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And yet, it's not entirely off-topic for this particular thread, sadly enough. Our whole cultural idea of a robot is an expression if misanthropy, artificial humans designed to improve on supposed "flaws", and the premise of Transformers flipped this, making robots sentient aliens superior to humanity in so many ways that our species is just a few billion dumb bugs by comparison, but in a way that ultimately taught kids about empathy for those different from themselves in a lot of stories.Dr. Caelus wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:The whole planet and all the miserable sack of $hi7 people (which is everyone) on it need to be eliminated. Humanity needs a freaking reset.
Uh... that one right there, officer.
Bring it "officer". I live right to the west of the cesspool called New Orleans.
Locked and loaded with ZERO fu<&'s to give.Dr. Caelus wrote:
I thought you had kids???
I do, they and myself are included. This world is a cesspool and needs to be purged.
I had noticed your posts were getting weird a while back but I check in here so much less than I used to I didn't say anything. This is not a healthy attitude to have, and even if you're joking it's troubling that you think it's funny.
--en the day is done."Bumblevivisector wrote:"I'm a train they call the Cesspool of New Orleans,
"I'll be gone 5000 miles wh--"
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:![]()
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
TulioDude wrote:Someone said something bad of Transformers Cartoon on tv?
I don't this will mater in the long run.
Nightshade is fine, if every time they only talked about pronouns that would get repetitive, but for now the writers are doing a good job of giving them more to do.
I would wait for to happen in the story before deciding how I feel about the character.
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Dr. Caelus wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:The whole planet and all the miserable sack of $hi7 people (which is everyone) on it need to be eliminated. Humanity needs a freaking reset.
Uh... that one right there, officer.
Bring it "officer". I live right to the west of the cesspool called New Orleans.
Locked and loaded with ZERO fu<&'s to give.Dr. Caelus wrote:
I thought you had kids???
I do, they and myself are included. This world is a cesspool and needs to be purged.
I had noticed your posts were getting weird a while back but I check in here so much less than I used to I didn't say anything. This is not a healthy attitude to have, and even if you're joking it's troubling that you think it's funny.
TulioDude wrote:As someone who lives outside the US, is Megyn Kelly popular? I haven't heard of her before.
I'm asking because it seens to just a story of the day thing.
Dr. Caelus wrote:people who have more direct power/influence
Cyber Bishop wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Lore Keeper wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:The whole planet and all the miserable sack of $hi7 people (which is everyone) on it need to be eliminated. Humanity needs a freaking reset.
Uh... that one right there, officer.
Bring it "officer". I live right to the west of the cesspool called New Orleans.
Locked and loaded with ZERO fu<&'s to give.Dr. Caelus wrote:
I thought you had kids???
I do, they and myself are included. This world is a cesspool and needs to be purged.
I had noticed your posts were getting weird a while back but I check in here so much less than I used to I didn't say anything. This is not a healthy attitude to have, and even if you're joking it's troubling that you think it's funny.
No joking at all, never claimed to be joking and dont think it is funny. Don't tell me about a fu<&ing healthy attitude in this $h1t society we live in. People are horrible plain and simple. Don't preach to me either.
Cyber Bishop wrote:And for the record I have never played well with others, never will and when $hit goes south I'll be one of the ones that survives because I can/will and have to do whatever it takes to survive regardless who I have to take out on the way.
Dr. Caelus wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:And for the record I have never played well with others, never will and when $hit goes south I'll be one of the ones that survives because I can/will and have to do whatever it takes to survive regardless who I have to take out on the way.
You're posting on a website devoted to toy collecting.
or stop pretending you're an edgy nihilist sigma male or whatever it is you think you've got going on these days.
Cyber Bishop wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:And for the record I have never played well with others, never will and when $hit goes south I'll be one of the ones that survives because I can/will and have to do whatever it takes to survive regardless who I have to take out on the way.
You're posting on a website devoted to toy collecting.
In a place and a thread where so many others bring their sociopolitical crap that doesn't belong on a toy collecting website. I am a lot older and cynical than I used to be as the 50's have been rough.
Dr. Caelus wrote:Mostly it's just the big Tyler Durden ripoff monologue would be cringe humor as it is, but with toy ads posted all around it it just looks kind of sad.
Burn wrote:Hey look! Small pointless matter about something that doesn't really harm anyone has blown out of proportion!
