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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby leakin' lubricant » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:37 pm

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ThatOneMoose wrote:Looks like TFW2005 got some news us seibertronians didn't get:
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... or-181841/


We might be getting some more news over here too! :D


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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:37 pm

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Desslok2201 wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:An upside down Mixmaster sounds like a cost cutting decision to me, use the back of the truck as a foot and no need to have the cab section flip up. It baffles me that something so clearly designed to be G1 then goes and stuffs it at the last hurdle and could cause those that REALLY like their G1 to be bang on G1 to think twice. #-o

No one has confirmed it's not mistransformed yet, and looking at the G1 versions, Mixmaster was the simplest of them all. I can't fathom how making anything reversing that set up is in any way a cost cutting measure


True it hasn't been confirmed its not mistransformed but then why would it have a leg connection port on both ends? They wouldn't which would mean that the upper leg is simply balancing on Mixmaster...or maybe glued.

By turning Mixmaster upside down there is no need for a joint allowing the cab to fold over to form Devy's foot, therefore reducing the cost of the design.


I would assume nothing as fact based on a very blurry photo, especially when Mixmaster is the one we see least.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:41 pm

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Also, the person was TOLD Devastator was the same size as Metroplex. Right there is a big issue of possible miscomunication. The last time we heard he was similar to Metroplex was a reference to the box and it could easily be a misinterpretation about that.

The person who made these statements already reverted a few, such as Devy being a toysrus exclusvie then not being sure. He is relying on what he heard from a rep and we all know reps dont know as much about TFs as we do.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:48 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:An upside down Mixmaster sounds like a cost cutting decision to me, use the back of the truck as a foot and no need to have the cab section flip up. It baffles me that something so clearly designed to be G1 then goes and stuffs it at the last hurdle and could cause those that REALLY like their G1 to be bang on G1 to think twice. #-o

No one has confirmed it's not mistransformed yet, and looking at the G1 versions, Mixmaster was the simplest of them all. I can't fathom how making anything reversing that set up is in any way a cost cutting measure


True it hasn't been confirmed its not mistransformed but then why would it have a leg connection port on both ends? They wouldn't which would mean that the upper leg is simply balancing on Mixmaster...or maybe glued.

By turning Mixmaster upside down there is no need for a joint allowing the cab to fold over to form Devy's foot, therefore reducing the cost of the design.


I would assume nothing as fact based on a very blurry photo, especially when Mixmaster is the one we see least.


Assuming nothing, just speculating.. The report also says the connection ports are unique to Devy. Maybe Mixmaster can flip around on it sort of like the bridge area of energon Omega Supreme flips around on an axis. It's a thought, and a cheap, easy way to do it.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Counterpunch » Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:57 pm

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MP Devastator.

Yup. I can take it as that.

Otherwise the size really kind of blows all the other scaling out of the water.

(and don't get all preachy about scale to me, I'm speaking in a relative sense with the figure class sizes we already have)
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:00 pm

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People probably dont care, but the'res another toy in the picture in the front. We only see part of it as a red angular structure. It's the rescuebots boat revealed in London a few weks ago :)
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:01 pm

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Yeah, I call bull on "nearly as tall as Metroplex." We measured that picture two different ways, and the 1.5 feet estimate was replicated. If you're counting the crane arm off of Devastator's left shoulder as the "top" of the figure, then yes, it's nearly as tall as Metroplex, but that's an obviously flawed way to measure the figure's actual "height." To the top of the head, as near as we can tell from visual evidence, Devastator is right around 18 inches tall.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:08 pm

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Not necessarily news, but there was a TFW2005 user who was there that clarified on some points. Also seen were First Aid and Streetwise, G1 Astrotrain/Blitzwing and Perceptor/Blaster reissues, and an RiD'15 Drift that deploys Minicons, which I will include in the appropriate threads.

I attended the Hasbro booth and can clarify some points.

Devy consists of 6 parts with individual robot modes. He is nearly the same height as Metroplex. It's going to be a TRU exclusive and will be officially revealed at New York toy fair. He is very G1esque and looks great. The only thing that's kind of a bummer, is that the individual robots look a bit upscaled, like the upscaled cyberverse Beast Hunters deluxe figures.
But Devastator is an entirely new mold. He also has his own kind of combining ports as far as I could see.

With upscaled I mean that they look like they were meant to be deluxe sized. Imagine the Cyberverse figures from Prime Beast Hunters which were upscaled to be deluxe class

I can't tell for sure,but I think Devastator forearms are part of the individual bots.

I only got a rather quick view on the box, but there www no mention it to be a TRU exclusive.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:50 pm

Think this Titan Devastator is HasTak's best work for 2015. It's a home run. The amount of high sculpting, high enginerring and dedication that went into creating something like this is something we don't see often.

Don't care about scale or it being a stand alone toy. Could care less about scale when buying Transformers toys.

I'm in this Transformers hobby to buy high quality toys. Not prepared to buy inferior Transformers toys due to them scaling well next to other Transformers toys.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby sol magnus » Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:57 pm

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think this Titan Devastator is HasTak's best work for 2015. It's a home run. The amount of high sculpting, high enginerring and dedication that went into creating something like this is something we don't see often.

Don't care about scale or it being a stand alone toy. Could care less about scale when buying Transformers toys.

I'm in this Transformers hobby to buy high quality toys. Not prepared to buy inferior Transformers toys due to them scaling well next to other Transformers toys.

I don't want to come off as belittling, but that's you.

I've collected Transformers since 1984. I've had something from pretty much every era of Transformers, even at my most casual. However, I personally enjoy scaling, and it is what sold me on post MP-10 Masterpiece figures. I do want "high-quality" Masterpiece figures, though.

