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[Jelze Bunnycat]

Pretty...

And as a reminder, it's quite possible that with Combiner Wars over, Liokaiser is a Platinum Edition instead.

Our first glimpse of this guy was on CW Computron's box, so I'm pretty sure he was at least intended to carry the CW label, even if that winds up not being the case in the end.

He was also shown on some recent Platinum Edition boxes, like the Autobot Heroes one. I guess Hasbro no longer cares, as Combiner Wars and Platinum Edition are both under the Generations label.

[Hellscream9999]

Pretty...

And as a reminder, it's quite possible that with Combiner Wars over, Liokaiser is a Platinum Edition instead.

Our first glimpse of this guy was on CW Computron's box, so I'm pretty sure he was at least intended to carry the CW label, even if that winds up not being the case in the end.

He was also shown on some recent Platinum Edition boxes, like the Autobot Heroes one. I guess Hasbro no longer cares, as Combiner Wars and Platinum Edition are both under the Generations label.

Yeah, because cw skywarp was shown on the cross-sell of a plat. set too...

[Mkall]

I would've preferred a G2 Defensor in this character slot, but he looks ok.

[Sabrblade]

Pretty...

And as a reminder, it's quite possible that with Combiner Wars over, Liokaiser is a Platinum Edition instead.

Our first glimpse of this guy was on CW Computron's box,

Was it? We'd first seen standalone artwork of the figure before any toy photos, and then the toy photo we saw at BotCon this year was from the Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes set. Computron's box wasn't at BotCon, so was there a pic of the box that showed Liokaiser on it?

[Zeedust]

Pretty...

And as a reminder, it's quite possible that with Combiner Wars over, Liokaiser is a Platinum Edition instead.

Our first glimpse of this guy was on CW Computron's box,

Was it? We'd first seen standalone artwork of the figure before any toy photos, and then the toy photo we saw at BotCon this year was from the Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes set. Computron's box wasn't at BotCon, so was there a pic of the box that showed Liokaiser on it?

I made a mistake. I'm sorry. I'll shut up now.

[Hellscream9999]

Pretty...

And as a reminder, it's quite possible that with Combiner Wars over, Liokaiser is a Platinum Edition instead.

Our first glimpse of this guy was on CW Computron's box,

Was it? We'd first seen standalone artwork of the figure before any toy photos, and then the toy photo we saw at BotCon this year was from the Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes set. Computron's box wasn't at BotCon, so was there a pic of the box that showed Liokaiser on it?

I made a mistake. I'm sorry. I'll shut up now.

It's okay

We all make mistakes, but spreading correct information is usually preferable

[RiddlerJ]

While the Sky Lynx mold has seen less use, I think I would've preferred the Silverbolt mold as Leozack. Maybe retooled so the Blackjack mold could connect as Jallguar and keep him as a six figure combiner.


Also Alpha Bravo as Deathcobra.

[Hellscream9999]

While the Sky Lynx mold has seen less use, I think I would've preferred the Silverbolt mold as Leozack. Maybe retooled so the Blackjack mold could connect as Jallguar and keep him as a six figure combiner.


Also Alpha Bravo as Deathcobra.

That would have been cool;

or swindle as jallguar

[Decepticon Stryker]

I want it!!!

[Wolfman Jake]

Is...IS THAT THE BRAWL MOLD TWICE?

I would love to know how Hasbro came to the decisions they made when designing this "Liokaiser" set. They could have dropped either Drillhorn or Killbison to include Jallguar instead, giving the team a lot more mold diversity. I know that Jallguar is supposed to be a racing buggy, but I think a black repaint/retool of CW Dragstrip would have suited his original silhouette rather well. For that matter, they could have left out one of the planes too (either Guyhawk or Hellbat) to Jallguar, though at least the plane molds used are technically more different than the two versions of the tank mold are. At the end of the day, I know that Jallguar is the odd man out, not being one of the arms or legs of the gestalt form, but Hasbro has made bigger changes and concessions to established G1 characters before in the name of making a "good/cool/modern" product.

Also, are we 100% sure that the torso will be Deathsaurus? That teal screams Leozack to me, and what would Liokaiser be without the LEO part? Yes, the black and red detailing can also point to Deathsaurus, and the teal could be a nod to his more traditional blue coloring. Maybe it's some weird amalgamation of the two (thought that kind of weird fictional shoe-horning seems to be more Takara Tomy's MO).

Given the extensive retooling Takara Tomy was willing to do to give us the spectacular Unite Warriors Computron, I hope that, if they choose to tackle Liokaiser, they ditch the Sky Lynx torso, retool Silverbolt (yet again), and come up with a way to attach a "Legends" scale version of Jallguar to the torso.

[Decepticon Stryker]

Is...IS THAT THE BRAWL MOLD TWICE?

I would love to know how Hasbro came to the decisions they made when designing this "Liokaiser" set. They could have dropped either Drillhorn or Killbison to include Jallguar instead, giving the team a lot more mold diversity. I know that Jallguar is supposed to be a racing buggy, but I think a black repaint/retool of CW Dragstrip would have suited his original silhouette rather well. For that matter, they could have left out one of the planes too (either Guyhawk or Hellbat) to Jallguar, though at least the plane molds used are technically more different than the two versions of the tank mold are. At the end of the day, I know that Jallguar is the odd man out, not being one of the arms or legs of the gestalt form, but Hasbro has made bigger changes and concessions to established G1 characters before in the name of making a "good/cool/modern" product.

