the greatest thing that came out of the writer’s room was the sense that we could go in any number of directions. It opened up our minds to choices.”
1984forever wrote:Transformers fans
I second this notion, every fan wants something different out of a new piece of media, and humans have always played a major role in the story of the Transformers.Burn wrote:1984forever wrote:Transformers fans
You do NOT speak for all the fans, so don't presume you know what us "Transformers fans" do and don't want.
Burn wrote:1984forever wrote:Transformers fans
You do NOT speak for all the fans, so don't presume you know what us "Transformers fans" do and don't want.
ZeroWolf wrote:But what if the fans who do want this, spend more money then you? Plus what ever contribution you or I make is dwarfed by the international markets, like China. You don't have as much sway as you think you do. Though you also didn't deal with burns main objection, which is you only speak for yourself, no one else.
1984forever wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:But what if the fans who do want this, spend more money then you? Plus what ever contribution you or I make is dwarfed by the international markets, like China. You don't have as much sway as you think you do. Though you also didn't deal with burns main objection, which is you only speak for yourself, no one else.
I don’t only speak for myself because many fans have been very vocal about the amount of screen time the humans get and the desire to see different TFs in the sequels. TLK underperformed, and I will not be surprised when BB underperforms as well in the U.S. and ESPECIALLY abroad. I’ll be back next year to say “I told you so.”
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
ZeroWolf wrote:1984forever wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:But what if the fans who do want this, spend more money then you? Plus what ever contribution you or I make is dwarfed by the international markets, like China. You don't have as much sway as you think you do. Though you also didn't deal with burns main objection, which is you only speak for yourself, no one else.
I don’t only speak for myself because many fans have been very vocal about the amount of screen time the humans get and the desire to see different TFs in the sequels. TLK underperformed, and I will not be surprised when BB underperforms as well in the U.S. and ESPECIALLY abroad. I’ll be back next year to say “I told you so.”
No you agree with other fans views but you don't speak for all of them. This is just your opinion. To speak for the fans you would have to be some kind of democratically elected spokeperson.
Also, what would you do if bb actually performs well? It's certainly not out of the realm of the impossible, it's got a smaller budget for starters and the director has a lot going for him.
That seems to be what this movie's gonna try and do with Bumblebee himself.Stormshot_Prime wrote:Female roles are fantastic and all, but what’s wrong with the audience making a connection to the actual Cybertronians, making them real and likeable characters facing the heavy weight of the war? These movies would do so much more if the transformers were more than war machines.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Female roles are fantastic and all, but what’s wrong with the audience making a connection to the actual Cybertronians, making them real and likeable characters facing the heavy weight of the war? These movies would do so much more if the transformers were more than war machines.
1984forever wrote:If it does well then I'll eat my words on a silicon wafer.
of course I'm in. And I'm not like whoever owes you a Metroplex, I pay my debts bro.Burn wrote:1984forever wrote:If it does well then I'll eat my words on a silicon wafer.
You willing to put your loud mouth to the test?
You've got three warnings there. They can disappear.
I'm still waiting on a shiney new Metroplex from the last fool to run his mouth and bet against me.
You in?
1984forever wrote:of course I'm in. And I'm not like whoever owes you a Metroplex, I pay my debts bro.
Burn wrote:1984forever wrote:of course I'm in. And I'm not like whoever owes you a Metroplex, I pay my debts bro.
Cool cool ... but a shiny new Metroplex may be hard to find these days, so I'll settle for a shiny new PotP Predaking should I win. Should you win, your current three warnings go bye bye.
I guess now we need to decide what defines "performs well".
Good deal. Just got Predaking in the mail yesterday because impatience got the best of me, but I don't want him now because the individual figs are ultra class.william-james88 wrote:Burn wrote:1984forever wrote:of course I'm in. And I'm not like whoever owes you a Metroplex, I pay my debts bro.
Cool cool ... but a shiny new Metroplex may be hard to find these days, so I'll settle for a shiny new PotP Predaking should I win. Should you win, your current three warnings go bye bye.
I guess now we need to decide what defines "performs well".
A movie needs to do at least double what it cost to make to break even. So, knowing this, how about four times the cost of the film? In total. The investors will surely think that is performing well, so we should too. This would mean a total of 400 million.
ultraimpossibleman wrote:Grand innacurration and heavy mistakes !
Diem wrote:This is exactly the kind of nonsense I'm here for.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What about critical acclaim? A bad movie can still be a commercial success by making a lot of money (case in point: ROTF). I'd think this film would also need positive reviews from audiences and critics alike to enhance the wellness of its performance.
william-james88 wrote:A movie needs to do at least double what it cost to make to break even. So, knowing this, how about four times the cost of the film? In total. The investors will surely think that is performing well, so we should too. This would mean a total of 400 million.
ZeroWolf wrote:I would say in total, so domestic and international.
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