Whodathunkit?
Except it's not small and pointless. It's forced to become part of every day life for everyone by those who advocate for it with disregard of anyone else.Burn wrote:Hey look! Small pointless matter about something that doesn't really harm anyone has blown out of proportion!
Whodathunkit?
FWIW, your comments sort of dug a nihilistic trench that might serve as a firebreak, so it'll be interesting to see if this thread doesn't go all the way to hell. Thanks C.B.Cyber Bishop wrote:Burn wrote:Hey look! Small pointless matter about something that doesn't really harm anyone has blown out of proportion!
Whodathunkit?
My issue isn't with this show its society & people. On that note I am out.
o.supreme wrote:Until now. I've chosen to stay out of this thread because I'm just not fond of this show. I gave it a chance and its not for me. However Its not like I wish it not to exist. I dont worry about what I can't control.
However the news obviously was posted by a member of this site, so then conversation surrounding it has been given a greenlight. That's my interpretation at least.
Those that know me, know I am apolitical. I believe no human can govern competently, so I look to a close knit community of friends and those that share my faith for inspiration and encouragement, which has served me well.
AS for the obvious subject of Transgenderism that this show has decided to incorporate into itself. Well... it is what it is. Conservative Media (Like Liberal Media) will latch on to something, albeit a bit late to the party, it will make the rounds with all the talking heads, then be gone just as quickly as it came then move on to the next outrage.
AS for me personally, my kids are too old to care about this show, if not for me as a Transformers Fan, they wouldn't even know it exists. If however, we wound back the clocks a decade, and this was in their demo, They wouldn't watch it. It's not that I am so personally offended or outraged, it's just that I believe it is a very odd message to put in a show aimed at children.
Sure this is a show about fictional robots, so one could argue that they can literally be anything they want to be, but it is still an odd choice, considering (one would assume) these robots are not sexual in nature despite obviously having male and female personalities. That being said, I'm not going to tell anyone they cant watch it, or that they shouldn't let their kids watch. It seems to have an overall positive vibe and positive response from the fan community. However, everyone has to make the that decision for themselves. Personally, as I watched my young son grow up, and be enthralled by Rescue Bots in it's first couple of seasons, I really miss shows like that. Just My 2 cents.
NeonPrime wrote:Earthspark is generally geared toward a younger audience that is impressionable and not ready for more mature gray/blurred ideas like pronouns. Personally, it does seem like woke grooming and I totally understand any parental outrage.
NeonPrime wrote:I watched the news clip a day or so ago and was wondering if or when there'd be a thread, lol.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:My issue with Earthspark and I'll admit I'm not as caught up on the show as I should be, is that having a character make an issue about pronouns is clearly trying to bring the larger debate to a kids' show, that's something I'm not OK with as it's taking decision making authority from parents over what they want their kids to know and when.
Slashercon wrote::roll: Major Rant incoming (Since We decided we had to make a news article that clearly talks about politics, don't be surprised that I talk about politics. )
You know, I generally watch/play/read media to ESCAPE the real-world/overly political side of things. I watched up to maybe episode 4 of Earthspark (a show which I wasn't entirely enjoying to be honest) before I said I'd take a break. Found out a while later that Nightshade fell into the political vat, and I decided the show wasn't worth my time. It doesn't matter how you try to spin it in the show about how it "makes sense", because it's the year 2023, and I know the real-world reason why it's being done. Of course adding identity- politics into a show which, let's be honest, the target demographic being children, I find to be underhanded. It's not just Transformers either; many cartoons, comics, games, movies, etc. of ESTABLISHED IPS have more or less been up-ended for "modern" audiences, and said IPs (and the fans that made them what they are) are the ones that suffer in quality and/or revenue. I sure most will see it as innocent and don't see the harm in a sentient robot referring to himself as "they" (even though grammatically it's disingenuous), but it more or less tells kids that this type of behavior is acceptable. I know a lot of parents who are just tired of having identity politics entrenched in their kids' entertainment (even education), and even adults who steer clear of media with it now.
In the end, all I'll say, is keep identity-politics out of entertainment.
Also, I would respectfully request that we refrain from bringing up topics like this again in the future, since I know people on both sides can be very "passionate" about their views, and civil discussions aren't always on the minds of most who wander on the forums.
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