The Energon Pub

News Credits: 295 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:42 pm

They look pretty neat so far. Here's to hoping they are of good quality.

News Credits: 4877 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:58 pm

Shleebeef wrote:G1 is great, it brought us all these characters we love, but when are we going to get something new and exciting.

The RID Decepticons were all new and exciting. Sure, we also got Stascream, Soundwave and the Stunticons but those designs were all new and fun.

News Credits: 12 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:23 pm

News Credits: 10 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:08 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Shleebeef wrote:G1 is great, it brought us all these characters we love, but when are we going to get something new and exciting.

The RID Decepticons were all new and exciting. Sure, we also got Stascream, Soundwave and the Stunticons but those designs were all new and fun.

I wouldn't exactly call "robot animal stereotypes" new and exciting.

To this day I still have to resist the urge to swear every time I remember the word "Buffaloid."

F*ck.

Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:54 pm

Well Shockwave and Starscream look decent, and for $15 I'm going for them, but nothing else looks that great.

News Credits: 11 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:21 pm

At face value this line doesn't seem too different from Robots in Disguise, the only figure that really piques my interest is Warrior Shockwave. I'm sure kids will like them, and I hope they succeed in the marketplace, though I think this is another line I'll mostly skip.

News Credits: 1082 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:48 pm

Grimlock's Dino head has a very cute face! Pass all but Shockwave.

News Credits: 31 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:52 pm

JazZeke wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Shleebeef wrote:G1 is great, it brought us all these characters we love, but when are we going to get something new and exciting.

The RID Decepticons were all new and exciting. Sure, we also got Stascream, Soundwave and the Stunticons but those designs were all new and fun.

I wouldn't exactly call "robot animal stereotypes" new and exciting.

they are new and exciting to me, at least. I dropped the show after the 3rd episode, and was about to drop the toyline, until i saw that the animalistic decepticons gets an actual toy. Those beastly decepticon are what got me into RID toyline. It just feels fresh and exciting for me.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:50 pm

dragons wrote:Let's think about this for long time what does hasbro mean to someone company that makes games and toys for who kids little kids 4 to 10 year olds if you want adult transformers buy third party figures and masterpiece figures while hasbro is doing there job what they are paid to do to make toys for little kids no matter how they look because there toys are aimed and make for little kids not full grown adults how successful had rescuer hero transformers been selling for little kids that are made for kids not adults these toys are your answer hasbro makes toys for kids not adults adults buy toys that bikes, jetskies, boats, fast cars bows and arrows those are toys for adults not kids

I wish I had a dollar for every punctuation mark you didn't use.

News Credits: 4877 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:30 pm

bacem wrote:
JazZeke wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Shleebeef wrote:G1 is great, it brought us all these characters we love, but when are we going to get something new and exciting.

The RID Decepticons were all new and exciting. Sure, we also got Stascream, Soundwave and the Stunticons but those designs were all new and fun.

I wouldn't exactly call "robot animal stereotypes" new and exciting.

Those beastly decepticon are what got me into RID toyline. It just feels fresh and exciting for me.

Hell yeah, if the following is not fresh and exciting compared to Optimus being a red truck cab, Megatron being a grey tank and Bumblebee being a yellow car, then I dont know what is.

Other returning characters got fresh new looks too, like Starscream, which pays homage to previous designs while being a new design all of his own.

Even the Optimus toys were pretty fresh and new in design by comparison, incorporating the trailer ala Star Convoy. Gave a bunch of potential to Hasbro and Takara, which they didnt fail on providing.

Basically, I cant think of anything more fresh than RID this side of Beast Wars.

News Credits: 10 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:42 pm

"Animated" I considered fresh and exciting. The IDW post-war comics I consider fresh and exciting.

A robot lobster that hates land-bound robots or a robot bee queen that is vulnerable to cold are not the pinnacle of creativity.

Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:31 pm

I really hope they are going for a more Fall of Cybertron, or even G1 Grimlock than a RID or TLK :michaelbay:

Grimlock.

News Credits: 4877 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:42 pm

JazZeke wrote:"Animated" I considered fresh and exciting. The IDW post-war comics I consider fresh and exciting.

A robot lobster that hates land-bound robots or a robot bee queen that is vulnerable to cold are not the pinnacle of creativity.

We are talking about differet things then, I was only referring to designs, with this being a thread about the toyline. I am not that much into the fiction (aside from some comics but even then its not what i was referring to).

News Credits: 2 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:42 pm

Yeah these don’t look great. But if the quality on Shockwave isn’t too bad, it could make for a decent figure. A diamond among coals, so to speak. Oh and I find it neat that Grimlock takes some ques from the current IDW design. Prime does too. Too bad Generations doesn’t.

News Credits: 332 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:53 pm

I'm really excited about these figures. I think the authentics line, at least the smaller figures, go well with this line. I'm looking forward to getting them and checking out the show.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:54 pm

Nobody else has asked so I'll ask: Does Ultimate Megatron have elbows? Sure doesn't look like it.

Warrior Starscream looks to be the best figure in the line so far. The guns fixed to his arms don't bother me and he has a unique transformation (his head is in the back of the jet instead of the front) and an "ab crunch" joint as part of his transformation (which seems to be the same for all of the Warriors). My only complaint is that they didn't gang mold the blue arms with his feet and tail wings to breakup the gray.

