The Energon Pub

ctrlFrequency wrote:*raises an eyebrow at the boys*

Ran out of a charge on my phone while trying to play through to grab us medals. Even though I'm playing through the 300 level battle zone with my teams I've been able to up their power levels. First team is close to 800 now, second team is close to 500, and third team is close to 400 or so. Not being exact. So apologies there.

Don't apologize, Dino-con. The point of the events is to help make the teams stronger.

I'm wishing I could do more to get the alliance closer to the goal, but like all things one must build up. So far though I'm starting to enjoy the game more than I thought I would though. I mean I didn't mind Battle Tactics and Legends, but Earth Wars is really growing on me.

Every little bit counts.

Plus ... double XP. Why people would pass that up is beyond me.

Burn wrote:Every little bit counts.

Plus ... double XP. Why people would pass that up is beyond me.

This is something we will be pondering until the ends of time

Well, sometimes you're in a situation where most all your guys are Level 30 or one or two levels off and you don't have the Energon to upgrade them so that double XP is worthless - that's the situation I'd be in if I didn't randomly get a 2-star Breakdown through luck. Plus it seems like due to most people playing the event, very few people will attack your base while your shields are down so any resources you get from attacking rival bases would be safe and your base won't be compromised during an attack because you're upgrading your mortars or beam lasers or turrets or whatever.
Essentially, during an event your base is almost completely safe from being attacked. I've found it very useful.

But your base is still being attacked... essentially you are handing out BPS if you're upgrading everything during an event.

And furthering your own resources instead of helping out during an event

ctrlFrequency wrote:But your base is still being attacked... essentially you are handing out BPS if you're upgrading everything during an event

Yeah, but I don't think they're actually taking Energon. In any case I'm putting the Alloy towards Walls or other utilities like Energon Storage and the Energon towards upgrading characters.
And it's not like I'm completely neglecting the event - at the time of writing this I've accrued 1,666 BP and I'm about to get more with my strongest team. It's just good to occasionally take detours because your Energon is essentially safe the whole time.

You are giving them BPS and extra xp.

It's what it boils down to. You are no more safe during an event, the impact is just less visible.


And I have twice gone resources gathering during the event, so I'm not throwing stones here, but 99% of my time is pushed for the Alliance. I'm not saying an occasional side trip is a bad thing, but spending more time resource gathering is (which I'm not accusing you of, though we do watch the leader board)

Well, I mean, I might not be more safe... but they're not really taking anything from me. It's a bit like a robber breaking into my house and stealing nothing but instead just getting three glasses of water. It's annoying, but... nothing really happened

No, it'seems exactly NOT like that. They are just not taking things you can see.

They are gaining from the lack of defense, basically if your defenses are all upgrading then they are having an easier time winning against you.

Which I'm not sure why were having this conversation, none of your defensesite are upgrading, I checked.

Got Team 2 and Team 3 begging for upgrades, so doing that while my fuel cells recharge. Also at like 30% on my phone from doing all this. Making dinner now though and going to relax before I go back into it and try to get more. I would've done this yesterday, but adulting duties called. I had to finish cleaning. Which was a whole lotta fun. No. No. Not really.

ctrlFrequency wrote:No, it'seems exactly NOT like that. They are just not taking things you can see.

They are gaining from the lack of defense, basically if your defenses are all upgrading then they are having an easier time winning against you.

Which I'm not sure why were having this conversation, none of your defensesite are upgrading, I checked.

Huh? Weird, I've got a statis mine and an energon storage upgrading. Maybe when you check a base it lags or doesn't show things in the process of being upgraded or something.
But in any case, as said, they're not taking anything from me. I don't directly lose anything like I do when normal raids take my energon. Sure, they're having a bit of an easier time taking BP, but... *shrugs* not like my base is the hardest thing in the world rn. There's a reason I have to be upgrading my defences...

Oh everyone is always upgrading one or two things, but I thought you meant a bunch of things, I saw the stasis mine and the energy storage isn't defense. Especially when your upgrade time is over a day, it is unavoidable.

If your base is easy to defeat... maybe you should look at the way Burn or Haiyo have their bases. People have trouble with their bases.

Your two's topic is reminding me why I need to get back to fighting rival players to get medals. I lost most of them from a few failed defenses before I re-ordered my base to be a bit more efficient against combating attacks while building up things, concentrating on the story/campaign, the event at hand at the moment, and the alliance wars we've had even though I was pretty weak against it.

Kurona, Shanyaun helped me improve my defense positioning actually with changing some stuff around. You can look at mine for ideas if you want. I'm the same name as I am here. You definitely want to keep your Command Center/HQ the most well defended portion of the map of course. I also included my alloy and Energon storage areas in that as well to be protected. My intent was to cut down on supply loss from raids. My walls definitely need to be upgraded still, so I'm trying to get the resources together to do that. Doesn't help that the costs go up every time you do an upgrade with it. 100,000 plus alloy, no thanks. Pain in the chassis.

ctrlFrequency wrote:Oh everyone is always upgrading one or two things, but I thought you meant a bunch of things, I saw the stasis mine and the energy storage isn't defense. Especially when your upgrade time is over a day, it is unavoidable.

If your base is easy to defeat... maybe you should look at the way Burn or Haiyo have their bases. People have trouble with their bases.