The point is, neither of these are mutually exclusive terms and we all collect for OUR reasons and ours alone.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby padfoo » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:01 pm

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Mindmaster wrote:Not necessarily news, but there was a TFW2005 user who was there that clarified on some points. Also seen were First Aid and Streetwise, G1 Astrotrain/Blitzwing and Perceptor/Blaster reissues, and an RiD'15 Drift that deploys Minicons, which I will include in the appropriate threads.

I attended the Hasbro booth and can clarify some points.

Devy consists of 6 parts with individual robot modes. He is nearly the same height as Metroplex. It's going to be a TRU exclusive and will be officially revealed at New York toy fair. He is very G1esque and looks great. The only thing that's kind of a bummer, is that the individual robots look a bit upscaled, like the upscaled cyberverse Beast Hunters deluxe figures.
But Devastator is an entirely new mold. He also has his own kind of combining ports as far as I could see.

With upscaled I mean that they look like they were meant to be deluxe sized. Imagine the Cyberverse figures from Prime Beast Hunters which were upscaled to be deluxe class

I can't tell for sure,but I think Devastator forearms are part of the individual bots.

I only got a rather quick view on the box, but there www no mention it to be a TRU exclusive.
The Constructicons reminded me on the botmodes of the 3rd party Hercules.

Thanks for the news. I believe what's being said about them looking like upscaled deluxes. I get that vibe even from this blurry picture, but Devastator was never super detailed visually in the original fiction anyway.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:11 pm

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You know all I can say at this point, is **** scale. Most Construction vehicles a bigger than the average car anyway; and even at that point Devastator's limbs shouldn't even be in scale with each other. There's no Payloader the same length as a cement truck, and pretty damn skippy neither of them are big enough to form legs for a Hitachi dump truck. Also, for those saying that he's to big because he's near the size of metroplex, metroplex is out of scale anyway.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby padfoo » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:12 pm

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CodenameOmegaSupreme wrote:Devastator looks amazing.
The fans are finally going to get a toy worthy of the character!
I am hoping that a recent comment about Mixmaster was incorrect and that he transforms, as he did back in G1, with his Cab section forming the foot. Its too soon to say with the blurry photos. From what we have seen its certainly worth the wait.

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby peaces » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:50 pm

nothing about upscaled says high quality.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:03 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:You know all I can say at this point, is **** scale.


Seconded ;)

Getting sick and tired of these scale arguments.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby sol magnus » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:05 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:09 pm

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By the way, those fearing those upscaled remarks, just look at the Aerialbots. Those are really simple transfomrers that I could see in scout scale. But they turned out great and are sturdy. Same here except it's voyagers.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:10 pm

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https://twitter.com/Peaugh/status/560657101174112257
That's kinda rude. What's Peaugh got against Seibsie?


I know he meant it tongue in cheek but there were a couple other "blessed individuals" who tend to be die-hard flag wavers at the "other" site. If I could I'd offer $5,000 for some pics just because and have big translucent Seibertron watermarks all over my videos just because I like poking people with a proverbial sharp stick.

I do have to admit I did crack up that people are taking paparazzi style pics of toys, that's where we are now in 2015. I think that's a testament to the popularity and quality of the designs.

I know this might sound crazy but seeing an enhanced version of the image led me to believe that perhaps that's actually a pic of Devastator since it's in front of a black background with the Transformers logo at the top, and in an "action" pose.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby peaces » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:11 pm

i would say the aerialbots are just simple deluxes. not upscaled scouts.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:13 pm

william-james88 wrote:By the way, those fearing those upscaled remarks, just look at the Aerialbots. Those are really simple transfomrers that I could see in scout scale. But they turned out great and are sturdy. Same here except it's voyagers.

I am going to remain cautiously optimistic. I don't mind simple, we already know it looks great, I'm just going to hope there's no massive hollow sections, a la the most recent Jetfire. My fingers, toes, and every other body part capable of doing so is crossed.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:14 pm

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think this Titan Devastator is HasTak's best work for 2015. It's a home run. The amount of high sculpting, high enginerring and dedication that went into creating something like this is something we don't see often.
youre jumping the gun again. all we have right now is half a blurry devastator.

(just trying to be realistic, not pessimistic)
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:15 pm

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peaces wrote:i would say the aerialbots are just simple deluxes. not upscaled scouts.


And "upscaled" doesn't really mean anything until you know how complex the original is. Case in Point: Classics Optimus Prime was originally conceived as a Deluxe, but the design was upsized to roughly Voyager size.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Desslok2201 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:15 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Uh-oh Seib, looks like you have competition for the bounty. ;)

https://twitter.com/Peaugh/status/560657101174112257
That's kinda rude. What's Peaugh got against Seibsie?


I know he meant it tongue in cheek but there were a couple other "blessed individuals" who tend to be die-hard flag wavers at the "other" site. If I could I'd offer $5,000 for some pics just because and have big translucent Seibertron watermarks all over my videos just because I like poking people with a proverbial sharp stick.

I do have to admit I did crack up that people are taking paparazzi style pics of toys, that's where we are now in 2015. I think that's a testament to the popularity and quality of the designs.

I know this might sound crazy but seeing an enhanced version of the image led me to believe that perhaps that's actually a pic of Devastator since it's in front of a black background with the Transformers logo at the top, and in an "action" pose.

Ha. Next we need topless Devastator sunbathing in Cannes.
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Re: Transformers Generations Devastator - So Big It Needs Its Own Thread

Postby Down_Shift » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:16 pm

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