SW's SilverHammer wrote:XMen First Class was "prequel" in continuity with the other Xmen Movies. Then it was made part of a reboot sooooooo I'll wait and see how true this is in a year or two.
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:,I didn't even know bay was still attached to the film.
william-james88 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:XMen First Class was "prequel" in continuity with the other Xmen Movies. Then it was made part of a reboot sooooooo I'll wait and see how true this is in a year or two.
How the hell was first class turned into a reboot? The sequel was all about paralels with cast members from later years.Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:,I didn't even know bay was still attached to the film.
We've known this since July...2017
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:,I didn't even know bay was still attached to the film.
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:This... has completely turned me off to seeing it. I was seriously hopeful,I didn't even know bay was still attached to the film. We don't need any damn continuity with the previous movies, what the hell is he thinking.
uuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrgghh.
The movies themselves barely had any continuity with each other to begin with!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Got my ticket to finally see the movie first thing in the morning.
As for this whole prequel vs. reboot issue, y'all are killing me here. The movie being an in-continuity prequel was likely a mandate from on high, pre-established long before Travis Knight was even brought aboard. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that it was even one of the very first things about this movie that were conceived from the get-go. I sincerely doubt that the genesis idea for this movie was "Let's make a spinoff movie about Bumblebee set in the 1980s that has absolutely nothing to do with the other movies" rather than the much more likely idea of "Let's make a spinoff movie about Bumblebee set in the past as a prequel to the other movies."
Now, whether or not the movie actually succeeds or fails at being a continuity-adhering prequel to the other films isn't something I can discuss one way or the other, since I still haven't seen the movie yet. But all I am trying to say is that we shouldn't go pointing fingers at Travis Knight when this movie being a prequel likely wasn't his decision in the first place and was instead likely decided for him beforehand.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Thing is, if they had really wanted to make this film a complete reboot, there really wouldn't have been any reason for them to have stuck with Bumblebee's pacifier face over a more normal looking face, since it wouldn't have been the same character as the Bumblebee from the other movies.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
I was speaking in the hypothetical context of if they had wanted to make this movie a reboot from the beginning of its conception, as though to say "It's not a reboot".Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Thing is, if they had really wanted to make this film a complete reboot, there really wouldn't have been any reason for them to have stuck with Bumblebee's pacifier face over a more normal looking face, since it wouldn't have been the same character as the Bumblebee from the other movies.
You can't just completely turn it to a full reboot midproduction by using a film that was fully well being made as a prequel, it would take a lot more money and time then they had that's unrealistic.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I was speaking in the hypothetical context of if they had wanted to make this movie a reboot from the beginning of its conception, as though to say "It's not a reboot".
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
william-james88 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:XMen First Class was "prequel" in continuity with the other Xmen Movies. Then it was made part of a reboot sooooooo I'll wait and see how true this is in a year or two.
How the hell was first class turned into a reboot? The sequel was all about paralels with cast members from later years.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:william-james88 wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:XMen First Class was "prequel" in continuity with the other Xmen Movies. Then it was made part of a reboot sooooooo I'll wait and see how true this is in a year or two.
How the hell was first class turned into a reboot? The sequel was all about paralels with cast members from later years.
Not to argue to much about Xmen, but the thing about first class was it had enough continuity stay connected to the previous movies, while giving it enough room to not be entirely bound to said continuity. I dont believe first class was made with intention to be 100% a soft reboot, only that if it was successful the studio could move into a different direction without being entirely hamstrung by the abysmal performance of xmen 3 and the weight of the other movies. Thats part of why days for future past both ignores the third xmen movie and officially reboots the xmen movies with time travel shinnangins to continue with the prequels cast and direction.
I wouldn't be surprised if the bumblebee movie will be similar. Intended to be a prequel. but gives itself enough wiggle room that it can change the course of a stumbling franchise. If the movie performs well and is well received, it wouldn't be a shock if future transformers movies begin to veer away from the previous baggage of the 07 movie. Bumblebee definitely sets a new direction with a similar but different enough asthetic that it would be to much whiplash if they do reboot using bumblebee as the base.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Not to argue to much about Xmen, but the thing about first class was it had enough continuity stay connected to the previous movies, while giving it enough room to not be entirely bound to said continuity. I dont believe first class was made with intention to be 100% a soft reboot, only that if it was successful the studio could move into a different direction without being entirely hamstrung by the abysmal performance of xmen 3 and the weight of the other movies. Thats part of why days for future past both ignores the third xmen movie and officially reboots the xmen movies with time travel shinnangins to continue with the prequels cast and direction.
I wouldn't be surprised if the bumblebee movie will be similar. Intended to be a prequel. but gives itself enough wiggle room that it can change the course of a stumbling franchise. If the movie performs well and is well received, it wouldn't be a shock if future transformers movies begin to veer away from the previous baggage of the 07 movie. Bumblebee definitely sets a new direction with a similar but different enough asthetic that it would be to much whiplash if they do reboot using bumblebee as the base.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Carnivius_Prime wrote:If you liked this one, ok fine that's your thing but I still don't get how it's supposed to please folk by creating a continuity breaking mix-match of two very different takes on the franchise. But yeah whatever... I'm done for now.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ZeroWolf wrote:I've always said that depending on how the movie performs will depend on how Paramount sees it...Personally I think they should just do a full on reboot for the next film, completely clear the state, that means new designs. Also it will probably have better synergy with the gi Joe and micronaughts movies they are planning.
Though let's be honest, this film wouldn't be the first to be a prequel but have conflicting elements with the film supposed to follow it (I'm looking at you Prometheus and Alien: Convent) there is ways around those comments you made Deadput, so as I say it's all down to the films performance (I.e. How much money it makes)
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
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