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[Agamemnon]

Well we don't need to resort to name calling, do we?
Especially when it's obvious.

I think we need a new thread...
Alpha Bravo - So Scandalous He Needs His Own Thread

how has Va'al not made that thread yet?

Why not make it a more general thread, like Replacement Combiner Limbs - So Scandalous They Need Their Own Thread, just so we can include Offroad and Rook? Why should Alpha Bravo be singled out?

Because AB is that awesome!!

[Randomhero]

I can't get enough oh the cry babies complaining about Alpha Bravo. The dumbest complaint is he's not a jet. Ya know what's not a stunt vehicle? A semi truck. Ya know what isn't a combat vehicle? A space shuttle. "Oh no! But they have a history so it's okay!" Spare me

[LE0KING]

Funny the fans picked sea of rust. Its like they unanimously agree its going to be a piece of junk.

or perhaps it just seemed like the most interesting option of the three. That's why I voted for it.

Does that mean you'll vote for the gender to be female?

Not sure, I would like them to confirm if a gender vote will effect the whole team or individual members before deciding.

It also depends if it will alter the mold even a little bit. It'd be weird to have two identical figures with different colors saying one is male and the other female.

[william-james88]

I can't get enough oh the cry babies complaining about Alpha Bravo. The dumbest complaint is he's not a jet. Ya know what's not a stunt vehicle? A semi truck. Ya know what isn't a combat vehicle? A space shuttle. "Oh no! But they have a history so it's okay!" Spare me

[ZeroWolf]

I can't get enough oh the cry babies complaining about Alpha Bravo. The dumbest complaint is he's not a jet. Ya know what's not a stunt vehicle? A semi truck. Ya know what isn't a combat vehicle? A space shuttle. "Oh no! But they have a history so it's okay!" Spare me

Love it

[william-james88]

Here's a rundown of other points brought up at the toyfair that I didnt see posted elsehwere on this thread yet:

Generations

Viper was said to be a "generic" style Transformer – not technically a drone, but a design a lot of different, independently-sentient guys share, like the Omnicons in the Energon cartoon. This characterization is intended to facilitate fans army-building Viper, recalling the Cobra Viper that is his namesake.

The "brand-new Prototectobot" Rook was said to be a "toolbox," with fists that can manipulate and use different types of weapons.

Rook's deco was said to be the work of Joe Kyde. It was kept similar to the pre-existing Protectobots to maintain visual consistency in Defensor's combined mode.

Because Rook's fists end in 5mm holes, and Titan Class Devastator's combined mode fists use posts of the same scale, designer John Warden has received some late-night photos of Rook using Devastator's giant fists like "Hulk Hands" from his TakaraTomy teammate Shogo Hasui.

Cyclonus's combined form was said to be called "Galvatronus" (with a long "o"), but his super robot head couldn't be revealed because the on-hand figures were hand-painted samples. The Legends Class "Viper" figure was implied to be Galvatronus's firearm, mirroring Powerglide/Silverbolt.

Hot Spot was said to be the work of TakaraTomy staffer Takashi Kunihiro.

As a designer, one thing John Warden is trying to do is work subtle scale back into Transformers. As an example of this, he stated that the doors and ladders on Ultra Magnus are 1/144th scale, and that the Titan Constructicons feature ladders of the same size (putting them into rough scale with one another).

Minimus Ambus cannot ride in Ultra Magnus's cab mode, both due to the figure's transformation and so as to not give the appearance that Ultra Magnus is merely a "mecha".

Ultra Magnus was also said to be the work of TakaraTomy staffer Takashi Kunihiro.

Ben Yee's interview with Jivoin also revealed that the first wave of Combiner Wars Deluxes released in North America lacked pack-in comics because of production timing issues; the collector cards are usually only used in non-English international markets, but were subbed in because the comics weren't ready to go. Any re-releases of first wave figures will include comics.%5B2%5D

Whether redecos of figures from previous assortments receive new heads - Legends Huffer from Optimus Prime was used as an example - depends on the size of the figure and its equivalent production costs (e.g. making a new head for a Legends figure was said to be much cheaper compared to one for a Deluxe or a Voyager) and if TakaraTomy agrees to the proposal. In Huffer's case, his new head "insert" was deemed small enough by TakaraTomy that they agreed to it with minimal negotiations.

