The Energon Pub

by **alex1986lunatic** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:57 pm

Thank you guys once again for all your feedback!
I like Bruticus a lot, too, but he is like 3/5 the same with Defensor. I would rather go for a combiner with different molds. Computron sounds like a good idea. What molds is it going to use exactly? Do we have any idea what will its price be? I'm also interested in Superion, but I can't find its limbs at retail anymore and their prices are soaring online. Unless I go for G2 superion. Any opinions on him? Is Menasor really that bad??

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:06 pm

alex1986lunatic wrote:Thank you guys once again for all your feedback!
I like Bruticus a lot, too, but he is like 3/5 the same with Defensor. I would rather go for a combiner with different molds. Computron sounds like a good idea. What molds is it going to use exactly? Do we have any idea what will its price be? I'm also interested in Superion, but I can't find its limbs at retail anymore and their prices are soaring online. Unless I go for G2 superion. Any opinions on him? Is Menasor really that bad??

Computron consists of Scattorshot (that mold has already been released solo), a repaint or even remold of the TT UW Deluxe Groove, a repaint or remold of Air Raid, a repaint of Brawl with a different head and weapon, a repaint of Dead End or Streetwise or Wheeljack and repaints of Generations Legends Cosmos with his Targetmaster Payload. And you can add Powerglide to his gun if you want.
If you want Menasor, you should be careful to get the new wave 4 version with the hip fix or the G2 box set. He's not bad, just the torso is a bit short. Depends on what you like.
Or you create your own combiner. Sky Reign and Galvatronus are great options for that. With Galvatronus you even can mix Decepticons with Autobots, if you care about the story and factions.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:11 pm

alex1986lunatic wrote:Thank you guys once again for all your feedback!
I like Bruticus a lot, too, but he is like 3/5 the same with Defensor. I would rather go for a combiner with different molds. Computron sounds like a good idea. What molds is it going to use exactly? Do we have any idea what will its price be? I'm also interested in Superion, but I can't find its limbs at retail anymore and their prices are soaring online. Unless I go for G2 superion. Any opinions on him? Is Menasor really that bad??

Unfortunately, you can't escape the samey molds in this line. As of right now, we know that Computron utilizes:

-A heavily repainted Scattershot torso - a remold of Silverbolt

-A heavily retooled Air Raid limb

-A heavily retooled deluxe Groove limb (so far a TT exclusive)

-A Brawl limb with new drill weapon (as seen in the 2016 BotCon box set photos)

-An unknown car limb that's either Wheeljack or Dead End

But he also comes with new, exclusive hands and feet, as well as a retooled Cosmos figure as Scrounge and Cosmos' Targetmaster, both of whom can combine to Strafe's shoulder in combined mode. All of this is (should be) $100 in one easy to purchase box set, hope this helps ;)^

by **alex1986lunatic** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:23 pm

A 100$ priced Computron sounds ideal! Since I only have defensor, i'll be getting a combiner with totally different limbs as well! I guess i'll wait its release then! I was hyped about Sky Lynx but what about those terrible hip joints? They are very loose in every video i've watched..It can barely stand in combined mode. I think i'll pass for this reason

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:26 pm

alex1986lunatic wrote:A 100$ priced Computron sounds ideal! Since I only have defensor, i'll be getting a combiner with totally different limbs as well! I guess i'll wait its release then! I was hyped about Sky Lynx but what about those terrible hip joints? They are very loose in every video i've watched..It can barely stand in combined mode. I think i'll pass for this reason

You do not only have to get him because of his combined mode. If you like him solo, too, go for him and then you can try on your own how you like him combined (with your Protectobots) and the hip joints. If you don't like him, just display him in one of his other 2 modes.

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:41 pm

My Skyreign has looser joints than the other combiners(I have 'em all except the G2 guys), but he can pull off more dynamic poses than the rest regardless of that. His legs are actually pretty great. The extra joints go a long way to allow for stable poses. His shoulders don't lock, but they don't really slip around much either.

