The Energon Pub

Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:22 pm

Wow Sabrblade, you rock with the quick response. Fantastic getting to look through those and compare. Wow, the colors got funky there for a bit.

Crazy to say, I have all those but one. Guess I need to get on that....

News Credits: 462 · Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:26 pm

gothsaurus wrote:Crazy to say, I have all those but one. Guess I need to get on that....

Bet it's obvious which one that is.

Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:48 pm

Ha. Yeah, I'll get around to it... eventually.

Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:19 pm

Mkall wrote:G2 Bruticus or bust!

Seconded. I don't mind if it's Fall of Cybertron, Fansproject, Energon, PCC or new Classics-esque mold, I'll take any version of my favorite combiner in those awful, beautifully awful colors.

I am aware, and do have the Micromaster-homaged remolds FP did, but I prefer to keep them as Micromaster characters instead of limbs. That way the molds get maximum viewing potential :3

Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:33 pm

gothsaurus wrote:
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AAAAND vortex in gray/blue. Great repaint, and better choice for Vortex, IMHO.

Thoughts?

I think you got the G1 look better than mine on page 20. Looking back, I think my Vortex looks G2.

Your take on BlastOff/Shockwave is pretty similar. With some tweaks on the mold Shockwave really could look slick.

Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:32 pm

Wow the sheer number of people who are okay with this, even talking about repaints...

Is it any wonder Hasbro thinks they can push whatever they want on us?

News Credits: 1 · Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:44 pm

Well, now.

Don't hate them, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to hop onboard the 'dislike Vortex and Blast-Off's colors' bandwagon. Like someone said; I look at Vortex, squint, and I just see Razorclaw. Blast-Off looks to be incredibly GOLD, though I'm well familiar with how Hasbro's photos are touched up to be all shiny, and such. He'll look better in person, but it'll still feel off.

Well, I'm not worried. That's what Takara are for, after all. We'll have a chromed-out G1-colored FOC Bruticus within a year, people. Start saving.

Also pretty sure Bruticus is mistransformed, so I'll hold off on my verdict on the full figure until such a time arrives.

Color hit or miss aside, it's still magnificent to see Vortex and Blast-Off given some love again after so long.

News Credits: 402 · Updated Oct 21, 2022

Vicalliose wrote:Wow the sheer number of people who are okay with this, even talking about repaints...

Is it any wonder Hasbro thinks they can push whatever they want on us?

[joker]Why so cynical?[/joker]

It's the first true combiner Hasbro's released since Energon. Is it any wonder people are excited?

News Credits: 11 · Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:06 am

Seeing all those Bruticus pics made me slightly sad I sold all my PCCS.

Oh well!

Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:09 am

Mkall wrote:
Vicalliose wrote:Wow the sheer number of people who are okay with this, even talking about repaints...

Is it any wonder Hasbro thinks they can push whatever they want on us?

[joker]Why so cynical?[/joker]

It's the first true combiner Hasbro's released since Energon. Is it any wonder people are excited?

I'm (almost) always cynical. I thought people would have gotten that by now...

Still, considering FoC is little more than a video game, that won't draw anywhere near as big a crowd as the show, I'm quit confused as to why they even bothered. Unless of course they were actually appealing to collectors, in which case they failed miserably, or at least they should.

I'm just astonished that they fail so hard at engineering these things every single time. Even now when they aren't loading it up with a gimmick they still screw it up. Granted, they were working off of a concept that is almost physically impossible. Though they screwed up a few of the separate figures in design, clearly so that they could "play it safe". Swindle's vehicle mode is too short for one, but I doubt it would have been such a stretch for the combination port to be on the other side and for his hood chest to somehow hinge down to form the foot, just as an example. The arms should both have a way of hinging the shoulder port down so they don't hang like gorilla arms.

Ugh, I'm being kind of unrealistic to a degree. But seriously, if they actually tried, they could do much better than this.

Also, stop bickering about the colors. Compared to everything else you could complain about, that's... it's just dumb.

Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:50 am

Vicalliose wrote:I'm (almost) always cynical. I thought people would have gotten that by now...

Still, considering FoC is little more than a video game, that won't draw anywhere near as big a crowd as the show, I'm quit confused as to why they even bothered. Unless of course they were actually appealing to collectors, in which case they failed miserably, or at least they should.

I'm just astonished that they fail so hard at engineering these things every single time. Even now when they aren't loading it up with a gimmick they still screw it up. Granted, they were working off of a concept that is almost physically impossible. Though they screwed up a few of the separate figures in design, clearly so that they could "play it safe". Swindle's vehicle mode is too short for one, but I doubt it would have been such a stretch for the combination port to be on the other side and for his hood chest to somehow hinge down to form the foot, just as an example. The arms should both have a way of hinging the shoulder port down so they don't hang like gorilla arms.

