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by **peaces** » Tue May 19, 2015 9:27 am

i think wave 1 was stuck in the strike. and thats why we see a flood of wave 1 at retail now.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:12 am

MrBlack wrote: I'm quite taken with Off Road and his awesome headsculpt.

You know what, It's kind of a toss up between Dragstrip and Off Road, as far as "my favorite" goes.
I by no means hate Dead End. I do really like his Alt mode, heck I even gave him an unofficial flight mode. His robot mode, esthetically is just sloppy to me. He almost has a boarder line movie esthetic ( which I won't go into :lol:

). He is still a fun toy to play with.

I'm surprised that Breakdown gets so much flak. Out of all the Stuntipunks he is, esthetically, the most Geewonese. I agree his engineering is wonky at best, but his head sculpt is great. It looks just like the old G1 head/combiner peg.

I feel like making a Willy list, just for fun.

Fav to least fav:
1 Dragstrip
2 Off Road
3 Motormaster
4 Breakdown
5 Dead End

and as far as configuration:
DS - R arm
OR - L arm
BD - R leg
DE - L leg

I like having the hoods of the sports cars flipped up as knee pads. I love Off Road as an arm because the hood makes a cool shoulder.
Off course, I'm SCRAMBLE CRAZY, so it could all change at any second. :lol:

News Credits: 1 · by **Puhonix** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:19 am

Personally, I decided on getting Offroad instead of Brake-Neck, I just didn't want another repeated mold, and Offroad seems to fit in with the Stunticons, as opposed to Alpha Bravo that just broke up the continuity of the jets. Which brings me to my question: When and where will Quickslinger be available? I missed out the original Amazon offering last week.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:19 am

Cobotron wrote:I'm surprised that Breakdown gets so much flak. Out of all the Stuntipunks he is, aesthetically, the most Geewonese.

Keep in mind, that's not necessarily a positive.

I have Drag Strip, Brake-Neck, and Motormaster - none of the wave 2 Stunticons have shown up in my area, but the ones I have, I LOVE.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:35 am

Puhonix wrote:Personally, I decided on getting Offroad instead of Brake-Neck, I just didn't want another repeated mold, and Offroad seems to fit in with the Stunticons, as opposed to Alpha Bravo that just broke up the continuity of the jets. Which brings me to my question: When and where will Quickslinger be available? I missed out the original Amazon offering last week.

I think we'll end up seeing Brake-Neck (I would consider getting him, Offroad or not - he's awesome) and Quicklsinger at BBTS and other online retailers.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:37 am

megatronus wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm surprised that Breakdown gets so much flak. Out of all the Stuntipunks he is, aesthetically, the most Geewonese.

Keep in mind, that's not necessarily a positive.

Oh I know. I'm no purist myself.

megatronus wrote:I have Drag Strip, Brake-Neck, and Motormaster - none of the wave 2 Stunticons have shown up in my area, but the ones I have, I LOVE.

They will come. They have to. Check this wonkieness. I have yet to see Wave 2 Deluxes anywhere at retail. I was lucky to find MM. There is a Target I frequent. I have never seen any CW toys there until the other day I found wave 3 Legends!?!? Luckily there is another Target 4 miles away who has had a lot, but no W2 Ds.

MegaT, your in the Apple so I bet you will find them soon. The problem with being in NYC, I bet, is collector competition.

News Credits: 1 · by **Puhonix** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:51 am

Cobotron wrote:MegaT, your in the Apple so I bet you will find them soon. The problem with being in NYC, I bet, is collector competition.

Does anyone need a Megatron? My local Walmart has two of each sitting on the shelves. I can help out.

by **peaces** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:52 am

most people aren't purists. it just seems that way cause they're loud and annoying.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Tue May 19, 2015 10:57 am

Cobotron wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Cobotron wrote:I'm surprised that Breakdown gets so much flak. Out of all the Stuntipunks he is, aesthetically, the most Geewonese.

Keep in mind, that's not necessarily a positive.
Oh I know. I'm no purist myself.

megatronus wrote:I have Drag Strip, Brake-Neck, and Motormaster - none of the wave 2 Stunticons have shown up in my area, but the ones I have, I LOVE.
They will come. They have to. Check this wonkieness. I have yet to see Wave 2 Deluxes anywhere at retail. I was lucky to find MM. There is a Target I frequent. I have never seen any CW toys there until the other day I found wave 3 Legends!?!? Luckily there is another Target 4 miles away who has had a lot, but no W2 Ds.