One presenter inquired about whether fans would be interested in customizable "order-your-own" Combiners. The idea was agreed to be both awesome and potentially Wiki-breaking.

When asked about the possibility of getting either the Generation 2 Stunticons or TakaraTomy's Slingshot in Combiner Wars, a presenter said that they couldn't reveal anything at this time, but stated that Hasbro loves to listen to the fans and tries to deliver the best tributes it can to its wide audience.

[Mindmaster]

"Order your own combiners"?

Oh, that would be the best thing ever. I would totally be on board for that!

[TheTheoretician]

Hi y´all! I have not been following this thread closely so it might be that I am repeating a lot of ideas that have been coming up lately, but based on the Toy Fair reveals last week I have made a table with what we currently know of Combiner Wars and on the trends I found, added some predictions. I discuss it all in the latest post on my blog:

https://tftheoretician.wordpress.com/20 ... edictions/

If you feel interested, have a look! And then tell me whether my ideas are sound or just plain crazy

[Randomhero]

Here's a rundown of other points brought up at the toyfair that I didnt see posted elsehwere on this thread yet:

Generations

Viper was said to be a "generic" style Transformer – not technically a drone, but a design a lot of different, independently-sentient guys share, like the Omnicons in the Energon cartoon. This characterization is intended to facilitate fans army-building Viper, recalling the Cobra Viper that is his namesake.

The "brand-new Prototectobot" Rook was said to be a "toolbox," with fists that can manipulate and use different types of weapons.

Rook's deco was said to be the work of Joe Kyde. It was kept similar to the pre-existing Protectobots to maintain visual consistency in Defensor's combined mode.

Because Rook's fists end in 5mm holes, and Titan Class Devastator's combined mode fists use posts of the same scale, designer John Warden has received some late-night photos of Rook using Devastator's giant fists like "Hulk Hands" from his TakaraTomy teammate Shogo Hasui.

Cyclonus's combined form was said to be called "Galvatronus" (with a long "o"), but his super robot head couldn't be revealed because the on-hand figures were hand-painted samples. The Legends Class "Viper" figure was implied to be Galvatronus's firearm, mirroring Powerglide/Silverbolt.

Hot Spot was said to be the work of TakaraTomy staffer Takashi Kunihiro.

As a designer, one thing John Warden is trying to do is work subtle scale back into Transformers. As an example of this, he stated that the doors and ladders on Ultra Magnus are 1/144th scale, and that the Titan Constructicons feature ladders of the same size (putting them into rough scale with one another).

Minimus Ambus cannot ride in Ultra Magnus's cab mode, both due to the figure's transformation and so as to not give the appearance that Ultra Magnus is merely a "mecha".

Ultra Magnus was also said to be the work of TakaraTomy staffer Takashi Kunihiro.

Ben Yee's interview with Jivoin also revealed that the first wave of Combiner Wars Deluxes released in North America lacked pack-in comics because of production timing issues; the collector cards are usually only used in non-English international markets, but were subbed in because the comics weren't ready to go. Any re-releases of first wave figures will include comics.%5B2%5D

Whether redecos of figures from previous assortments receive new heads - Legends Huffer from Optimus Prime was used as an example - depends on the size of the figure and its equivalent production costs (e.g. making a new head for a Legends figure was said to be much cheaper compared to one for a Deluxe or a Voyager) and if TakaraTomy agrees to the proposal. In Huffer's case, his new head "insert" was deemed small enough by TakaraTomy that they agreed to it with minimal negotiations.

One presenter inquired about whether fans would be interested in customizable "order-your-own" Combiners. The idea was agreed to be both awesome and potentially Wiki-breaking.

When asked about the possibility of getting either the Generation 2 Stunticons or TakaraTomy's Slingshot in Combiner Wars, a presenter said that they couldn't reveal anything at this time, but stated that Hasbro loves to listen to the fans and tries to deliver the best tributes it can to its wide audience.

Too much didn't read

[shajaki]

Too much didn't read

[Deadput]

Here's a rundown of other points brought up at the toyfair that I didnt see posted elsehwere on this thread yet:

Generations

Viper was said to be a "generic" style Transformer – not technically a drone, but a design a lot of different, independently-sentient guys share, like the Omnicons in the Energon cartoon. This characterization is intended to facilitate fans army-building Viper, recalling the Cobra Viper that is his namesake.

