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News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:48 am

I’m banging my head for the same reasons here. The character reveals really hook me I mean anything TF does but...ah, dang, I don’t think it’s something I can really get into. It feels a lot like the old G.I. Joe comic ads where it’s not just a cartoon commercial for toys but it really is. I know any cartoon is selling something but this is just lacking depth for me. At least enough to stay engaged. Kids probably love it but I think I’m just too grown up for it or some such lame excuse :lol:

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:03 pm

o.supreme wrote:ok, so admittedly I am not a fan of this show. Still I try to show support where I can. I watched all of season 1, though I cant recall most of it. However when I began to watch season 2 I felt like I must have missed a LOT. But I went back and watched the last episode of season 1 again, I wasn't wrong. There seems to be a BIG hole between these two stories.

Literally the last scene of S1 E18 is Prime waking up, and a Decepticon battleship heading towards Earth, and the Autobots charging into battle. The opening scene of S2 E1 is BB having some dodecahedron looking *thingy* and he then realizes he is on the moon in a full blown battle...

Is this jarring incoherent story telling done on purpose, or was I watching heavily edited versions online?

There was a time jump between seasons one and two. The dodechahedron is the Allspark and that exact scene was in season one.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:26 pm

The time jump confused the **** out of me, so like o.supreme I went back and watched the last episode of S1.

It helped a little. But not much.

We've gone from a premise where it was a voiceless Bumblebee suffering memory loss being accompanied by Windblade against a handful of Decepticons, the majority of which are just seeker grunts, to ... a full complement of characters.

And Bumblebee can speak.

Oh and we're back to Starscream trying to overthrow Megatron.

Again.

It was a good dynamic back in the day. But come on, stop rehashing things. They had an original premise with S1 and they've thrown it away to rehash.

Hopefully future episodes are better.

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:52 pm

Burn wrote:Oh and we're back to Starscream trying to overthrow Megatron.

Again.

It was a good dynamic back in the day. But come on, stop rehashing things. They had an original premise with S1 and they've thrown it away to rehash.

Hopefully future episodes are better.

I gotta agree with you there. I'm okay with Starscream usurping Megatron, but only if it's done in a unique way. I miss the days of Cybertron, where they actually built up Starscream plotting behind Megatron's back as opposed to his G1 self loudly proclaiming to everyone that he'd overthrow Megatron. Animated did a pretty good job with this too, where it decided to have Starscream just start his own micro-faction. Prime had him take command when Megatron was actually down for the count and not just suffering from minor injuries. Hopefully they'll go a unique route with this in future episodes, but it seems unlikely so far.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 5:58 pm

The other thing with Starscream/Megatron that threw me, was the beating Megatron inflicted on him.

This was quite possibly the most violent beating Megatron has ever delivered to Starscream in a TF cartoon that I can recall.

And this is aimed at very young kids ...

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:00 pm

Burn wrote:The other thing with Starscream/Megatron that threw me, was the beating Megatron inflicted on him.

This was quite possibly the most violent beating Megatron has ever delivered to Starscream in a TF cartoon that I can recall.

And this is aimed at very young kids ...

There was the time that Megatron (as Galvatron) did just straight up murder Starscream.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:18 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Burn wrote:The other thing with Starscream/Megatron that threw me, was the beating Megatron inflicted on him.

This was quite possibly the most violent beating Megatron has ever delivered to Starscream in a TF cartoon that I can recall.

And this is aimed at very young kids ...
There was the time that Megatron (as Galvatron) did just straight up murder Starscream.

Yeah, but that was quick. Most Megatron on Starscream violence has been quick, a backhand here, a face punch there.

This was a prolonged beating. Megatron took pleasure in beating Starscream to death (well I presume he's dead anyway).

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:29 pm

Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Burn wrote:The other thing with Starscream/Megatron that threw me, was the beating Megatron inflicted on him.

This was quite possibly the most violent beating Megatron has ever delivered to Starscream in a TF cartoon that I can recall.

And this is aimed at very young kids ...
There was the time that Megatron (as Galvatron) did just straight up murder Starscream.

Yeah, but that was quick. Most Megatron on Starscream violence has been quick, a backhand here, a face punch there.

This was a prolonged beating. Megatron took pleasure in beating Starscream to death (well I presume he's dead anyway).

Since Starscream's the season-long main antagonist who makes an ambitious power play gambit against both Autobot and Decepticon alike over the course of the remaining episodes, I doubt he's down for the count.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:34 pm

Burn, where did you watch this?

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:38 pm

For those who can't access the first two episodes via official channels, here is an alternative:

"Sea of Tranquility"
"Bad Moon Rising"

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:48 pm

william-james88 wrote:Burn, where did you watch this?

Let's just go with "Foxtel". :WHISTLE:

I mean, you were the one who reported that they've been released already in Australia. :wink:

Plus I thought people already knew where to watch them, hence why I thought spoilers were okay. My bad.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:16 pm

OK I am enjoying Wheeljack and Soundwave

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:52 pm

Some of the voice acting is a little rushed feeling to me especially with a fuller cast now. Jack’s dialogue felt good but I get the voice acting wasn’t necessarily my cup of tea.

See it feels unfair for me to judge though I’m like a grown adult I feel I’m too much at a point where I’m not sure if I’d like this or not as a kid. And Prime is cool, but again I’m not sure if the voice acting is really selling it for me.

It’s definitely Transformers. Transformers are awesome pretty much any way you cut it. That absolves me right? :lol:

Transformers always does well in a plot of the week romp and this fits that mold.

I think I’m needing the Netflix show like yesterday. That’s my issue I bet I’m all focused on that and the greater levity and plot structure I hope it will bring.

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:05 pm

Stargrave wrote:I think I’m needing the Netflix show like yesterday. That’s my issue I bet I’m all focused on that and the greater levity and plot structure I hope it will bring.

Greater levity? Most are thinking it's gonna be another adult-aimed dark series, and fear it could be as bad as the Prime Wars Trilogy webseries that Machinima made. :-s

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:01 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Stargrave wrote:I think I’m needing the Netflix show like yesterday. That’s my issue I bet I’m all focused on that and the greater levity and plot structure I hope it will bring.
Greater levity? Most are thinking it's gonna be another adult-aimed dark series, and fear it could be as bad as the Prime Wars Trilogy webseries that Machinima made.

Ah that’s Machinima. This is Netflix. Voltron did pretty well. They do a lot of shows well. I’m highly optimistic and it feels like a safe bet it’ll be better than the Prime Wars.

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:43 pm

Stargrave wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Stargrave wrote:I think I’m needing the Netflix show like yesterday. That’s my issue I bet I’m all focused on that and the greater levity and plot structure I hope it will bring.
Greater levity? Most are thinking it's gonna be another adult-aimed dark series, and fear it could be as bad as the Prime Wars Trilogy webseries that Machinima made.

Ah that’s Machinima. This is Netflix. Voltron did pretty well. They do a lot of shows well. I’m highly optimistic and it feels like a safe bet it’ll be better than the Prime Wars.

You are aware that a few of the Machinima people will work on the Netflix series, right?

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:53 pm

I still consider a YouTube series that garnered mostly negative reviews from the fandom different than a show on a platform dedicated to shows and movies that also produces shows and movies. I mean the resources in comparison alone have got to be pretty different.

Ya gotta admit Siege has a lot of potential for something awesome.

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:03 am

Stargrave wrote:I still consider a YouTube series that garnered mostly negative reviews from the fandom different than a show on a platform dedicated to shows and movies that also produces shows and movies. I mean the resources in comparison alone have got to be pretty different.

I have seen some stop-motion series that are better both animation wise and story wise than the live action films. And those have budgets almost three times larger than Netflix shows. It's not about what resources you use, but how you use those resources.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:01 am

Duh! Not levity! I’m knew I misspoke somewhere. I meant a more serious take. Jeez now I can sleep.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:49 am

Stargrave wrote:Ya gotta admit Siege has a lot of potential for something awesome.

Ya gotta admit, so did Combiner Wars.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:24 am

william-james88 wrote:
Stargrave wrote:Ya gotta admit Siege has a lot of potential for something awesome.

Ya gotta admit, so did Combiner Wars.

Ugh, I know... that Megatron gun mode finale was pretty boss though :lol:

They had so few characters. I want Siege to be like Neo Tokyo Blade Runner city streets full of Cybertronians and neon signs I want Coruscant on Cybertron.

Wars made Cybertron seem almost desolate at times.

Know what? Those stop motion battles are so awesome and I love Robot Chicken. A stop motion show would be so cool :lol:

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:42 am

Stargrave wrote:Ugh, I know... that Megatron gun mode finale was pretty boss though

Eh, The Battle of the Star Gate did it better.

Stargrave wrote:They had so few characters. I want Siege to be like Neo Tokyo Blade Runner city streets full of Cybertronians and neon signs I want Coruscant on Cybertron.

So, Beast Machines with a living population.

News Credits: 340 · by **Stargrave** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:30 am

That’s aaaaawesome! I love the G1 gun mode :lol:

dude that made my day. See you’re dialed into the manga and Legends comics I’m totally naive to that whole part of the fandom.

Dude that made my day. Pun intended.

No! No Beast Machines! Please...after BW being so amazing BM just broke my heart. You did what to Rhinox?!?! I say thee nay!!

News Credits: 438 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:16 am

Stargrave wrote:That’s aaaaawesome! I love the G1 gun mode dude that made my day. See you’re dialed into the manga and Legends comics I’m totally naive to that whole part of the fandom.

Dude that made my day. Pun intended.

All four chapters can be read in English below. I recommend it for whenever you have a day off to read it:
Chapter 1
Chapter 2
Chapter 3
Chapter 4

Stargrave wrote:No! No Beast Machines! Please...after BW being so amazing BM just broke my heart. You did what to Rhinox?!?! I say thee nay!!

I dunno, man. Cybertron looked pretty Coruscant-y in that show.

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:07 pm

TRANSFORMERS fans in the United States who are looking to catch up on TRANSFORMERS: CYBERVERSE Season 1 ahead of this Saturday's TRANSFORMERS: Cyberverse Season 2 premiere are in luck!

The TRANSFORMERS team just announced via social, that a 24-hr marathon of Season 1 is currently happening on their official YouTube channel! You can tune in here: https://www.youtube.com/user/transformers

The premiere will be available on the TRANSFORMERS Official YouTube channel at 6:30 a.m. EST this Sunday.