MegaT, your in the Apple so I bet you will find them soon. The problem with being in NYC, I bet, is collector competition.

Oh, competition is definitely present. Looking at you, mooncake!!!

One of the problems with a place like NYC is product saturation. Thankfully, there are 3 Targets and 3 TRUs in the NYC-area that are easily accessible to me. I'm not sure about TRU, but all 3 Targets receive product from the same localized distribution center, so if, for example they have a backlog of Wave 1 in the distribution center, all 3 stores will end up with the same product for months.

Same idea (though somewhat different in execution) with TRU Times Square, the store I visit the most often (thank goodness for price match). Because the Transformers display is so massive (I know, I shouldn't complain), and sell-through might take a very long time, they will occasionally skip a wave altogether, or end up putting things out on the shelves months after it shows up everywhere else.

I'm not too worried - things will show up here eventually. And if they don't, I'll buy online. But I must say I'm quite jealous of the folks who have wave 2 or are already seeing wave 3 at retail!

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:01 am

megatronus wrote:
Puhonix wrote:Personally, I decided on getting Offroad instead of Brake-Neck, I just didn't want another repeated mold, and Offroad seems to fit in with the Stunticons, as opposed to Alpha Bravo that just broke up the continuity of the jets. Which brings me to my question: When and where will Quickslinger be available? I missed out the original Amazon offering last week.

I think we'll end up seeing Brake-Neck (I would consider getting him, Offroad or not - he's awesome) and Quicklsinger at BBTS and other online retailers.

According to Hasbro Combiner Wars Combine Together blurb, Slingshot and Wildrider will be available online 22nd May (this Friday)

News Credits: 1 · by **Puhonix** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:04 am

leokearon wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Puhonix wrote:Personally, I decided on getting Offroad instead of Brake-Neck, I just didn't want another repeated mold, and Offroad seems to fit in with the Stunticons, as opposed to Alpha Bravo that just broke up the continuity of the jets. Which brings me to my question: When and where will Quickslinger be available? I missed out the original Amazon offering last week.

I think we'll end up seeing Brake-Neck (I would consider getting him, Offroad or not - he's awesome) and Quicklsinger at BBTS and other online retailers.

According to Hasbro Combiner Wars Combine Together blurb, Slingshot and Wildrider will be available online 22nd May (this Friday)

EXCELLENT!!! All the usual suspects? Target, Walmart, BBTS, Toys R Us? I remember someone posting that HTS will not carry them immediately, is that right?

News Credits: 3 · by **MrBlack** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:04 am

leokearon wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Puhonix wrote:Personally, I decided on getting Offroad instead of Brake-Neck, I just didn't want another repeated mold, and Offroad seems to fit in with the Stunticons, as opposed to Alpha Bravo that just broke up the continuity of the jets. Which brings me to my question: When and where will Quickslinger be available? I missed out the original Amazon offering last week.

I think we'll end up seeing Brake-Neck (I would consider getting him, Offroad or not - he's awesome) and Quicklsinger at BBTS and other online retailers.

According to Hasbro Combiner Wars Combine Together blurb, Slingshot and Wildrider will be available online 22nd May (this Friday)

They were both up on Walmart.com this morning as well, but it looks like they've since sold out.

by **gothsaurus** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:08 am

I'm actually kinda curious to see this dude with TWO gray legs. (oid guy and new guy as legs.) ... and maybe blue and burgundy arms... an all dark, matchy-matchy Menasor. Hmmmm.

Clearly I have some homework to do

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:12 am

peaces wrote:most people aren't purists. it just seems that way cause they're loud and annoying.

It's funny 'cause it's true.

I have never seen distribution this strange in all my years, and I have lived in many cities since I've been collecting. I know the port strike has a lot to do with it, but have retailers changed their ways or something? I mean the distro for CW is just all over the place.

News Credits: 18 · by **leokearon** » Tue May 19, 2015 11:30 am

Puhonix wrote:
leokearon wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Puhonix wrote:Personally, I decided on getting Offroad instead of Brake-Neck, I just didn't want another repeated mold, and Offroad seems to fit in with the Stunticons, as opposed to Alpha Bravo that just broke up the continuity of the jets. Which brings me to my question: When and where will Quickslinger be available? I missed out the original Amazon offering last week.