Emerje

News Credits: 462 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:29 pm

JazZeke wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Shleebeef wrote:G1 is great, it brought us all these characters we love, but when are we going to get something new and exciting.

The RID Decepticons were all new and exciting. Sure, we also got Stascream, Soundwave and the Stunticons but those designs were all new and fun.

I wouldn't exactly call "robot animal stereotypes" new and exciting.

How is...

A New York mob boss who turns into a tractor a "deer stereotype"?
A charismatic seditionist and sub-sonics expert who turns into a made up car a "wolf stereotype"?
A rabid role play gamer who turns into a sports car a "losbster stereotype"?
An extremist anarchist who turns into an SUV a "porcupine stereotype"?
An obsessed gladiator champion who turns into an excavator a "gorilla stereotype"?
A delusional zealot who turns into a pick-up truck a "frog stereotype"?
A speed-obsessed wannabe philosopher who turns into a muscle car a "lizard stereotype"?
A rough'n'tumble cowgirl-esque treasure-seeker who turns into an SUV a "porcupine stereotype"?
The hungry, body-building braggart Underbite even stereotyping any animal in particular when he's a completely made up animal?

These guys are as much "animal stereotypes" as G1 Soundwave's and G1 Blaster's animal cassettes, and those guys even talked like the animals they were based on while these guys all speak like people.

News Credits: 7 · Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:39 pm

Ultra Starscream might be fun if those are all individual missiles rather than just two big projectiles sculpted to look like multiple missiles.

I'm confused as to why they thought the kids' line needed to be retro-G1. Is Rescue Bots going to be the only non-G1 line from here forward?

Whoever convinced the rest of the team that it was a good idea to make Transformers that only transform halfway should go into politics.

Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:00 am

the toys are one thing but the show is what interests me the most!

News Credits: 4877 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:32 am

Zeedust wrote:I'm confused as to why they thought the kids' line needed to be retro-G1. Is Rescue Bots going to be the only non-G1 line from here forward?

No, there will be a constant movie line as well, so that makes 2 non G1 lines.

News Credits: 11 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:39 am

Soooooooo... Where be Windblade? She's toted to be a main character but no toy in the first line? This feels... Odd?

Also, I knew we were getting a little G1 rehashing but... Ugh. Seriously? Transformers is so much more than the original designs. I love them a lot, but I also loved Beast Wars, Armada, and Cybertron (I'm not sure what this thing called "Energon" is?). C'mon, can we get a Hot Sh- Oh, Rescue Bots. Um, Red Alert! Jetfire! And other really awesome people.

News Credits: 4877 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:46 am

Nexus Knight wrote: (I'm not sure what this thing called "Energon" is?)

Yeah, it seems to be remembered as much as the Beast, but for those unaware, that's the line with the kick ass Scout figures, with accessories galore that you were able to combine. Its also the line with amazing decepticon toys. I am not sure that that thing called Autobots is though.

Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:07 am

Black Hat wrote:

Omg, Megatron looks like a downer.

Why the big chins again Hasbro? It's one of the biggest things I really disliked about Animated and Prime.

Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:17 am

Omg this Cyberverse line is crazy!
They overall look wacky and cheap knock off toys.

And what's with the name? Why can't they make names that make it actually easy to find stuff on ebay?

Prime, RID, Cyberverse, for the love of sanity. Make distinctive names Hasbro. And why is an Ultra a Voyager? Any of you member that it was more like:
Basic - Deluxe - Mega - Ultra - Supreme
Now they make Mega an Ultra? Hasbro pls.

On the subject: I love that Shockwave. It might be my favorite one ever. I like the Fall of Cybertron one and the Prime repaint (lighter purple) and of course Masterpiece Shockwave.
And the tankmode is cool and different (name me 5 spider tank altmodes)

And I'm really digging Kawaii Truck Optimus Ultimate class.
He looks almost like the perfect Optimus for me.
Front of the cab is actually his chest in robot mode.
I Really hate Power of the Primes Optimus, 7 fake front cabs?
Really? You couldn't give Orion a true cab? You couldn't give
the combined suit the real front cab?

Anyway, so I like the realness of his chest, I'm nitpicky at that.
A little more transformation to get the hands out would've been nice. Hope he's more of a Voyager than a Leader Class size.
Megatron looks like a Tonka Tank, like the altmode, robot mode not so much.

I really don't understand this line, but Shockwave's a win.

News Credits: 241 · Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:09 am

noctorro wrote:And what's with the name? Why can't they make names that make it actually easy to find stuff on ebay?

Prime, RID, Cyberverse, for the love of sanity. Make distinctive names Hasbro. And why is an Ultra a Voyager? Any of you member that it was more like:
Basic - Deluxe - Mega - Ultra - Supreme
Now they make Mega an Ultra? Hasbro pls.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it?

Just because a name is reused doesn't mean it should retain its original definition. I will agree it makes designating the toys harder and more confusing than it should be.

Worth noting is that like RiD2015, Cyberverse does not use any of the Size Class names from Generations. In other words, any given current Size Class can refer to only one line:

Generations
Master Class (Titan or Prime)
Legends Class
Deluxe Class
Voyager Class
Leader Class
Titan Class

Cyberverse
Scout Class
Warrior Class (reused from RiD 2015)
Ultra Class
Ultimate Class

Definitely a step up from RiD 2015, which had too many over the course of 2 to 3 years. :twisted: