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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 18, 2015 7:04 pm

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I'm OK with Quickslinger sharing the same body and vehicle mode with Firefly because all of the Aerialbot limbs were relatively similar vehicle and robot mode whereas the Stunticons were more distinct.


That is exactly how I felt and what I was trying to get across when we last spoke about this. It's why I went the takara route for Superion but stuck to the retail hasbro releases for Menasor. The Stunticons being all different from one another creates a better sense of uniformity in a way.

fenrir72 wrote:Small issue ayway but the card art on Dragstrip still rendered him with 6 wheels. Wished HasTak could have recreated that.


Oh man, you got them eagle eyes!

And friends, now that I have Hasbro's Menasor, I played with every configuration and this is my ideal formation:

Right Arm: drag strip
Left arm: Breakdown
Right Leg: Offroad
Left Leg: Deadend

Like that, the bright colours are spread more evenly around Menasor while the grey and white limbs end up at complete opposite ends. And I prefer Dead End as a leg because you are able to lift his hood up creating a knee pad which mirrors the kneepad effect of Offroad as a leg, creating a better uniformity in the legs.

Which is your ideal formation?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon May 18, 2015 8:00 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
I'm OK with Quickslinger sharing the same body and vehicle mode with Firefly because all of the Aerialbot limbs were relatively similar vehicle and robot mode whereas the Stunticons were more distinct.


That is exactly how I felt and what I was trying to get across when we last spoke about this. It's why I went the takara route for Superion but stuck to the retail hasbro releases for Menasor. The Stunticons being all different from one another creates a better sense of uniformity in a way.

fenrir72 wrote:Small issue ayway but the card art on Dragstrip still rendered him with 6 wheels. Wished HasTak could have recreated that.


Oh man, you got them eagle eyes!

And friends, now that I have Hasbro's Menasor, I played with every configuration and this is my ideal formation:

Right Arm: drag strip
Left arm: Breakdown
Right Leg: Offroad
Left Leg: Deadend

Like that, the bright colours are spread more evenly around Menasor while the grey and white limbs end up at complete opposite ends. And I prefer Dead End as a leg because you are able to lift his hood up creating a knee pad which mirrors the kneepad effect of Offroad as a leg, creating a better uniformity in the legs.

Which is your ideal formation?


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon May 18, 2015 8:10 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Like this?

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Question or statement?

Because you actually can't achieve that pose with Menasor since the knee joints block when the legs face that way (with the top of the cars in the back). Do you have an actual picture of your Menasor to share?

Also, speaking of Menasor, look at how horribly transformed Dead End is (among others) as a leg in this pic, his head is sticking out!

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby LegendaryAntiHero » Mon May 18, 2015 8:11 pm

It'd be great if Hasbro worked on Combiners having cool looking combined modes first before working on the robot or vehicle modes
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Mon May 18, 2015 8:19 pm

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LegendaryAntiHero wrote:It'd be great if Hasbro worked on Combiners having cool looking combined modes first before working on the robot or vehicle modes

They did that with devastator and look at the backlash that's getting.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAcast » Mon May 18, 2015 8:29 pm

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LegendaryAntiHero wrote:It'd be great if Hasbro worked on Combiners having cool looking combined modes first before working on the robot or vehicle modes

They did that with devastator and look at the backlash that's getting.

Except that everyone's still going to buy it, because it really is quite good. I mean, FoC Bruticus is flawed like crazy, but people bought it several times just because we knew putting money in Hasbro's pockets over a combiner was going to lead to the combiners we really wanted.

Thankfully, that gamble paid off for the fanbase. :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon May 18, 2015 8:48 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
And friends, now that I have Hasbro's Menasor, I played with every configuration and this is my ideal formation:

Right Arm: drag strip
Left arm: Breakdown
Right Leg: Offroad
Left Leg: Deadend

Like that, the bright colours are spread more evenly around Menasor while the grey and white limbs end up at complete opposite ends. And I prefer Dead End as a leg because you are able to lift his hood up creating a knee pad which mirrors the kneepad effect of Offroad as a leg, creating a better uniformity in the legs.

Which is your ideal formation?