I think we'll end up seeing Brake-Neck (I would consider getting him, Offroad or not - he's awesome) and Quicklsinger at BBTS and other online retailers.

According to Hasbro Combiner Wars Combine Together blurb, Slingshot and Wildrider will be available online 22nd May (this Friday)

EXCELLENT!!! All the usual suspects? Target, Walmart, BBTS, Toys R Us? I remember someone posting that HTS will not carry them immediately, is that right?

This is what Hasbro said

May 22 – AERIALBOT QUICKSLINGER and STUNTICON BRAKE-NECK will be available exclusively through participating online retailers, such as Amazon.com, Walmart.com, Target.com, ToysRUs.com, Entertainment Earth, BigBadToyStore, Diamond Comics and Hasbro Toy Shop. With these two new figures, fans are finally able to complete their G1-accurate SUPERION and MENAOR figures! In addition to these all-new toys, several vendors will be running special promotions on TRANSFORMERS GENERATIONS: COMBINER WARS figures, providing fans with an ideal way to complete their collections.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 19, 2015 12:00 pm

Puhonix wrote:Personally, I decided on getting Offroad instead of Brake-Neck, I just didn't want another repeated mold, and Offroad seems to fit in with the Stunticons, as opposed to Alpha Bravo that just broke up the continuity of the jets. Which brings me to my question: When and where will Quickslinger be available? I missed out the original Amazon offering last week.

They will be more and more available as the 22nd of May date draws near. They are already listed at Walmart: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Transformers-Generations-Combiner-Wars-Deluxe-Class-Quickslinger/44723853

So bookmark that link to get it once it gets back in stock.

fenrir72 wrote:Question. So this combo is just as stable as the original G1 version? 'cause I don't own the latest incarnation just yet.

Here are my G1 combos

This is my most stable combo

I would not compare G1 to Combiner wars aside from aesthetic. because engineering-wise, it is completely different. The heads are no longer the ports and the ports themselves are articulated now so it's a whole new ballgame. It seems that this time around, because there is a more involved transformation for the robot chests than in G1, what is favoured is the alt mode showing more for the limbs. While G1 looked like a bunch of robots getting together to form a bigger robot, CW Menasor is more a bunch of vehicles coming together to form a giant robot (kinda like what the third party Menasor did).

by **gothsaurus** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:14 pm

I'm totally okay with fenrir72 jumping in with some comparisons as a way to take part. Makes me re-think stuff with CW. Very interesting seeing the two together, always.

Cheers, everyone. Fun conversation we have here today.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:32 pm

Behold, Combiner Wars Ironhide:

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:33 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Behold, Combiner Wars Ironhide:

... with Bumblebee seemingly based on the Classics body.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:36 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Behold, Combiner Wars Ironhide:

... with Bumblebee seemingly based on the Classics body.

It's the RtS toy from a few years ago.

Along with Universe Ratchet.

The game uses toy designs both old and new.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:39 pm

Sabrblade wrote:It's the RtS toy from a few years ago.

Exactamundo:

Transformers Reveal The Shield Bumblebee Gallery

Along with Universe Ratchet.

The game uses toy designs both old and new.

So... does this mean a Ratchet retool of First Aid is off the table?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:41 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So... does this mean a Ratchet retool of First Aid is off the table?

At the very least, it means it's not coming this year. We've heard whispers of CW Combaticons coming, yet the game chose to base its Combaticons on the 1986 G1 toys instead.

by **gothsaurus** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:47 pm

I'm guessing they just used their first waves... whatever was available and handy to do cgi models from.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 19, 2015 1:51 pm

Recall also the all the recent Beast Wars game models were based on the 1996-1997 toys instead of the cartoon models or the CHUG toys.

News Credits: 4835 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 19, 2015 2:32 pm

gothsaurus wrote:I'm totally okay with fenrir72 jumping in with some comparisons as a way to take part. Makes me re-think stuff with CW. Very interesting seeing the two together, always.

Cheers, everyone. Fun conversation we have here today.

Oh definitely, I didnt mean any ill will towards Fenrir, he's a cool dude. I just meant to say that there are limits to comparing the G1 toy and the Combiner Wars toy and thus I couldnt fully answer his questions. If anyone else wants to attempt it, please do