Unless I've got a ton of resources that desperately need to be used up in case I get attacked, I tend to just have two things being upgraded at a time. That way I leave one spot open for upgrading walls or things that take little time to upgrade; like if I just got up an HQ rank and I've got a new Turret or Mortar to make/upgrade. And, previously, if I had obstacles to remove (but they're all gone now).

Tyrannacon wrote:Your two's topic is reminding me why I need to get back to fighting rival players to get medals. I lost most of them from a few failed defenses before I re-ordered my base to be a bit more efficient against combating attacks while building up things, concentrating on the story/campaign, the event at hand at the moment, and the alliance wars we've had even though I was pretty weak against it.

Kurona, Shanyaun helped me improve my defense positioning actually with changing some stuff around. You can look at mine for ideas if you want. I'm the same name as I am here. You definitely want to keep your Command Center/HQ the most well defended portion of the map of course. I also included my alloy and Energon storage areas in that as well to be protected. My intent was to cut down on supply loss from raids. My walls definitely need to be upgraded still, so I'm trying to get the resources together to do that. Doesn't help that the costs go up every time you do an upgrade with it. 100,000 plus alloy, no thanks. Pain in the chassis.

At a certain point 100,000 becomes decently easy to get. Just wait till you see the requirements to upgrade a Level 30 bot... yeeeeesh. Not fun.

Tyrannacon wrote:Your two's topic is reminding me why I need to get back to fighting rival players to get medals. I lost most of them from a few failed defenses before I re-ordered my base to be a bit more efficient against combating attacks while building up things, concentrating on the story/campaign, the event at hand at the moment, and the alliance wars we've had even though I was pretty weak against it.

Kurona, Shanyaun helped me improve my defense positioning actually with changing some stuff around. You can look at mine for ideas if you want. I'm the same name as I am here. You definitely want to keep your Command Center/HQ the most well defended portion of the map of course. I also included my alloy and Energon storage areas in that as well to be protected. My intent was to cut down on supply loss from raids. My walls definitely need to be upgraded still, so I'm trying to get the resources together to do that. Doesn't help that the costs go up every time you do an upgrade with it. 100,000 plus alloy, no thanks. Pain in the chassis.

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And shock towers... they're useless on their own, but put your outposts around it and put it back by your base with maybe a beam laser behind it, you end up giving them layers of damage.

Your goal is to make it hard to get to the HQ, layer your damage so too much is hitting them than they are capable of handling.

Kurona wrote:At a certain point 100,000 becomes decently easy to get. Just wait till you see the requirements to upgrade a Level 30 bot... yeeeeesh. Not fun.

This is true. It does get much higher unfortunately. I'm kind of in the same boat when I play Star Wars Commander. I am getting attacked more often (and by higher level players no less) because the Imperials are in such a low amount. I fluctuate between medals there too. Heh.

ctrlFrequency wrote:q

And shock towers... they're useless on their own, but put your outposts around it and put it back by your base with maybe a beam laser behind it, you end up giving them layers of damage.

Your goal is to make it hard to get to the HQ, layer your damage so too much is hitting them than they are capable of handling.

Yeah. I need to figure out what I'm going to do when I get the ability to do shock towers. I actually looked at Burn's base for ideas and I was overwhelmed by it.

This is true. Your goal offensively though is to destroy that HQ of course and neutralize what you can of their defenses so you can wipe out the HQ. I've been lucky so far, but again I'm stuck in a 300 fighting zone because I'm not high enough to go into the 1000 zone yet.

Kinda wish it was possible to transfer resources or something to help fellow Alliance members out.l I think that'd be a cool thing to implement in a future update

Agreed with that sentiment a hundred percent. I know I could use it. Heh. I'm always upgrading or building.

There really shold be an alliance storage space or something. Of course, everyone should suggest it to SpaceApe so they know we are interested (i've been meaning to)

1 - You get raided during events. I've been raided on multiple occasions this weekend and my resources are nearly down to zero and have lost nearly 100 medals (I was upgrading about 4 emplacements mind you).

2 - When your bots require levelling up, you keep playing the event anyway because you're earning points for the Alliance which in turn helps earn shards which in turn helps you get (hopefully) new characters.

3 - Said it many times (and was bitching to CF about it just before the event), transferring your excess resources to a Alliance pool would be awesome. I had five builder bots all busy and my alloy maxed out. I could have transferred it the Alliance for "safe keeping", instead, I've lost most of it to raids (got raided again as typing this)

ctrlFrequency wrote:There really shold be an alliance storage space or something. Of course, everyone should suggest it to SpaceApe so they know we are interested (i've been meaning to)

I will definitely try to. Is there a specific place we need to go to do that to contact them?

Burn wrote:1 - You get raided during events. I've been raided on multiple occasions this weekend and my resources are nearly down to zero and have lost nearly 100 medals (I was upgrading about 4 emplacements mind you).

2 - When your bots require levelling up, you keep playing the event anyway because you're earning points for the Alliance which in turn helps earn shards which in turn helps you get (hopefully) new characters.

3 - Said it many times (and was bitching to CF about it just before the event), transferring your excess resources to a Alliance pool would be awesome. I had five builder bots all busy and my alloy maxed out. I could have transferred it the Alliance for "safe keeping", instead, I've lost most of it to raids (got raided again as typing this)

True. I've gone to the point today of exhausting my fuel cells and also the battery on my phone. I had to take a little breaks in between, mostly so I could make dinner tonight.