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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Combat Zero » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:51 am

Ha, took them 11 years to finally get the designs right. Maybe I might see some potential on how this turned out after all. :-?
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:56 am

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william-james88 wrote:As for Bee being Bay-verse Bee, I feel thats only because of his face. Of course, a head is a big deal, it totally defines you. But for this Bee, its all thats left. The rest of the bot feels very G1 styled (not necessaily G1 Bee,but G1 in general), with all the smooth surfaces. I think if his head was made more G1 ala Soundwave and Prime in this film, it would truly reveal just how different this been design is compared to the established Bay look.


I actually feel like Bee's head here looks very well, it's cute and more like what I think his original Bay verse head was supposed to invoke to the audience. (the whole puppy like behavior)

I honestly don't know what I prefer I like Bee's G1 face and it's probably easier for talking but I think it's just pretty generic like all the non face plated Autobots (not that there's anything wrong with normal generic mouth faces but for someone as significant as Bumblebee)


I didnt mean to say it didnt look good, i just meant it was the only obvious remnant of the original Bay design and the only thing stopping it from us thinking he looks more in line with Optimus and Soundwave.

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Burn wrote:I am so incredibly over this movie. For years anyone who reacted negatively to a trailer were shouted down and told to wait until the movie was released before judging.

But this is the complete opposite, just because of a few seconds of G1-esque designs and suddenly it's the greatest movie ever. ugh ... my expectations were low, but given how people have peed their pants over this trailer I feel like logging off for a few weeks until the over-hype dies down until December.
You must be referring to elsewhere, since on this site in this very thread the most vocal reactions have been criticizing the G1-based designs, not loving them.

Yeah, I am personally a bit upset that I have no one to share my sqwees with :(
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:33 am

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william-james88 wrote:
I didnt mean to say it didnt look good, i just meant it was the only obvious remnant of the original Bay design and the only thing stopping it from us thinking he looks more in line with Optimus and Soundwave.

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Burn wrote:I am so incredibly over this movie. For years anyone who reacted negatively to a trailer were shouted down and told to wait until the movie was released before judging.

But this is the complete opposite, just because of a few seconds of G1-esque designs and suddenly it's the greatest movie ever. ugh ... my expectations were low, but given how people have peed their pants over this trailer I feel like logging off for a few weeks until the over-hype dies down until December.
You must be referring to elsewhere, since on this site in this very thread the most vocal reactions have been criticizing the G1-based designs, not loving them.

Yeah, I am personally a bit upset that I have no one to share my sqwees with :(


Oh I see, I understand what you mean.


And I do share excitement over these designs in general even if it's just a movie take on G1 designs.


I just really like Acid Storm being there.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot N » Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:44 am

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Deadput wrote:I just really like Acid Storm being there.
Hey, first he gets into the main cast of Cyberverse, and now he's in a movie. Acid Storm is on the uptick.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:06 am

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Autobot N wrote:
Deadput wrote:I just really like Acid Storm being there.
Hey, first he gets into the main cast of Cyberverse, and now he's in a movie. Acid Storm is on the uptick.


Could say he's brewing up a storm eh?
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby partholon » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:14 am

ya know lads theres one other thing to remember here.

this is the CHEAPEST Transformers movie in the franchise. $100 mil or so IIRC.

So to get the cyberton stuff looking anyway decent at all is a bleeding miracle- and my moneys is STILL on em polishing that stuff off to look better by release date.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot N » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:22 am

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Deadput wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Deadput wrote:I just really like Acid Storm being there.
Hey, first he gets into the main cast of Cyberverse, and now he's in a movie. Acid Storm is on the uptick.


Could say he's brewing up a storm eh?
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Primal » Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:45 am

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Autobot N wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
Deadput wrote:I just really like Acid Storm being there.
Hey, first he gets into the main cast of Cyberverse, and now he's in a movie. Acid Storm is on the uptick.


Could say he's brewing up a storm eh?

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby DeadCaL » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:42 pm

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:00 pm

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partholon wrote:ya know lads theres one other thing to remember here.

this is the CHEAPEST Transformers movie in the franchise. $100 mil or so IIRC.

