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News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:12 pm

A lot of epoeple think i lie also just becuase I hoped ghe fan-made combiner wouldn't be a fembot team but it did anyway Plus remenber that time i thought their were 8 waves of combiner wars when willian told me their weren't and i tried to telk everybody sorry their actually aren't but their were a lot of replys that i couldn't keep on repeating what i had said to nearly every person being wrong? Plus the lies things really? Theres a difference from lieing and hoping plus sometimes i will admit i do get misinformation sometimes but I will usually admit i am wrong. Plus a lot of things i say are just ne hoping something just to let you know...

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:18 pm

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:54 pm

As far as I'm concerned, that Air Raid into Nosecone is just a joke and not to be taken seriously, or at least needs to be taken with a grain of salt so big it'd have its own gravitational pull. :lol:

What also works against that idea is the "2 shells per model" rule I've set up. So far we have:

Paired
Skydive with Air Raid
Breakdown with Wheeljack*
Dead End with Streetwise*
Offroad with First Aid
Rook with Swindle

Silverbolt with Cyclonus*
Motormaster with Optimus Prime
Hot Spot with Onslaught*

Jetfire with Thundercracker

Standalone
Alpha Bravo
Firefly
Drag Strip
Brawl

Sky Lynx

Megatron

As noted, Air Raid already has a partnered reshell, so yeah...

*Even though there are figures with more parts retooled aside from the head, the general structure still resembles one of the pair: Jumpstream goes with Breakdown, Dustup with Dead End, Pyra Magna with Hot Spot, and Scattershot with Silverbolt.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:44 pm

Thanks to Starscream Wei via Weibo we get a first look at in-hand images of images of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Smokescreen! Combiner War Smokescreen is due to be release in Combiner Wars Deluxe Wave 6 or the 2016 wave 2 with Hound, Trailbreaker and Wheeljack, Check out the images we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:53 pm

Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body #-o

What is this? This is so lazy, they even left the light bar on him; I mean, I know that it is part of the body itself, but man this is hideous and lazy :BANG_HEAD:

Thank Primus I got the first '84 team for him already, looks like I really will just be getting hound from that set of limbs [-(

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:07 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body

What is this? This is so lazy, they even left the light bar on him; I mean, I know that it is part of the body itself, but man this is hideous and lazy

Thank Primus I got the first '84 team for him already, looks like I really will just be getting hound from that set of limbs

He hardly has any to be sure, just on the head and chest. The rest is concentrated on the vehicle mode, which needs a lot: red to cover the blue plastic and vice-versa as it would be a patchwork otherwise.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:10 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body

No wonder we never noticed that before. Look at how they posed his CG render:

Clever, Hasbro. Clever. :-P

And looks to be the same as the ones on display at BotCon and SDCC:

by **RiddlerJ** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:14 pm

They could've painted the faux headlines or a number on his chest at least. Something. Painted the boots.

Which brings me to a question. The boot section was remolded from Dead End for Streetwise. Streetwise, Prowl, and Smokescreen all have rear car windows for their boots. Why didn't they try to mold the boots so that they look like fake windows and would be more accurate?

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:53 pm

Is that a new head sculpt compared to Prowl?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:59 pm

It Is Him wrote:Is that a new head sculpt compared to Prowl?

Nope, straight redeco all the way. Would be a waist waste to retool it if they look so much alike, right?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:32 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Wow, is that the finished product? He has no paint apps on his body
No wonder we never noticed that before. Look at how they posed his CG render:

Clever, Hasbro. Clever.

And looks to be the same as the ones on display at BotCon and SDCC:

Yeah, I'm sorry, but this is inexcusable laziness on hasbro's part. I don't care how 'G1 accurate' this may be (it isn't really though, I believe), nor should it being the last wave affect it's deco.

I get the feeling that TT could really knock this waves' deco's outta the park >:oP

http://www.youtube.com/user/Pepsimus · by **Black Bumblebee** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:40 pm

Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

by **Railbomb** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:49 pm

Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:53 pm

Railbomb wrote:
Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

Sure he is, it's just in robot mode now >:oP

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:56 pm

Railbomb wrote:
Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

It's cool to get these first in-hand looks but lets wait until we see this in packaging when it comes out before we rush to judgement on something like paint and such. Like those reviewers that review early third party samples says "the final product may change, this is still and early example" or whatever

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:58 pm

mooncake623 wrote:
Railbomb wrote:
Black Bumblebee wrote:Shame, really, considering the Classics version of Smokescreen was itself known for having a horrible paint job. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers- ... 1690/1/38/

Woah woah woah, CW Smokescreen isn't on that level of bad.

It's cool to get these first in-hand looks but lets wait until we see this in packaging when it comes out before we rush to judgement on something like paint and such. Like those reviewers that review early third party samples says "the final product may change, this is still and early example" or whatever

Except that it's the same as the display pieces, and the artwork that they release (which to my knowledge has been on the mark for this line) so, yeah, he isn't likely to get any more paint apps between now and then >:oP

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:00 pm

I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:06 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:07 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

That's why we have Reprolabels.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:09 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

That's why we have Reprolabels.

Still not okay >:oP

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:12 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

I was talking about the top: most of the vehicle mode is blue plastic as far as I can tell. Meaning it needs a lot of red paint to make it look like a proper Smokescreen. Only the roof and arms are red plastic, the latter needing blue paint.

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:53 pm

I was kinda meh until I scrolled done to the car mode. That sure is purdy. I've already got 4 of this mold though. A real shame about that bit of unpaintable plastic they keep using (I'm assuming its unpaintable that is).

Sharp car mode you gots there smokes.

by **MGrotusque** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:42 pm

I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:47 pm

MGrotusque wrote:I'm bored of this retool and repaint CW stuff. Really bored.......

Well, then thank Primus there's RiD!

News Credits: 1 · by **Gunmetal** » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:50 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I feel the need to remind everyone, the vehicle shell has quite a bit of paint to cover the off-color areas (blue that should be red and vice-versa). That's probably where all the paint budget went into.

Well considering that there are no remolded parts, and that all the other versions of this mold have an approximately equivalent amount of paint on the side of the vehicle mode - prowl, streetwise, dead-end, and neckbrace - I'd say it really isn't okay to leave it entirely unpainted in bot mode.

I was talking about the top: most of the vehicle mode is blue plastic as far as I can tell. Meaning it needs a lot of red paint to make it look like a proper Smokescreen. Only the roof and arms are red plastic, the latter needing blue paint.

Agreed. Needing the whole budget for the basic color scheme with nothing left for details is sort of Smokescreens thing, just as Silverbolt will always be a robot under a jet.

Bottom line: if Hasbro wanted to be cheap or lazy, they wouldn’t paint half of a blue and red car to make Smokescreen; they’d paint none of a grey and black car to make Bluestreak.