The "brand-new Prototectobot" Rook was said to be a "toolbox," with fists that can manipulate and use different types of weapons.

Rook's deco was said to be the work of Joe Kyde. It was kept similar to the pre-existing Protectobots to maintain visual consistency in Defensor's combined mode.

Because Rook's fists end in 5mm holes, and Titan Class Devastator's combined mode fists use posts of the same scale, designer John Warden has received some late-night photos of Rook using Devastator's giant fists like "Hulk Hands" from his TakaraTomy teammate Shogo Hasui.

Cyclonus's combined form was said to be called "Galvatronus" (with a long "o"), but his super robot head couldn't be revealed because the on-hand figures were hand-painted samples. The Legends Class "Viper" figure was implied to be Galvatronus's firearm, mirroring Powerglide/Silverbolt.

Hot Spot was said to be the work of TakaraTomy staffer Takashi Kunihiro.

As a designer, one thing John Warden is trying to do is work subtle scale back into Transformers. As an example of this, he stated that the doors and ladders on Ultra Magnus are 1/144th scale, and that the Titan Constructicons feature ladders of the same size (putting them into rough scale with one another).

Minimus Ambus cannot ride in Ultra Magnus's cab mode, both due to the figure's transformation and so as to not give the appearance that Ultra Magnus is merely a "mecha".

Ultra Magnus was also said to be the work of TakaraTomy staffer Takashi Kunihiro.

Ben Yee's interview with Jivoin also revealed that the first wave of Combiner Wars Deluxes released in North America lacked pack-in comics because of production timing issues; the collector cards are usually only used in non-English international markets, but were subbed in because the comics weren't ready to go. Any re-releases of first wave figures will include comics.%5B2%5D

Whether redecos of figures from previous assortments receive new heads - Legends Huffer from Optimus Prime was used as an example - depends on the size of the figure and its equivalent production costs (e.g. making a new head for a Legends figure was said to be much cheaper compared to one for a Deluxe or a Voyager) and if TakaraTomy agrees to the proposal. In Huffer's case, his new head "insert" was deemed small enough by TakaraTomy that they agreed to it with minimal negotiations.

One presenter inquired about whether fans would be interested in customizable "order-your-own" Combiners. The idea was agreed to be both awesome and potentially Wiki-breaking.

When asked about the possibility of getting either the Generation 2 Stunticons or TakaraTomy's Slingshot in Combiner Wars, a presenter said that they couldn't reveal anything at this time, but stated that Hasbro loves to listen to the fans and tries to deliver the best tributes it can to its wide audience.

His
Too much didn't read

Who cares like at all?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Generations

Ben Yee's interview with Jivoin also revealed that the first wave of Combiner Wars Deluxes released in North America lacked pack-in comics because of production timing issues; the collector cards are usually only used in non-English international markets, but were subbed in because the comics weren't ready to go. Any re-releases of first wave figures will include comics.

Called it.

[william-james88]

Too much didn't read

If I wasnt able to read longer texts, I wouldnt make sure the whole world knew.

[william-james88]

Generations

Ben Yee's interview with Jivoin also revealed that the first wave of Combiner Wars Deluxes released in North America lacked pack-in comics because of production timing issues; the collector cards are usually only used in non-English international markets, but were subbed in because the comics weren't ready to go. Any re-releases of first wave figures will include comics.

Called it.

I find the rerelease angle interesting. I guess it means that Hasbro has plans in place to rerelease popular waves.

[Randomhero]

Who remembers slingshot from the 80s? What was his defining feature? He was the @$$hole. So it honestly makes sense that all the @$$holes of the fandom would come out of theirs holes to back him up and ridicule alpha bravo

[Editor]

It also depends if it will alter the mold even a little bit. It'd be weird to have two identical figures with different colors saying one is male and the other female.

Retooling would be nice but seeing it looks like that part of the poll may have been tacked on after the fact, it may not be in the budget.

And there is a precedent for reusing a mold as a female character with out retooling.

Seeing it was voted as an Autobot, If the team were Decepticons, and female, we could have had a "Mean Girls" combiner.

[william-james88]

It also depends if it will alter the mold even a little bit. It'd be weird to have two identical figures with different colors saying one is male and the other female.

Retooling would be nice but seeing it looks like that part of the poll may have been tacked on after the fact, it may not be in the budget.

And there is a precedent for reusing a mold as a female character with out retooling.

I suspect only the combiner head would be altered.

[Optimizzy]

Concerning Alpha Bravo, I didn't really like him at first. I mean, yes, he's a chopper with a team of jets and yes, he's a new guy I know nothing about. But I got him on a whim and am glad I did. He's a great figure. I'd still like to get a release of slingshot if possible but if I dont, I'm very happy with alpha bravo and will be getting blades as well.

I have him armed to the teeth too. I gave him Fireflights gun and in chopper mode underling that gun along with his own in his fists and place the duel mini-gun (foot) in the port under the hull. It's pretty cool looking. I'll post a pic if anyone wants to see.

[Insurgent]

How does a helicopter work in a team of jets? The jets strafe the hunkered down Decepticons, leveleling their cover. As the cons scramble to new cover, Alpha Bravo hovers up and picks them off with his weapons, since he's shooting from an elevated stationary position, thus increasing his accuracy.


As for keeping up in getting from place to place.... he can fly in robot mode. Also, remember in FOC when Vortex is being played and he has to keep up with Blast off? A helicopter keeping up with a jet? ZOMG! He transformed into a fast mode! WOWZERS! I-I guess if Vortex can do that, then Alpha Bravo could as well!

[Editor]

How does a helicopter work in a team of jets? The jets strafe the hunkered down Decepticons, leveleling their cover. As the cons scramble to new cover, Alpha Bravo hovers up and picks them off with his weapons, since he's shooting from an elevated stationary position, thus increasing his accuracy.


As for keeping up in getting from place to place.... he can fly in robot mode. Also, remember in FOC when Vortex is being played and he has to keep up with Blast off? A helicopter keeping up with a jet? ZOMG! He transformed into a fast mode! WOWZERS! I-I guess if Vortex can do that, then Alpha Bravo could as well!

Convert from a chopper to a jet...
Has anyone told Myles Mayhem that Vortex is stealing his gimmick?

[MrBlack]

It also depends if it will alter the mold even a little bit. It'd be weird to have two identical figures with different colors saying one is male and the other female.

Retooling would be nice but seeing it looks like that part of the poll may have been tacked on after the fact, it may not be in the budget.

And there is a precedent for reusing a mold as a female character with out retooling.

I suspect only the combiner head would be altered.

Sooo, a bunch of guy bots would turn into a lady bot?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

How does a helicopter work in a team of jets? The jets strafe the hunkered down Decepticons, leveleling their cover. As the cons scramble to new cover, Alpha Bravo hovers up and picks them off with his weapons, since he's shooting from an elevated stationary position, thus increasing his accuracy.


As for keeping up in getting from place to place.... he can fly in robot mode. Also, remember in FOC when Vortex is being played and he has to keep up with Blast off? A helicopter keeping up with a jet? ZOMG! He transformed into a fast mode! WOWZERS! I-I guess if Vortex can do that, then Alpha Bravo could as well!

Convert from a chopper to a jet...
Has anyone told Myles Mayhem that Vortex is stealing his gimmick?

So is this guy... wait he actually came first with the idea:

Diaclone Triple Changer Helicopter Type On Super Toy Archive

[william-james88]

It also depends if it will alter the mold even a little bit. It'd be weird to have two identical figures with different colors saying one is male and the other female.

Retooling would be nice but seeing it looks like that part of the poll may have been tacked on after the fact, it may not be in the budget.

And there is a precedent for reusing a mold as a female character with out retooling.

I suspect only the combiner head would be altered.

Sooo, a bunch of guy bots would turn into a lady bot?

Combiners without a unified sex has a precedent, there was Scylla who was a female and teamed up with others to become a male God Neptune. The Resulting combiner is a different entity than the sum of it's parts and thus can have a different personality, intelligence level and gender.

[Cyberpath]

So Shogo Hasui was a collaborator on Devastator. I guess that explains the perfect cartoon heads. (:

[william-james88]

So Shogo Hasui was a collaborator on Devastator. I guess that explains the perfect cartoon heads. (:

That also gives more backing to the rumour that he will be released in Japan under the MP line.