So to get the cyberton stuff looking anyway decent at all is a bleeding miracle- and my moneys is STILL on em polishing that stuff off to look better by release date.

Actually I think the length of that Cybertron segment will be testament to how "cheap" the movie is as in comparison to the rest of the movie, it'll be very short.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:13 pm

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I understand some of the criticisms, comparing some of the all-cybertronian sequences to things like FoC (which was top notch video game graphics for 2012), or even Transformers Prime (2010-2013) but I think HD game graphics have kind of spoiled us.

I'm not exactly sure what the average budget is for video games nowadays. I know that development of a game is becoming more and more like that of a big budget hollywood movie, but still, I don't think they are in the high tens-to hundreds of millions of dollars for development.

I too believe the sequences (however brief they are) will look more polished by the time of release, or else, yes it would look jarring. The first TF film, DotM, and even TLK (when Prime meets Quintessa), all had 100% cg scenes on Cybertron that did not look any different than the overall film.

I'm sure, as most have speculated, the scenes of war on Cybertron will be brief, but any future chance we have to have a full movie with nothing but Transformers, I am going to support any way I can.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:19 pm

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We've already had a movie with nothing but transformers... Predacons Rising
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:24 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:We've already had a movie with nothing but transformers... Predacons Rising


..and it was amazing, for a small animation studio, imagine what could be done with a big Hollywood budget. Also, Predacons Rising was for the home media market, not a theatrical release.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:52 pm

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Burn wrote:I am so incredibly over this movie. For years anyone who reacted negatively to a trailer were shouted down and told to wait until the movie was released before judging.

But this is the complete opposite, just because of a few seconds of G1-esque designs and suddenly it's the greatest movie ever. ugh ... my expectations were low, but given how people have peed their pants over this trailer I feel like logging off for a few weeks until the over-hype dies down until December.
You must be referring to elsewhere, since on this site in this very thread the most vocal reactions have been criticizing the G1-based designs, not loving them.

I try to not read movie threads on this site unless reports are filed, so yes, I'm talking broader picture here.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:02 pm

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I can't stop watching the triple changes in the trailer, nor the scene between Bee putting on his mask to his fight with Dropkick. The music score and imagery is so good
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:50 pm

o.supreme wrote:I understand some of the criticisms, comparing some of the all-cybertronian sequences to things like FoC (which was top notch video game graphics for 2012), or even Transformers Prime (2010-2013) but I think HD game graphics have kind of spoiled us.

I'm not exactly sure what the average budget is for video games nowadays. I know that development of a game is becoming more and more like that of a big budget hollywood movie, but still, I don't think they are in the high tens-to hundreds of millions of dollars for development.

I too believe the sequences (however brief they are) will look more polished by the time of release, or else, yes it would look jarring. The first TF film, DotM, and even TLK (when Prime meets Quintessa), all had 100% cg scenes on Cybertron that did not look any different than the overall film.

I'm sure, as most have speculated, the scenes of war on Cybertron will be brief, but any future chance we have to have a full movie with nothing but Transformers, I am going to support any way I can.


The development for the game Destiny was 140 million $ and that does not cover the added marketting cost. Thats higher than the budget for this film.


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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:15 pm

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:35 pm

Just an FYI to those who find the G1 designs to hurt the continuity, when it comes to Shockwave it is actually in live action film continuity that he was first seen on earth in his G1 design. So it could be presumed that others looked more G1 on Cybertron.

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Crosscheck » Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:43 am

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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Adimus Prime » Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:37 am

Is that Action Master Soundwave? Judging by his proportions he must be. Soundwave is supposed to have a big chest, broad shoulders and big chunky legs. Instead he has a big head and a small body, almost like a Japanese Superdeformed.
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Re: Transformers Bumblebee Movie Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:55 am

Crosscheck wrote:To hell with continuity, I hope this is a full-on reboot. The Transformers film franchise has been utter trash. Time to start fresh.



Agreed. And this seems like a decent starting point.
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