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:45 pm

RE : G2 Bruticus set.

I'd still rather have liked the G2 colours of Mini-Shockwave to be the same as Energon Sixshot - shame that they are not - the Actionmaster deco is so similar I have to double check often times I see either to be sure which one I'm looking at.

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:51 pm

albnok wrote:
Insurgent wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:Has anyone done anything interesting with the peg and port on Groove's legs yet?

I combined him with Hot Spot's guns to make a dual pistol type thingy for Defensor. His feet become the arm stock.

I can't figure this out. Can you upload a picture?

INCOMING!!!

He does have to lean back one click at the waist to stand in this pose. Groove's arm that's hanging down is meant to be a trigger guard.

Overall, I much prefer this over the chestplate look, as I really do like Defensor's black chest. Hope those pics helped, I realise the light was a bit birght. If not, I can try again at the weekend under some natural light. Essentially, from bike mode, you unplug his arms and swing his shoulders in the robot mode position. Then swing his waist down into robot mode position and lock it in. Swing his thighs up against his torso and fold his legs so it's in line with his bike mode (his kneepads should be against his chin). The arm that's on the side of the leg peg, twist it around at the elbow and drop it 90 degree to be the trigger guard. On the side with the leg hole, flip it 180 at the elbow so the hollow part is against his leg and push the arm from the shoulder back. There's actually a perfect gap in his arm for the kickstand to fit into. Fold out his legs like for robot mode and plug one of hotspot's guns into the hole in Groove's leg (if you want it aimed straight, you can't push it into the hole full yor it won't clear the handlebars), and the other in the kickstand hand (you're preference if you want both barrels on line or staggered. Just depends if you plug the gun in upside down, but don't worry, groove will hold the gun securely either way). Angle the windshield against his seat for visual smoothness and use the peg on Groove's leg as the handle. Boom. Targetmaster. It sounds more involved than it really is.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 6:55 pm

Insurgent wrote:
albnok wrote:
Insurgent wrote:
Mr Skram wrote:Has anyone done anything interesting with the peg and port on Groove's legs yet?

I combined him with Hot Spot's guns to make a dual pistol type thingy for Defensor. His feet become the arm stock.

I can't figure this out. Can you upload a picture?

INCOMING!!!

I read that in Pinkie Pie's voice.

Neat configuration, though.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:21 pm

RAR wrote:RE : G2 Bruticus set.

I'd still rather have liked the G2 colours of Mini-Shockwave to be the same as Energon Sixshot - shame that they are not - the Actionmaster deco is so similar I have to double check often times I see either to be sure which one I'm looking at.

That was the general consensus... a lot of people were hoping for the sixshot deco as a 'ret-conned' G2 Shockwave :-?

Like LegendaryAntiHero on Facebook · by **LegendaryAntiHero** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:48 pm

I'm looking forward to getting Bruticus and Skylnx on Saturday since both look amazing

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:52 pm

LegendaryAntiHero wrote:I'm looking forward to getting Bruticus and Skylnx on Saturday since both look amazing

They both are ;)^

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:30 am

dunno why noone thought to repaint the Swindle/Hound mold as Beachcomber? he'd've probably suited that mold better than Hound did.

by **Fox Thiagarajan** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:53 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:dunno why noone thought to repaint the Swindle/Hound mold as Beachcomber? he'd've probably suited that mold better than Hound did.

Man. Now I want that repaint of such a Beachcomber. Never thought of that.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:53 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:dunno why noone thought to repaint the Swindle/Hound mold as Beachcomber? he'd've probably suited that mold better than Hound did.

But Beachcomber is usually smaller and more pacified, and that mold is bulkier and larger. It kinda makes sense as Hound with the jeep theme, some bulk, a shoulder cannon, and the military look. Beachcomber would make sense with a smaller, lighter, less muscular look to me :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:58 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:dunno why noone thought to repaint the Swindle/Hound mold as Beachcomber? he'd've probably suited that mold better than Hound did.