Ugh, I'm being kind of unrealistic to a degree. But seriously, if they actually tried, they could do much better than this.

Also, stop bickering about the colors. Compared to everything else you could complain about, that's... it's just dumb.

I'm sure its like most other things that are really commercial. They have tight deadlines to make the figures, from concept to getting it on the shelves. And just like video games, they often miss opportunities just coz of the deadlines. I mean, realistically, thats about all I can chalk it up to. A lack of time. Add to that the fact that their figure designers might go from good to meh to good to meh (unlike 3rd party makers who pretty much "make it" by designing and engineering really slick designs themselves).

And to be fair, these figures have a TON of detail. The combined form might look crappy (maybe just for now), but each part of each figure is just smack full of crazy designs and details.

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:37 am

Yeah, I'm excited because I'm COUNTING on that long-armed photo being mistransformed.

Else, I'm excited about individual bots. (??)

And thanks for the reminder. I bet we can count on a correctly colored Takara version. I'll be getting that one, or at least the gray Vortex.

Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:59 am

Maybe we should wait to criticize these until someone actually has them in hand? Just a thought.

What Hasbro can do to make a figure look terrible, Seibertron can do the opposite to make them look amazing.

Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:13 am

Well spoken. I'm actually really optimistic about these... and the whole line really. Knowing there's a GOOD chance of getting a Shockwave retool.... makes me wonder what those other 4 bots might have in store with a little head swap.

Ideas?

News Credits: 402 · Updated Oct 21, 2022

gothsaurus wrote:Well spoken. I'm actually really optimistic about these... and the whole line really. Knowing there's a GOOD chance of getting a Shockwave retool.... makes me wonder what those other 4 bots might have in store with a little head swap.

Ideas?

I think shockwave isn't going to be a retool. I bet he'll be getting his own mold.

Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:19 am

gothsaurus wrote:Well spoken. I'm actually really optimistic about these... and the whole line really. Knowing there's a GOOD chance of getting a Shockwave retool.... makes me wonder what those other 4 bots might have in store with a little head swap.

Ideas?

But why would they need a Shockwave retool? There's already a Shockwave figure coming out in the same wave (along with the new Optimus and Jazz)!

News Credits: 462 · Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:32 am

Gearslide wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Well spoken. I'm actually really optimistic about these... and the whole line really. Knowing there's a GOOD chance of getting a Shockwave retool.... makes me wonder what those other 4 bots might have in store with a little head swap.

Ideas?

But why would they need a Shockwave retool? There's already a Shockwave figure coming out in the same wave (along with the new Optimus and Jazz)!

Yeah, why retool Blast Off into Shockwave when there's this design to be made?

Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:34 am

Still.... I TOTALLY think they'll repaint this one SOMETIME. Cripes. Just LOOK at it! It's more Cybertron-mode Shockwave than any Combaticon design. Who has a chest like that but ole Shockwave.

Ah well. Time will tell. If they don't, Botcon will. :-D

Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:38 am

Gads, I hope they DO give that one to us. I'll take one Voyager, please. Hold the ketchup.

News Credits: 462 · Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:40 am

gothsaurus wrote:Gads, I hope they DO give that one to us. I'll take one Voyager, please. Hold the ketchup.

Generations = Deluxe. :-|

Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:57 am

Yeah, I know. I'm dreamin'. I'd lurve to see a voyager Prime, Megs, Shockwave... I guess Ultra Magnus to counter Shockwave? Galvatron retool? Who else.....

Yeah, now my imagination is REALLY running away. Still sad they can't find a place to shoe-horn these into their lineup. They look amazing, and having them a bit larger would make for a stunning shelf... and more money for Hasbro.

News Credits: 409 · Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:58 pm

Mkall wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Well spoken. I'm actually really optimistic about these... and the whole line really. Knowing there's a GOOD chance of getting a Shockwave retool.... makes me wonder what those other 4 bots might have in store with a little head swap.

Ideas?

I think shockwave isn't going to be a retool. I bet he'll be getting his own mold.

I agree.

News Credits: 251 · Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:33 am

Raise your hand if you think that with the exception of Blast Off, this picture makes the Toy Fair version look like 5 pieces of crap that combine to make a bigger piece of crap with arms and legs.

News Credits: 16 · Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:19 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
gothsaurus wrote:Really, this IS a really nice uniform paint job. Might even be my favorite of the six, especially combined.
Let's compare.

And as a bonus...