I too like the knee pad design with Dead End as a leg. Mind you I keep to the official placement of Offroad as a left leg and simply swap Dead End and Breakdown, but it still looks really good. Plus, the kneepads hide the Motormaster feet, so it actually looks like Menasor has legs and not stilts :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Mon May 18, 2015 9:07 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Also, speaking of Menasor, look at how horribly transformed Dead End is (among others) as a leg in this pic, his head is sticking out!

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Mon May 18, 2015 9:24 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby peaces » Tue May 19, 2015 7:04 am

cw menasor is the best tf ever
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby munkimus prime » Tue May 19, 2015 7:12 am

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peaces wrote:cw menasor is the best tf ever

Indeed it is. :P
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue May 19, 2015 7:12 am

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peaces wrote:cw menasor is the best tf ever


I just got him and with the recency effect at it's full power right now, I am likely to agree :) I love this toy as a whole. He is imposing, solid, fun and just looks great! I do not like Breakdown as an individual robot though, his lower half leaves a lot to be desired (take that statement as you wish). I can't wait to get more combiners as the year continues (waiting for the Takara releases of Superion and Defensor).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Genericon #378 » Tue May 19, 2015 7:18 am

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william-james88 wrote:
peaces wrote:cw menasor is the best tf ever


I just got him and with the recency effect at it's full power right now, I am likely to agree :) I love this toy as a whole. He is imposing, solid, fun and just looks great! I do not like Breakdown as an individual robot though, his lower half leaves a lot to be desired (take that statement as you wish). I can't wait to get more combiners as the year continues (waiting for the Takara releases of Superion and Defensor).

I can't give any opinions about Menasor, since I don't have Motormaster or Blackjack, but I can say that the limbs are very impressive, especially Dead End. I will say, in the promo the legs looked like a mess to me, but now they've grown on me with all the different configurations.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue May 19, 2015 7:21 am

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william-james88 wrote:
peaces wrote:cw menasor is the best tf ever


I just got him and with the recency effect at it's full power right now, I am likely to agree :) I love this toy as a whole. He is imposing, solid, fun and just looks great! I do not like Breakdown as an individual robot though, his lower half leaves a lot to be desired (take that statement as you wish). I can't wait to get more combiners as the year continues (waiting for the Takara releases of Superion and Defensor).

I can't give any opinions about Menasor, since I don't have Motormaster or Blackjack, but I can say that the limbs are very impressive, especially Dead End. I will say, in the promo the legs looked like a mess to me, but now they've grown on me with all the different configurations.


I hope you get Motormaster soon (you dont need blackjack to experience the combiner, he's more of a decoration), you will have so much fun!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Genericon #378 » Tue May 19, 2015 7:24 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Genericon #378 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
peaces wrote:cw menasor is the best tf ever


I just got him and with the recency effect at it's full power right now, I am likely to agree :) I love this toy as a whole. He is imposing, solid, fun and just looks great! I do not like Breakdown as an individual robot though, his lower half leaves a lot to be desired (take that statement as you wish). I can't wait to get more combiners as the year continues (waiting for the Takara releases of Superion and Defensor).

I can't give any opinions about Menasor, since I don't have Motormaster or Blackjack, but I can say that the limbs are very impressive, especially Dead End. I will say, in the promo the legs looked like a mess to me, but now they've grown on me with all the different configurations.


I hope you get Motormaster soon (you dont need blackjack to experience the combiner, he's more of a decoration), you will have so much fun.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby peaces » Tue May 19, 2015 7:27 am

blackjack on the chest is so bad ass. especially in the non-official configurations. i silver sharpie'd his wheel rims and he looks sick. the purple wing on his chest looks kinda silly as it's too small.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Genericon #378 » Tue May 19, 2015 7:29 am

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peaces wrote:blackjack on the chest is so bad ass. especially in the non-official configurations. i silver sharpie'd his wheel rims and he looks sick. the purple wing on his chest looks kinda silly as it's too small.