But Beachcomber is usually smaller and more pacified, and that mold is bulkier and larger. It kinda makes sense as Hound with the jeep theme, some bulk, a shoulder cannon, and the military look. Beachcomber would make sense with a smaller, lighter, less muscular look to me

But characters don't always have to be the same I think. For example look at Arms Micron Swerve:

Maybe Beachcomber has suffered a serious stroke of fate and is now a real bad ass in combat. :michaelbay:

You can call it character evolution

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:02 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:dunno why noone thought to repaint the Swindle/Hound mold as Beachcomber? he'd've probably suited that mold better than Hound did.

But Beachcomber is usually smaller and more pacified, and that mold is bulkier and larger. It kinda makes sense as Hound with the jeep theme, some bulk, a shoulder cannon, and the military look. Beachcomber would make sense with a smaller, lighter, less muscular look to me

But characters don't always have to be the same I think. For example look at Arms Micron Swerve:

Maybe Beachcomber has suffered a serious stroke of fate and is now a real bad ass in combat.
You can call it character evolution

i didn't even know about this Breakdown repaint! the only repaint i knew of & got was Silas Breakdown

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:08 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:dunno why noone thought to repaint the Swindle/Hound mold as Beachcomber? he'd've probably suited that mold better than Hound did.

But Beachcomber is usually smaller and more pacified, and that mold is bulkier and larger. It kinda makes sense as Hound with the jeep theme, some bulk, a shoulder cannon, and the military look. Beachcomber would make sense with a smaller, lighter, less muscular look to me

But characters don't always have to be the same I think.

I'm not saying they should, and I am one who likes change. It would feel kinda weird though, like when Powerglide was ultra class and not a minibot sort of thing. :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:15 pm

Yeah, no Minibots have gotten the CW Deluxe limb treatment. It's only been those who have been combiner limbs in G1 or Autobot Cars. Hasbro seems to now want to keep the Minibots below the Deluxe range.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:48 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:dunno why noone thought to repaint the Swindle/Hound mold as Beachcomber? he'd've probably suited that mold better than Hound did.

But Beachcomber is usually smaller and more pacified, and that mold is bulkier and larger. It kinda makes sense as Hound with the jeep theme, some bulk, a shoulder cannon, and the military look. Beachcomber would make sense with a smaller, lighter, less muscular look to me

But characters don't always have to be the same I think. For example look at Arms Micron Swerve:

Maybe Beachcomber has suffered a serious stroke of fate and is now a real bad ass in combat.
You can call it character evolution

i didn't even know about this Breakdown repaint! the only repaint i knew of & got was Silas Breakdown

I got him and I think he's great. I imagine him being IDW Swerve's future bad ass self after he got fed up of being so small and weak and wants to participate with the other 'bots in combat. Something the way I said about Beachcomber.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:37 pm

Here's another one who figured something out how to attach the Groove Legends Class mold to Sky Reign:

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:41 pm

Well, that is the best of the options so far we have seen. and it kinda/sorta works :MAXIMAL:

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:46 pm

ok, here's a few digibashes from TFW2005 that we maybe could've got as figures in the CW line(but obviously haven't)

RID(Carrobots) style Optimus Prime

IDW Prowl

& finally, the one i thought we would've most likely have got!.......Hoist

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:52 pm

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well, that is the best of the options so far we have seen. and it kinda/sorta works

Yeah, it's really cool, but which other ones have we gotten so far?
I just know one more where it is attached to Sky Reign's crotch like a huge belt buckle or "something like that".

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:57 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well, that is the best of the options so far we have seen. and it kinda/sorta works

Yeah, it's really cool, but which other ones have we gotten so far?
I just know one more where it is attached to Sky Reign's crotch like a huge belt buckle or "something like that".

There was the beltbuckle style and then just putting the motorcycle mode right into the backpack (kinda like sword storage) :MAXIMAL: