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Not broken on my end.Mindmaster wrote:Also, broken image is broken.
Mindmaster wrote:Out of curiosity, what were the other nineteen concepts?
20 Years, 20 Exclusives That Never Were.
The first 10 never even made it past conception, the second ten were approved but then rejected
1 – Hardshell (G1 Bombshell) from Generations Darkmount/Straxus
2 – Overlord from ROTF Mindwipe
3 – Hubcap from Animated Soundwave
4 – "Marlboro" from ROTF Lockdown
5 – "Femme Fatale Cykill" from Prime First Edition Arcee
6 – "Predaking BW Style" from Beast Wars Tigerhawk
7 – Shattered Glass Stranglehold from 2010 Deluxe Axor, would have had a mustache
8 – Skyquake and King Atlas (I think?) from Universe Ultra Silverbolt
9 – The Turbomasters w/ Thunderclash from Prime RID Ultra Magnus and four Prime RID Deluxe car molds (Wheeljack, Bumblebee, etc.)
10 – Twilight Sparkle Prime from Beast Wars Neo Mach Kick
What You Almost Got
11 – G1 Ransack from Generations FOC Kickback w/ two Arms Microns
12 – Three pirates from PRID Wheeljack, PRID Dreadwing, Generations FOC Air Raid (Wheeljack was almost this year's Cannonball)
13 – Bumper from Prime RID Rumble
14 – G1 Crosshairs from Generations Kup
15 – Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead
16 – Bruton from Generations FOC Grimlock
17 – Bruton from Prime First Edition Bulkhead
18 – Machine Wars Prowl from Classics Mirage (was replaced by Machine Wars Mirage)
19 – Machine Wars Hubcap from Generations Kup w/ the MW Hoist/Electrons headsculpt
Teasing us with Animated drawings, Sideswipe, Jackpot, Jhiaxus, Goldbug, purple Blackout
20 – The original plan for 2011's Animated set: Toxic Mayhem – BugBite (Animated Hydrodrive Bumblebee) and Toxitron (Animated Wingblade Optimus Prime) vs. Jackpot (which we did get later) and Kup (Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime). Animated Sideswipe would have been based on the SG deco instead of the G2 deco. Animated Tigatron from Rodimus. Animated Shokaract from Blackout. Animated Springer from Swindle. Animated Flamewar, Nightracer, and one other black & green Con fembot (missed the name of this one) from Arcee. Plus G1-colors Breakdown and Action Master colors Thundercracker (both of which we did wind up getting).
One proposal that couldn’t be found was told to us instead: a BotCon Alternators box set. Four figure box set. Galvatron from Wheeljack (new head). Cyclonus from Mirage. Ultra Magnus from Optimus. Rodimus from somebody (but we got one anyway).
The Ultra Mammoth idea came out earlier than it was revealed, in like 2012 or so. And since we got a BW version of Ultra Magnus, and there was already a BW version of Optimus, who does that leave that's missing...?
Bonus 21 – Rodimouse from Transmetal Rattrap!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
From what I recall, the most well received ideas from the audience were numbers 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 (the whole room went nuts over this one, with everyone either loving it or hating it), 11, 15, 18, 19, 20, the Alternators set, and 21.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Those all sound horrible with the exception of ransack, skyquake, and king atlas.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Lemme try a different host:
1 – Hardshell (G1 Bombshell) from Generations Darkmount/Straxus
4 – "Marlboro" from ROTF Lockdown
Sabrblade wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Out of curiosity, what were the other nineteen concepts?
Quoted from my own coverage of the panel:20 Years, 20 Exclusives That Never Were.
The first 10 never even made it past conception, the second ten were approved but then rejected
1 – Hardshell (G1 Bombshell) from Generations Darkmount/Straxus
2 – Overlord from ROTF Mindwipe
3 – Hubcap from Animated Soundwave
4 – "Marlboro" from ROTF Lockdown
5 – "Femme Fatale Cykill" from Prime First Edition Arcee
6 – "Predaking BW Style" from Beast Wars Tigerhawk
7 – Shattered Glass Stranglehold from 2010 Deluxe Axor, would have had a mustache
8 – Skyquake and King Atlas (I think?) from Universe Ultra Silverbolt
9 – The Turbomasters w/ Thunderclash from Prime RID Ultra Magnus and four Prime RID Deluxe car molds (Wheeljack, Bumblebee, etc.)
10 – Twilight Sparkle Prime from Beast Wars Neo Mach Kick
What You Almost Got
11 – G1 Ransack from Generations FOC Kickback w/ two Arms Microns
12 – Three pirates from PRID Wheeljack, PRID Dreadwing, Generations FOC Air Raid (Wheeljack was almost this year's Cannonball)
13 – Bumper from Prime RID Rumble
14 – G1 Crosshairs from Generations Kup
15 – Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead
16 – Bruton from Generations FOC Grimlock
17 – Bruton from Prime First Edition Bulkhead
18 – Machine Wars Prowl from Classics Mirage (was replaced by Machine Wars Mirage)
19 – Machine Wars Hubcap from Generations Kup w/ the MW Hoist/Electrons headsculpt
Teasing us with Animated drawings, Sideswipe, Jackpot, Jhiaxus, Goldbug, purple Blackout
20 – The original plan for 2011's Animated set: Toxic Mayhem – BugBite (Animated Hydrodrive Bumblebee) and Toxitron (Animated Wingblade Optimus Prime) vs. Jackpot (which we did get later) and Kup (Cybertron Mode Optimus Prime). Animated Sideswipe would have been based on the SG deco instead of the G2 deco. Animated Tigatron from Rodimus. Animated Shokaract from Blackout. Animated Springer from Swindle. Animated Flamewar, Nightracer, and one other black & green Con fembot (missed the name of this one) from Arcee. Plus G1-colors Breakdown and Action Master colors Thundercracker (both of which we did wind up getting).
One proposal that couldn’t be found was told to us instead: a BotCon Alternators box set. Four figure box set. Galvatron from Wheeljack (new head). Cyclonus from Mirage. Ultra Magnus from Optimus. Rodimus from somebody (but we got one anyway).
The Ultra Mammoth idea came out earlier than it was revealed, in like 2012 or so. And since we got a BW version of Ultra Magnus, and there was already a BW version of Optimus, who does that leave that's missing...?
Bonus 21 – Rodimouse from Transmetal Rattrap!
Autobot tap out wrote:
i hope y'all realize once Va'al gets back from wherever and reads these post insulting his favorite character , somebody's not going to be a happy camper![]()
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D-Maximus_Prime wrote: I thought the Daleks had him?
Hellscream9999 wrote: They do
The truth is revealed
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Man, good thing Bruton sucks as both a character and a concept, they were right to reject
aaaaaand fixed, try posting the image, not the page next time![]()
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
On my end it is your image that is broken. XDSW's SilverHammer wrote:Man, good thing Bruton sucks as both a character and a concept, they were right to reject
aaaaaand fixed, try posting the image, not the page next time![]()
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:From what I recall, the most well received ideas from the audience were numbers 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 (the whole room went nuts over this one, with everyone either loving it or hating it), 11, 15, 18, 19, 20, the Alternators set, and 21.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Those all sound horrible with the exception of ransack, skyquake, and king atlas.
The idea probably came about in the years before Generations Wheeljack existed. Not all of these ideas were recent ones. These spanned Fun Pub entire run of the convention, which goes back as far as 2005.SW's SilverHammer wrote:ROTF Lockdown does not fit for a diaclone wheeljack homage, knowing the club they should've just reused Generations wheeljack for it, makes the most sense.
Eh, from what I remember of it, the Tigerhawk mold looked pretty cool in yellow, orange, and black.SW's SilverHammer wrote:BW's Prediking would've been interesting, but pointless.
The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.
People were upset enough that Prowl and Hubcap got left out of the 2013 exclusive lineup, and many still feel that Electro was an unnecessary inclusion that robbed Hubcap (the sole new Autobot character of the line) of his chance for getting a new toy.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Machine wars, well if they wanted to stay slavish to the toys like thundercracker and mirage then they would've made for piss poor exclusives.
A lot of yearly sets feel like mishmashes (take this year's for instance). It all depends on what the story would have been like.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Toxic Mayhem sounds like a mishmash of animated characters, The Stunti-con job was at least united by a solid theme.
To each his own. The crowd erupted with applause and laughter when they saw a Rodimus-decoed TM Rattrap appear onscreen. One of those "so out-there crazy it's awesome" ideas.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Rodimouse is genuinely the stupidest transformer concept the club's ever produced; I hate it, and everything it represents.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The idea probably came about in the years before Generations Wheeljack existed. Not all of these ideas were recent ones. These spanned Fun Pub entire run of the convention, which goes back as far as 2005.SW's SilverHammer wrote:ROTF Lockdown does not fit for a diaclone wheeljack homage, knowing the club they should've just reused Generations wheeljack for it, makes the most sense.