If they engineered Blackjack's axe to be a swordguard or whatever those are called for Menasor's sword, that would be so awesome!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby peaces » Tue May 19, 2015 7:30 am

people have reported that motormaster hasn't been showing up at retail for quite some time now. i guess you can't even get him online now? the takara version might be the only way.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue May 19, 2015 7:47 am

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I couldn't be more happy with both Menasor and Superion. It's been a very exciting past few months. Drag Strip is still my favorite Stunticon. This is just me, but Dead End is my least favorite.

Dead End has been getting a lot of praise. I'd like to hear what everyone likes so much about him. Not being a Negative Nancy here, just genuinely curious.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Tue May 19, 2015 7:48 am

I'd been searching for Motormaster for weeks... and a friend gave me the heads up it was at our local Kroger. I found it marked down to six bux. :^0 :KREMZEEK:

I'm still searching for my ideal transformation, but I DO think I like his legs simply straight down (instead of making hips of sorts). Stretching out the torso seems to make better proportions to my eyes. I also think I like the smaller bots to the top (ie. Drag Strip especially.)

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby peaces » Tue May 19, 2015 7:56 am

dead end looks really good in every mode. the same can't be said for breakdown.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue May 19, 2015 8:00 am

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peaces wrote:people have reported that motormaster hasn't been showing up at retail for quite some time now. i guess you can't even get him online now? the takara version might be the only way.


Come on man, would you stop scaring people like that. You said that about Blackjack too and it was false. Just because you haven't seen him and heard similar stories from some people doesn't mean he is sold out everywhere and will never come again. People who dont find him will obviously talk online while those who found him are too busy enjoying him and dont feel the need to report they have him. We have an entire sightings section on this site, so people can just go to their state or country and see what's up. Motormaster just started appearing in Canada and north american saturation is just starting, so calm down.

And you can't find him online!? Would you please check before you post statements like that. A quick search revealed he is on amazon near retail price and eligible for prime: http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Generations-Combiner-Voyager-Motormaster/dp/B00NYSSOTO/ref=sr_1_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1432043587&sr=1-1&keywords=motormaster

So calm down.

To those who havent seen motormaster in stores yet, just wait a bit, he will surely turn up. Or you can always click on the link above if you want to make sure you dont miss out.


Now, back to the conversation. Cobotron, what I think people really like about Dead End is the super slick vehicle and the fun transformation. The legs flipping is a nice homage to his G1 transformation and I really like the red plastic they used for the car. I don't like the headsculpt too much though and I find the stubby feet not too pleasing. But I prefer those barely sculpted feet to Breakdown who's articulated feet are brought down by the uneven ports attached to his ankles, which look super clumsy. Also, Dead End fits nice and tight in vehicle mode, which is something I can't say for Breakdown, who's back always keeps splitting.

My favourite deluxe stunticon is Dragstrip too but they all pale in comparison to the gorgeous motormaster, who is my favourite stuncticon.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Tue May 19, 2015 8:11 am

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Cobotron wrote:I couldn't be more happy with both Menasor and Superion. It's been a very exciting past few months. Drag Strip is still my favorite Stunticon. This is just me, but Dead End is my least favorite.

Dead End has been getting a lot of praise. I'd like to hear what everyone likes so much about him. Not being a Negative Nancy here, just genuinely curious.

I can sort of see where you're coming from. Dead End is my third favorite of the Stunticon limbs. He has a great looking alt-mode and an interesting transformation, but getting his legs to peg in correctly can be a bit of a hassle (same is true for Streetwise). Not sure if it's just my figure, but his hands aren't capable of holding his foot/hand weapon either.

Dragstrip is probably the most solid of the limbs, but I'm quite taken with Off Road and his awesome headsculpt. Breakdown is a bit of a disappointment. His alt-mode looks great, but getting everything pegged correctly can be frustrating, and his hips are just awful.

I have to admit that I like the Protectobot versions of the Off Road and Dead End molds better than the originals. The joints are a bit tighter and they feel less sloppy overall.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Tue May 19, 2015 8:12 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Like this?

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Question or statement?

Because you actually can't achieve that pose with Menasor since the knee joints block when the legs face that way (with the top of the cars in the back). Do you have an actual picture of your Menasor to share?

Also, speaking of Menasor, look at how horribly transformed Dead End is (among others) as a leg in this pic, his head is sticking out!

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