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Kurona wrote:I liked Viper. A little let down by his somewhat odd arm articulation - and his gun mode wasn't good, but I won't hold that against him - but all in all a pretty decent figure. Also you can mistransform him into having a very long neck. Useful for giving yourself nightmares for a month if you're into that sort of thing
Zeedust wrote:Also, the "long neck" think means if you have both of them, they can look like they're doing Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots.
...Well, okay, sorta...
Kurona wrote:Anywho, toys! What's the best Legends class from this line in you guys' opinion? Excluding Shockwave, he wins by default.
o.supreme wrote:I would have said Powerglide, but, maybe its just a flaw with mine, but the back part wont stay together in plane or gun mode. Viper doesn't have a problem, and I haven't taken my TT Dogfight out of its package yet, though I will eventually.
william-james88 wrote:I think thats a fault on most Powerglides. Definitely mine. Also, congrats on getting Dogfight!!!!!!
Kurona wrote:I would much prefer Predaking to be a voyager and four deluxes. So much more playability that way.
Kurona wrote:I would much prefer Predaking to be a voyager and four deluxes. So much more playability that way.
Kurona wrote: in fiction every combiner team had the components be the same size.
Kurona wrote: I'd rather have all the positives a 1-voyager 4-deluxe combiner would bring rather than such an extreme level of toy accuracy they give him the titan slot.
And if they were the same size, the proportions would be terrible without a huge amount of combiner kibble. There's just no good reason to make him a Titan.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Kurona wrote: in fiction every combiner team had the components be the same size.
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/f/f ... rstAid.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/e ... igade2.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/5 ... erbolt.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/1/1b/Stunticons.jpg
What fiction were you looking at?Except when the artists and animators messed up (which happened most often to Silverbolt), the "Scramble City" teams were depicted with the leader/torso being distinctly taller just like with the toys.
Kurona wrote: I'd rather have all the positives a 1-voyager 4-deluxe combiner would bring rather than such an extreme level of toy accuracy they give him the titan slot.
And if they were the same size, the proportions would be terrible without a huge amount of combiner kibble. There's just no good reason to make him a Titan.
If they were all the same size, the proportions would be no different than the original Predaking toy.
And perhaps my phrasing was not as clear as it could have been. I was trying to sketch out how it might be workable to pull off making everyone the same size without making him Titan-class (which is way the heck too big; that comic panel is based on comparing the original toys with no accounting for the movie-onward scale bump or the components of every G1 combiner but Predaking being to a smaller robot mode scale in toy form than their fellows... Plus neither toy of Sky Lynx would be anywhere near adequate a rival); in other words, keeping Predaking basically Supreme class like the CW "Scramble City" combiners. Hence my bringing up making them individually-sold Voyagers. Yes, the Constructicons that make up the Titan-class Devastator are Voyagers.. but they push and I think in some cases exceed the mass/weight limit for retail Voyagers even without the combiner kibble, plus there's six of them. With the Predacons, you'd have only 5, and as individually-sold retail Voyagers some of the mass would go to weapons and combiner kibble and Divebomb's wings. That's another thing - if Predaking was done as 4 Deluxes, 1 Voyager then unless he was a pricepoint-cheating giftset the wings on his back would end up being really stubby.
RiddlerJ wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Kurona wrote: in fiction every combiner team had the components be the same size.
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/f/f ... rstAid.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/e/e ... igade2.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/5/5 ... erbolt.jpg
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/1/1b/Stunticons.jpg
What fiction were you looking at?Except when the artists and animators messed up (which happened most often to Silverbolt), the "Scramble City" teams were depicted with the leader/torso being distinctly taller just like with the toys.
Kurona wrote: I'd rather have all the positives a 1-voyager 4-deluxe combiner would bring rather than such an extreme level of toy accuracy they give him the titan slot.
And if they were the same size, the proportions would be terrible without a huge amount of combiner kibble. There's just no good reason to make him a Titan.
If they were all the same size, the proportions would be no different than the original Predaking toy.
And perhaps my phrasing was not as clear as it could have been. I was trying to sketch out how it might be workable to pull off making everyone the same size without making him Titan-class (which is way the heck too big; that comic panel is based on comparing the original toys with no accounting for the movie-onward scale bump or the components of every G1 combiner but Predaking being to a smaller robot mode scale in toy form than their fellows... Plus neither toy of Sky Lynx would be anywhere near adequate a rival); in other words, keeping Predaking basically Supreme class like the CW "Scramble City" combiners. Hence my bringing up making them individually-sold Voyagers. Yes, the Constructicons that make up the Titan-class Devastator are Voyagers.. but they push and I think in some cases exceed the mass/weight limit for retail Voyagers even without the combiner kibble, plus there's six of them. With the Predacons, you'd have only 5, and as individually-sold retail Voyagers some of the mass would go to weapons and combiner kibble and Divebomb's wings. That's another thing - if Predaking was done as 4 Deluxes, 1 Voyager then unless he was a pricepoint-cheating giftset the wings on his back would end up being really stubby.
I would think Hasbro would be wary of putting out 5 similar voyagers (same colors, all animals). I think that's why the Dinobots still have yet to get new figures and the Constucticons had to be released as one Titan figure.
Personally, I wouldn't mind a Titan class Predaking. Like you said, since he's only five figures the budget can go into better articulation and weapons than The Constructions had.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:the next Titan-class Decepticon slot should be reserved for Scorponok to round out the Citybots and finally give us a transforming Scorponok who actually stands head-height with Fort Max.
o.supreme wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:the next Titan-class Decepticon slot should be reserved for Scorponok to round out the Citybots and finally give us a transforming Scorponok who actually stands head-height with Fort Max.
Which probably wont happen, TR Trypticon is several inches shorter than Metroplex/Fort Max, Scorponok will sadly probably suffer the same.
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