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News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Mon May 11, 2015 10:42 am

Think it's going to be Prowl using the CW First Aid toy. As Prowl is already using this for his current IDW comic form.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon May 11, 2015 10:46 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think it's going to be Prowl using the CW First Aid toy. As Prowl is already using this for his current IDW comic form.

Then what mold would Ratchet use?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Mon May 11, 2015 10:50 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think it's going to be Prowl using the CW First Aid toy. As Prowl is already using this for his current IDW comic form.
Then what mold would Ratchet use?

Are you even sure we're getting Ratchet? As it stands, we have these character listings:

Sunstreaker (Breakdown)
Mirage (Drag Strip)
Ironhide (Offroad)
Prowl
Smokescreen
Wheeljack
Trailbreaker

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon May 11, 2015 10:54 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think it's going to be Prowl using the CW First Aid toy. As Prowl is already using this for his current IDW comic form.
Then what mold would Ratchet use?

Are you even sure we're getting Ratchet? As it stands, we have these character listings:

Sunstreaker (Breakdown)
Mirage (Drag Strip)
Ironhide (Offroad)
Prowl
Smokescreen
Wheeljack
Trailbreaker

The headsculpt we saw on the First Aid remold was definitely more Ratchet-based than Prowl-based (no central forehead crest, which is a key aspect of G1 Prowl's helmet), and anywho the Streetwise mold is virtually a Prowl body with a Streetwise head as it is.

Besides, it makes more sense for both First Aid and Ironhide to share a mold with Ratchet than with Prowl.

by **gothsaurus** » Mon May 11, 2015 11:57 am

I totally agree on the head being Ratchet. The sides angle out sharply, and the crest doesn't have the middle part like Prowl. It's very Ratchet all around. I wouldn't argue if they put out Ironhide and Ratchet. In fact, I'd be mad if they put one out without the other.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:44 pm

gothsaurus wrote:I totally agree on the head being Ratchet. The sides angle out sharply, and the crest doesn't have the middle part like Prowl. It's very Ratchet all around. I wouldn't argue if they put out Ironhide and Ratchet. In fact, I'd be mad if they put one out without the other.

Here's David Willis's latest digibash of the potential Ratchet remold:

by **gothsaurus** » Mon May 11, 2015 2:11 pm

That's really close to on point! If only they could flatten the chest area to take the blue "window" all the way across. BUT have to say, it's really decent. Head sculpt looks spot on IMHO. It may come close to taking Botcon Ratchet out of my #1 spot.... maybe....

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue May 12, 2015 12:57 pm

Is Blackjack worth owning by himself? I know his main appeal is that he's the chest piece to Menasor, but I won't get the Stunticons, so for me that's irrelevant. I saw Blackjack and Huffer at my Target yesterday and I almost picked him up, but was undecided. What made me hesitate was the thought that his function as the chest is the main purpose for the figure, and that his robot mode may suffer due to this. Does it? Or is it a well-poseable, solid figure?

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Tue May 12, 2015 1:02 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is Blackjack worth owning by himself? I know his main appeal is that he's the chest piece to Menasor, but I won't get the Stunticons, so for me that's irrelevant. I saw Blackjack and Huffer at my Target yesterday and I almost picked him up, but was undecided. What made me hesitate was the thought that his function as the chest is the main purpose for the figure, and that his robot mode may suffer due to this. Does it? Or is it a well-poseable, solid figure?

Yes he is, fun little figure with lots of personality. Fun transformation and very poseable. I like the mold enough that I will probably pick up the Rodimus repaint.

News Credits: 119 · by **megatronus** » Tue May 12, 2015 1:05 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is Blackjack worth owning by himself? I know his main appeal is that he's the chest piece to Menasor, but I won't get the Stunticons, so for me that's irrelevant. I saw Blackjack and Huffer at my Target yesterday and I almost picked him up, but was undecided. What made me hesitate was the thought that his function as the chest is the main purpose for the figure, and that his robot mode may suffer due to this. Does it? Or is it a well-poseable, solid figure?

I think you've got it backwards - he's a fun little figure who happens to be configurable as a chest plate. If his main purpose is to be a chest plate, than Powerglide's main purpose is to be a gun for Superion, which we know is not the case.

Blackjack's 100% worth getting on his own.

News Credits: 3 · by **MrBlack** » Tue May 12, 2015 1:19 pm

Blackjack is a fun, poseable figure with a great alt-mode. Definitely worth having.

The mold is being used for Rodimus sometime down the line, so you could always wait if you'd rather pick up a character you have more a connection to.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue May 12, 2015 1:40 pm

I'm definitely getting Rodimus. I'll pick up Blackjack as well. I just wasn't sure how much the chest feature dominates the figure. Thanks.

News Credits: 15 · by **galvatron00** » Tue May 12, 2015 2:27 pm

Wave 4 Legends pre-orders up at BBTS! http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/search.aspx?search=combiner%20legends%2004

by **Genericon #378** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:01 pm

There better not be some sort of Bumblebee cop-out.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:03 pm

I wish they had Rodimus and Groove in a 2-pack. I'd be all over that. I don't care for Skywarp.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:06 pm

itscramtastic wrote:Wave 4 Legends pre-orders up at BBTS! http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/search.aspx?search=combiner%20legends%2004

I saw this in my email.
32 bucks for two legends...
and 42 bucks for four legends?

Seriously am I seeing that right? :???:

News Credits: 4853 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:08 pm

Fellow Seibertronian Itscramtastic has just told us that Bigbadtoystore now has preorders for the wave 4 Combiner Wars Legends figures. The two new figures in wave 4 are Rodimus and Skywarp, both redecos of other Combiner Wars figures already released this year: Combiner Wars Blackjack and Thundercracker respectively (and we all know the later is a redeco of Starscream). These items are currently, and tentatively, slated for a June release.

They are available in 3 different assortments:

Generations Legends Combiner Wars 2015 Series 04 Revision 06 - Case of 8

2x TRA GEN LEGENDS PROTECTOBOT GROOVE
2x TRA GEN LEGENDS WARPATH
2x TRA GEN LEGENDS RODIMUS
2x TRA GEN LEGENDS SKYWARP

Generations Legends Combiner Wars 2015 Series 04 Revision 06 - Set of 4

1x TRA GEN LEGENDS PROTECTOBOT GROOVE
1x TRA GEN LEGENDS WARPATH
1x TRA GEN LEGENDS RODIMUS
1x TRA GEN LEGENDS SKYWARP

Generations Legends Combiner Wars 2015 Series 04 Revision 06 - Set of 2 (Rodimus & Skywarp)

1x TRA GEN LEGENDS RODIMUS
1x TRA GEN LEGENDS SKYWARP

News Credits: 4853 · by **william-james88** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:23 pm

Genericon #378 wrote:There better not be some sort of Bumblebee cop-out.

What do you mean by that?

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:24 pm

shajaki wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:Wave 4 Legends pre-orders up at BBTS! http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/search.aspx?search=combiner%20legends%2004
I saw this in my email.
32 bucks for two legends...
and 42 bucks for four legends?

Seriously am I seeing that right?

Probably because Groove and Warpath were available in a previous wave. So there will be an abundance of them. Business sense/inventory control vying against customer satisfaction, me thinks....

News Credits: 3 · by **MrBlack** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:33 pm

shajaki wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:Wave 4 Legends pre-orders up at BBTS! http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/search.aspx?search=combiner%20legends%2004
I saw this in my email.
32 bucks for two legends...
and 42 bucks for four legends?

Seriously am I seeing that right?

BBTS is really jacking up the prices on the Legends class figures that people want. Groove is $13.99, Rodimus and Skywarp are over $15 each and only available together, and Viper isn't even available as an individual figure. Keeping in mind that these are $9.99 at American retail.

Forget that.

News Credits: 3 · by **Shockwave7** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:38 pm

Great - wave4 Combiner wars legends 'available for pre-order'.

And Hasbrotoyshop.com doesn't even have wave3 listed yet. Why is Hasbro's official online distributor so woefully behind the curve when it comes to making their OWN products available? They are Hasbro - they've got the direct pipeline to the factories that make their own products. Yet for some reason, they're the absolute last to have them available.

Frustrating as snot.

by **Optimum Supreme** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:39 pm

megatronus wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Is Blackjack worth owning by himself? I know his main appeal is that he's the chest piece to Menasor, but I won't get the Stunticons, so for me that's irrelevant. I saw Blackjack and Huffer at my Target yesterday and I almost picked him up, but was undecided. What made me hesitate was the thought that his function as the chest is the main purpose for the figure, and that his robot mode may suffer due to this. Does it? Or is it a well-poseable, solid figure?

I think you've got it backwards - he's a fun little figure who happens to be configurable as a chest plate. If his main purpose is to be a chest plate, than Powerglide's main purpose is to be a gun for Superion, which we know is not the case.

Blackjack's 100% worth getting on his own.

I don't completely agree, especially at a $10 price point. I will say he doesn't suffer as a result of his combination status, as that mode is literally just his car mode, so if that's your only concern, yeah, he's fine, I just don't feel he's a great value for what he is on his own.

The Powerglide comparison doesn't fit, IMO, because Powerglide's a long standing character, with many notable appearances in fiction. Blackjacks a sorta homage of one character, with a sorta deco of another, with another sort of homage as part of Menasor and really not (yet anyway) a character with a real solid identity. That would be a much more valid comparison with the Hot Rod version of the mold.

None of which is to say you're wrong about Blackjack if you like him without considering Menasor. If you like him on his own great, but I just have a different opinion about his solo value.

News Credits: 458 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:40 pm

Shockwave7 wrote:They are Hasbro

That is a misnomer. HTS =/= Hasbro itself.

News Credits: 3 · by **Shockwave7** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:40 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Genericon #378 wrote:There better not be some sort of Bumblebee cop-out.

What do you mean by that?

He probably means we don't want another brazza-frakkin' Bumblebee figure.... Though making him part of a combiner like Neo Prime WOULD be the ideal way for Hasbro to force us into buying yet ANOTHER bleepity-bleep-bleep Bumblebee.....

News Credits: 3 · by **Shockwave7** » Tue May 12, 2015 3:45 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:They are Hasbro
That is a misnomer. HTS =/= Hasbro itself.

Is HTS then not Hasbro's official commercial online distributor? Do they not officially bear the logo of, and therefore represent, the toy manufacturer known on this planet under the nomenclature of "Hasbro" in terms of providing the products which are produced, manufactured and sold by the aforementioned company known Hasbro?