Also, are we 100% sure that the torso will be Deathsaurus? That teal screams Leozack to me, and what would Liokaiser be without the LEO part? Yes, the black and red detailing can also point to Deathsaurus, and the teal could be a nod to his more traditional blue coloring. Maybe it's some weird amalgamation of the two (thought that kind of weird fictional shoe-horning seems to be more Takara Tomy's MO).

Given the extensive retooling Takara Tomy was willing to do to give us the spectacular Unite Warriors Computron, I hope that, if they choose to tackle Liokaiser, they ditch the Sky Lynx torso, retool Silverbolt (yet again), and come up with a way to attach a "Legends" scale version of Jallguar to the torso.

Well since the head looks feline, my best guess is that the black parts on the torso are Jallugar.. Personally, I wish that they would use the Takara Nosecone mold for Drillhorn but this being Hasbro the chances of that are very slim. (But if Takara does its own version, I'm sure they'll use that mold)
As for Deathsaurus, I don't think they'll use him. He would make a good Titans Return figure though..
However my stance still remains: I want it!

[fenrir72]

Hopefully Hb is gonna put a face in that mouth cavity or retool the head to recreate the Leokaizer head in the anime. for a Takara retooled non exclusive version.

[Hellscream9999]

Hopefully Hb is gonna put a face in that mouth cavity or retool the head to recreate the Leokaizer head in the anime. for a Takara retooled non exclusive version.

It... has a retooled combiner head, it's just a little hard to make out against the helmet

[fenrir72]

While the Sky Lynx mold has seen less use, I think I would've preferred the Silverbolt mold as Leozack. Maybe retooled so the Blackjack mold could connect as Jallguar and keep him as a six figure combiner.


Also Alpha Bravo as Deathcobra.

Retool him into a Hin D

[fenrir72]

Hopefully Hb is gonna put a face in that mouth cavity or retool the head to recreate the Leokaizer head in the anime. for a Takara retooled non exclusive version.

It... has a retooled combiner head, it's just a little hard to make out against the helmet

If that's the case, as the face is indeed hard to see

[Hellscream9999]

Hopefully Hb is gonna put a face in that mouth cavity or retool the head to recreate the Leokaizer head in the anime. for a Takara retooled non exclusive version.

It... has a retooled combiner head, it's just a little hard to make out against the helmet

If that's the case, as the face is indeed hard to see

You can see the eye's below the lion eye's, below that is the teal faceplate, outlined by silver

[fenrir72]

Mea so happy! Since Takara is releasing their Sky Reign combiner as an exclusive, that should be enough cash for them to release and retool ala Computicon, this version of Leokaiser. Maybe change the tank turret to simulate the original and retool Nosecone. Though that still is one short of a 4WD assault buggy.

[leokearon]

I would have preferred G2 Defensor over this. Double Brawl (which I betting they haven't fixed) and a possible Deathsaurus without a robot mode, plus missing members means this isn't the update LioKaiser I was wanting.

[Hellscream9999]

Mea so happy! Since Takara is releasing their Sky Reign combiner as an exclusive, that should be enough cash for them to release and retool ala Computicon, this version of Leokaiser. Maybe change the tank turret to simulate the original and retool Nosecone. Though that still is one short of a 4WD assault buggy.

Yup, not really much getting by that, so I'm guessing that they'll go the fan-wank route a'la galvatronus, and justify it via the pack-in comic, in that regard, hasbro's may end up looking more like liokaiser than TT's

[Hellscream9999]

I would have preferred G2 Defensor over this. Double Brawl (which I betting they haven't fixed) and a possible Deathsaurus without a robot mode, plus missing members means this isn't the update LioKaiser I was wanting.

My copy is the least flawed (by that, he has no issue's) of the combaticon limbs, so this makes me hopeful for this release

[CommanderShadowmus]

Long story short: We should've gotten Leozack as yet another redeco and retooling of Silverbolt instead of Deathsaurus as a redeco and retooling of Sky Lynx. Besides, Deathsaurus doesn't need a vehicle mode...

Oh, and the coloring of Liokaiser's head is wrong... Apperently they based it off of an animation error.

[william-james88]

I would have preferred G2 Defensor over this. Double Brawl (which I betting they haven't fixed) and a possible Deathsaurus without a robot mode, plus missing members means this isn't the update LioKaiser I was wanting.

That Brawl transformation was designed by Takara and their UW Brawl transforms the exact same way. Thats just the way the toy was meant to be. We dont have to like it, but it means its not an error that either Hasbro or Takara believe needs to be fixed.

[Kurona]

Looking less and less excited for this, to be honest... I mean, maybe it'll be a fun set, but it's definitely not Liokaiser.

[bluecatcinema]

I would love to know how Hasbro came to the decisions they made when designing this "Liokaiser" set. They could have dropped either Drillhorn or Killbison to include Jallguar instead, giving the team a lot more mold diversity. I know that Jallguar is supposed to be a racing buggy, but I think a black repaint/retool of CW Dragstrip would have suited his original silhouette rather well. For that matter, they could have left out one of the planes too (either Guyhawk or Hellbat) to Jallguar, though at least the plane molds used are technically more different than the two versions of the tank mold are. At the end of the day, I know that Jallguar is the odd man out, not being one of the arms or legs of the gestalt form, but Hasbro has made bigger changes and concessions to established G1 characters before in the name of making a "good/cool/modern" product.

Clearly, they were seeking to mimic the original Liokaiser's component placements (jets for arms, tanks for legs). I actually think it's a decent homage.

[steals_your_goats]

I think this guy looks cool, but it doesn't scream Liokaiser to me. I'll probably end up renaming him and his components and just hope that Takara is working on a proper Liokaiser with all 6 members.