The audience seemed to take to it solely because of the Marlboor Wheeljack homage, which they found amusing.
Sabrblade wrote:Eh, from what I remember of it, the Tigerhawk mold looked pretty cool in yellow, orange, and black.SW's SilverHammer wrote:BW's Prediking would've been interesting, but pointless.![]()
Sabrblade wrote:The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.
Sabrblade wrote:People were upset enough that Prowl and Hubcap got left out of the 2013 exclusive lineup, and many still feel that Electro was an unnecessary inclusion that robbed Hubcap (the sole new Autobot character of the line) of his chance for getting a new toy.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Machine wars, well if they wanted to stay slavish to the toys like thundercracker and mirage then they would've made for piss poor exclusives.
To be fair though, if you think hard enough, the character choice can make a theme, 2014 for example is different aspects of G1; japanese, americana, marvel comics, sunbow cartoon, toys, and botcon exclusives.Sabrblade wrote:A lot of yearly sets feel like mishmashes (take this year's for instance). It all depends on what the story would have been like.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Toxic Mayhem sounds like a mishmash of animated characters, The Stunti-con job was at least united by a solid theme.
Sabrblade wrote:To each his own. The crowd erupted with applause and laughter when they saw a Rodimus-decoed TM Rattrap appear onscreen. One of those "so out-there crazy it's awesome" ideas.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Rodimouse is genuinely the stupidest transformer concept the club's ever produced; I hate it, and everything it represents.
Knowing the mold, it's hard to not make it look good in any colors.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Eh, from what I remember of it, the Tigerhawk mold looked pretty cool in yellow, orange, and black.SW's SilverHammer wrote:BW's Prediking would've been interesting, but pointless.![]()
Knowing the mold, it looked better in black gray, and purples![]()
Blame Hasbro.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.
And there is a prime example of why some characters deserve their own mold, and why the club can never do justice to them, *cough* chromedome, *cough* Rewind.
Right, and Toxic Mayhem would have centered on Toxitron being a key character with the others likewise worked in somehow. Given that Sideswipe and Jackpot are cops, and Tigatron would have homaged his 2006 toy (who was also a cop), it's likely the story would have still been a cop-based story like what The Stunti-Con Job was, only with Toxitron as the main villain instead (and probably not characterized as "Bizarro-esque" dim-witted as he was made to be).SW's SilverHammer wrote:To be fair though, if you think hard enough, the character choice can make a theme, 2014 for example is different aspects of G1; japanese, americana, marvel comics, sunbow cartoon, toys, and botcon exclusives.Sabrblade wrote:A lot of yearly sets feel like mishmashes (take this year's for instance). It all depends on what the story would have been like.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Toxic Mayhem sounds like a mishmash of animated characters, The Stunti-con job was at least united by a solid theme.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Blame Hasbro.[/quote]SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.
And there is a prime example of why some characters deserve their own mold, and why the club can never do justice to them, *cough* chromedome, *cough* Rewind.
Sabrblade wrote:
The first 10 never even made it past conception, the second ten were approved but then rejected
6 – "Predaking BW Style" from Beast Wars Tigerhawk
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Blame Hasbro.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The guys giving the presentation explained that it would have been an Earth body for her like what Blackout's toy was. And considering the limitations of what's available to work with when it comes to Animated toys, there's not a whole lot of other options to choose from short of having a whole new mold made by Hasbro.SW's SilverHammer wrote:Animated Strika from Animated Voyager Bulkhead would've ruined her distinct character design.
And there is a prime example of why some characters deserve their own mold, and why the club can never do justice to them, *cough* chromedome, *cough* Rewind.
Oh come on, I'm pretty damn skippy that most of the toys fun pub's been putting on the market these past few years are more so the result of internal "office" politics between the club and the transformer people at Hasbro , than Hasbro not wanting to get off their asses despite what they say.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The Destructons? I... find them stupid.
The latest story made them interesting with backstories rooted in pathos.SW's SilverHammer wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The Destructons? I... find them stupid.
I..............Agree
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The latest story made them interesting with backstories rooted in pathos.SW's SilverHammer wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:The Destructons? I... find them stupid.
I..............Agree
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