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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Downbeat » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:41 am

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Firstly, speaking as a transgender lady- the drag queen jokes ain't cool, guys. It was already super tacky for the writers to choose Drag Strip to be a girl in Stunticon Job, even if it's good to see more female versions of previously male characters.

Secondly, regarding MTMTE:
Sadly, lady Rung isn't a transgender Rung. She's a disciple of Rung, or at least what he represents as someone without a function for his alt mode. Roberts confirmed that she's a separate character.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:46 am

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Downbeat wrote:Firstly, speaking as a transgender lady- the drag queen jokes ain't cool, guys. It was already super tacky for the writers to choose Drag Strip to be a girl in Stunticon Job, even if it's good to see more female versions of previously male characters.

Secondly, regarding MTMTE:
Sadly, lady Rung isn't a transgender Rung. She's a disciple of Rung, or at least what he represents as someone without a function for his alt mode. Roberts confirmed that she's a separate character.


Well we are aware of that but what are we supposed to call her The alternate establishing timeline female transformer who may or may not be transgender or naturally female cybertronian whom looks like rung due to being disciple of rung, or just likes coke-bottle glasses?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:10 am

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Downbeat wrote:Firstly, speaking as a transgender lady- the drag queen jokes ain't cool, guys. It was already super tacky for the writers to choose Drag Strip to be a girl in Stunticon Job, even if it's good to see more female versions of previously male characters.

Secondly, regarding MTMTE:
Sadly, lady Rung isn't a transgender Rung. She's a disciple of Rung, or at least what he represents as someone without a function for his alt mode. Roberts confirmed that she's a separate character.


Well we are aware of that but what are we supposed to call her The alternate establishing timeline female transformer who may or may not be transgender or naturally female cybertronian whom looks like rung due to being disciple of rung, or just likes coke-bottle glasses?

Well I agree that naming her is problematic, we could just call her disciple.
Regardless, time stream problems won't be resolved till after combiner wars as elegant chaos will be still ongoing.

Motormaster looks awesome, you can tell that he was remolded into prime. In fact I wish that motormaster and silverbolt were getting released together at the start.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:42 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Motormaster looks awesome, you can tell that he was remolded into prime. In fact I wish that motormaster and silverbolt were getting released together at the start.
The one advantage I can see to releasing Prime in this wave instead of Motormaster is that retailers might be more inclined to stock more of this wave if they see that it has a brand new big Optimus Prime mold in it, since the Dec/Jan waves seem to be the least-stocked of most lines. Recall what happened to the wave with Waspinator/Skids/Goldfire/Dreadwing.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:08 am

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True, and prime is the most identifiable of transformers so he will stand out in the toy aisles
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:18 am

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Downbeat wrote:Firstly, speaking as a transgender lady- the drag queen jokes ain't cool, guys. It was already super tacky for the writers to choose Drag Strip to be a girl in Stunticon Job, even if it's good to see more female versions of previously male characters.

Downbeat, Please accept my apologies. I accept all forms of transformation.

I was actually happy to see that the Strongarm character from the new Robots In Disguise 2015 line is female but not designed stereotypically or overly feminine. It's about time a fembot looks like a kick butt war machine. Just like all the other robots.

Sabrblade wrote:The one advantage I can see to releasing Prime in this wave instead of Motormaster is that retailers might be more inclined to stock more of this wave if they see that it has a brand new big Optimus Prime mold in it, since the Dec/Jan waves seem to be the least-stocked of most lines. Recall what happened to the wave with Waspinator/Skids/Goldfire/Dreadwing.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:27 am

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Cobotron wrote:
Downbeat wrote:Firstly, speaking as a transgender lady- the drag queen jokes ain't cool, guys. It was already super tacky for the writers to choose Drag Strip to be a girl in Stunticon Job, even if it's good to see more female versions of previously male characters.
Downbeat, Please accept my apologies. I accept all forms of transformation.

I was actually happy to see that the Strongarm character from the new Robots In Disguise 2015 line is female but not designed stereotypically or overly feminine. It's about time a fembot looks like a kick butt war machine. Just like all the other robots.
let me just say, i also
meant no harm. a guy sometimes naively thinks he knows a thing or two about drag queens after his girlfriend makes him watch six seasons of ru pauls drag race :lol: :oops:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:48 pm

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RuPaul's Drag Race is Awesome, shajaki. Admit it, your girlfriend doesn't really have to twist your arm that hard to get you to watch. ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:55 pm

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And here I am the guy who knows actuall drag queens >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Peridot » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:59 pm

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I liked Animated Drag Strip, but the name/gender choice was a bit offensive.
And just for the record, not all of us are drag queens, nor are all drag queens transexual.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:15 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:RuPaul's Drag Race is Awesome, shajaki. