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Like f-primus-unicron on Facebook · by **f-primus-unicron** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:19 am

i on the other hand am hating the g1 aesthethics thrown in

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:26 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:looking at their g1 cybertron designs, I cant help but feel that they looks a little similar to what we have seen with the siege line. maybe hasbro is trying again to do a unified continuity? still, the clip with ravage launching out of soundwaves chest, and the tetra jets gave me goosebumps.

I think it's more coincidence :-)

given the pipelines and such. Still if it all helps sales.

News Credits: 1 · by **MechaMan Blade** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 11:30 am

This is the Transformers movie I've been waiting for. :APPLAUSE:

Website · by **Fires_Of_Inferno** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:56 pm

I have just gone from zero hype to all the damn hype! Holy $#!+ I want to see this!

News Credits: 15 · by **galvatron00** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:59 pm

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

And that Russian Bumblebee logo is the best.

by **noctorro** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:00 pm

Ontopic:

Love it, I like the kind of softness in it. I love the fact that there's a female Decepticon car (at least I think she's a Decepticon). I love that it looks like they're going to have dialogue.
About the Cybertron bits, yes I agree with some of you guys. It looks like the video game cinematic from Fall of Cybertron / War for Cybertron. I would like if they clean it up a bit and make it somehow more realistic. But if they leave it as is I won't have a problem with it.

One thing I do wish, man they have to become toys! I need all of them, every single Cybertron Transformer. And I need... well I need every single Transformers character as a Generations style toy.

Looks so sweet man. G1 fan pandering. Well, it's not fanservice if it's well written and makes sense to be there. Optimus Prime doesn't need to look like a Bionicle. Megatron doesn't need to look like puked out paperclips and Starscream didn't need to look like a flying squirel female genital monkey bugface.
Because that was total bullsh*t from the Bayformers.

News Credits: 2 · by **partholon** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:46 pm

Actually the one thing baffling me is why the yanks got so jipped with their trailer when the international one is SOOOO much better.

i agree the cybertrons bits look a bit ropey but i put that down to CG still being in development. its not unusual in trailers so i expect a bit of a clean up to give it more layers.

but all in all this is what ive been wanting since the beginning. i cant express how GOOD it is to just be able to recognise on sight who a character is meant to be.
even on an easter egg level, im pretty sure i saw starscream and skywarp with shockwave for instance. ya could never get that in the bay films. speaking of that scene it seems to be very similar to a scene in the first "war within" series where thundercracker and skywarp took out that building with all the neutrals in it. it certainl looks like theyre trying to drop in on prime at the very least.

theres enough fan service in this to keep me sated but if one or two characters actually did their "power" move (i.e skywarp teleport)- however briefly- i'd be in heaven.

im really really looking forward to it now.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:14 pm

I know people are mad that Blitzwing isn't Starscream, but he is seriously one of the coolest looking Transformers in all of the movies.

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:16 pm

Anyone else notice the green conehead in the scene with Shockwave and Starscream?

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:21 pm

Alright, after seeing some stuff Saturday night, and having kept up with stuff since without being here and doing other things some thoughts.

First, GOOD

Everything Earth related. Bee looks great, Shatter and Dropkick with that first ever movie-verse on screen triple change from one alt to another to robot was awesome. Those 2 and Blitzwing look great and have me super stoked. I got goosebumps during some of their scenes.

I am super excited for the movie overall!!!

and now, BAD

Everything on Cybertron.

The aesthetic is not bad, it isn't. But it certainly has no business being "live action." That is the WFC/FOC video game with some Don Figueroa IDW ongoing in it, and it is not that good. It could be far better if it were not live action related.

And honestly, the look compared to the rest of the film really makes it stand out in a very bad way. It looks like something else entirely, like they actually used 5 minutes of someone's FOC gameplay as the first 5 minutes of Transformers Prime. It does not look good in live action, and it is very out of place.

Lastly, if this is what "G1" fans have really wanted in live action, then I am super glad this is not how we started, and I'm super glad this will be brief. It's bad. That is not live action. That is good video game stuff knocked off with extra pointy bits and indentations.

Get. Out.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:22 pm

Autobot N wrote:I know people are mad that Blitzwing isn't Starscream, but he is seriously one of the coolest looking Transformers in all of the movies.

1,000% agreed

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:33 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:I know people are mad that Blitzwing isn't Starscream, but he is seriously one of the coolest looking Transformers in all of the movies.

1,000% agreed

In fact, I think I can confidently say that this is the best looking Movie design out of all of them.

Also, the easiest way to solve the Blitzwing issue:
Step 1: Change color to blue
Step 2: Change name to Thundercracker
Step 3: No one complains
Step 4: Profit

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:06 pm

Autobot N wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:I know people are mad that Blitzwing isn't Starscream, but he is seriously one of the coolest looking Transformers in all of the movies.

1,000% agreed
In fact, I think I can confidently say that this is the best looking Movie design out of all of them.

Also, the easiest way to solve the Blitzwing issue:
Step 1: Change color to blue
Step 2: Change name to Thundercracker
Step 3: No one complains
Step 4: Profit

I mean if the rumors of him biting it early in the movie actually happen I can see people being upset if it was one of those guys.

I could see why they went with Blitzwing.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:38 pm

Decepticon Stryker wrote:Anyone else notice the green conehead in the scene with Shockwave and Starscream?

Upon rewatching that bit a few times, I don't think that Acid Storm that currently unnamed green Seeker is a conehead, he looks like he just has some tetrajet kibble behind his head. It doesn't turn/move with the rest of his head. I can totally see why you thought it was attached though.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:12 pm

partholon wrote:Actually the one thing baffling me is why the yanks got so jipped with their trailer when the international one is SOOOO much better.

i agree the cybertrons bits look a bit ropey but i put that down to CG still being in development. its not unusual in trailers so i expect a bit of a clean up to give it more layers.

but all in all this is what ive been wanting since the beginning. i cant express how GOOD it is to just be able to recognise on sight who a character is meant to be.
even on an easter egg level, im pretty sure i saw starscream and skywarp with shockwave for instance.

That was Blitzwing with Shockwave, not Starscream.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:12 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Anyone else notice the green conehead in the scene with Shockwave and Starscream?

Upon rewatching that bit a few times, I don't think that Acid Storm that currently unnamed green Seeker is a conehead, he looks like he just has some tetrajet kibble behind his head. It doesn't turn/move with the rest of his head. I can totally see why you thought it was attached though.

His particular shade of green combined with white reminds me of DOTM Air Raid (whose Japanese name was "Seeker Air Raid", as though he had defected from the Decepticons to the Autobots).

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:18 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Alright, after seeing some stuff Saturday night, and having kept up with stuff since without being here and doing other things some thoughts.

First, GOOD

Everything Earth related. Bee looks great, Shatter and Dropkick with that first ever movie-verse on screen triple change from one alt to another to robot was awesome. Those 2 and Blitzwing look great and have me super stoked. I got goosebumps during some of their scenes.

I am super excited for the movie overall!!!

and now, BAD

Everything on Cybertron.

The aesthetic is not bad, it isn't. But it certainly has no business being "live action." That is the WFC/FOC video game with some Don Figueroa IDW ongoing in it, and it is not that good. It could be far better if it were not live action related.

And honestly, the look compared to the rest of the film really makes it stand out in a very bad way. It looks like something else entirely, like they actually used 5 minutes of someone's FOC gameplay as the first 5 minutes of Transformers Prime. It does not look good in live action, and it is very out of place.

Lastly, if this is what "G1" fans have really wanted in live action, then I am super glad this is not how we started, and I'm super glad this will be brief. It's bad. That is not live action. That is good video game stuff knocked off with extra pointy bits and indentations.

Get. Out.

But none of the robots in these films are live action either, they are all CGI. The fight between Bee and Optimus in TLK is all CGI until cade yeager shows up. So this is the same thing but devoid of any BS.

Also, thats not a conehead in the trailer. If you pause you can see that his head is the same as the others, he just has kibble in his back that sticks upward. But he doeant have a cone sitting atop his head.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:23 pm

william-james88 wrote:But none of the robots in these films are live action either, they are all CGI. The fight between Bee and Optimus in TLK is all CGI until cade yeager shows up. So this is the same thing but devoid of any BS.

Come on Will, let's not start one of these conversations again. You know what I mean.

It's a live action movie, that footage does not match at all. Make it a whole other movie or video game or TV show after cleaning it up a little.

by **hausjam** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:37 pm

I am pretty sure this is Hasbro's final hurrah. Because while it looks awesome, this isn't going to be any more understandable to consumers and critics than Bay's movies were. And if they don't understand it, it won't be successful.
I am glad we are finally getting some G1-ish live action, but it might be too cutesy for the masses, and I don't know if there are enough of us geewuners out there to support a very cgi expensive franchise.
I hope I'm wrong.

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:49 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Anyone else notice the green conehead in the scene with Shockwave and Starscream?

Upon rewatching that bit a few times, I don't think that Acid Storm that currently unnamed green Seeker is a conehead, he looks like he just has some tetrajet kibble behind his head. It doesn't turn/move with the rest of his head. I can totally see why you thought it was attached though.
His particular shade of green combined with white reminds me of DOTM Air Raid (whose Japanese name was "Seeker Air Raid", as though he had defected from the Decepticons to the Autobots).

Yeah, I see it too. But I doubt it's DOTM Air Raid, it's probably just a generic.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:52 pm

Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Anyone else notice the green conehead in the scene with Shockwave and Starscream?

Upon rewatching that bit a few times, I don't think that Acid Storm that currently unnamed green Seeker is a conehead, he looks like he just has some tetrajet kibble behind his head. It doesn't turn/move with the rest of his head. I can totally see why you thought it was attached though.
His particular shade of green combined with white reminds me of DOTM Air Raid (whose Japanese name was "Seeker Air Raid", as though he had defected from the Decepticons to the Autobots).
Yeah, I see it too. But I doubt it's DOTM Air Raid, it's probably just a generic.

Right yeah. The colors also remind me of a bunch of other characters, as that shade of green with white is pretty common.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:21 pm

hausjam wrote:I am glad we are finally getting some G1-ish live action, but it might be too cutesy for the masses, and I don't know if there are enough of us geewuners out there to support a very cgi expensive franchise.
I hope I'm wrong.

I'm not a G1-er, I was born during the tail end of Beast Wars and my first TF experience was from RiD and Armada, and I think this looks amazing and am more excited for this than I think any of the past TF films except the first one. It's not necessarily just a G1 nostalgia thing.

News Credits: 9 · by **Rysquad** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:17 pm

I think I like the Bay designs for live-action more. Reserving final judgement until the film is released, of course.

These trailers just feel like video game cut-scenes.

I get that some (most?) people will like that.

by **Ultra Markus** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:27 pm

it looks fun to watch

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:38 pm

excalibur1814 wrote:Yeah, I'll admit it, G1 ALL the way for me.

This movie can then spawn two line of toys, possibly, including present day and the Cybertron range. Either way the closer they get to G1 the closer they get to selling more toys to the older guys as well as the kids. Cha-ching. $$$$

Cyberverse is already the G1 toyline for kids (even though G1 itself probably doesn't mean a damn thing to most of them) and Generations is already the G1 toyline for adults. Who's a third one supposed to be for? I think they're better off mostly sticking to the robot aesthetics we'll be seeing on Earth for most of the film, which reminds me a little of Transformers Prime in thar the idea seems to be "movie style, but without a bunch of ugly exposed-looking parts or things that split up into a bunch of pieces that go everywhere for no reason streamlined".

Also, it's kind of ironic seeing someone say "G1 all the way" with a Mini-Con symbol for their profile.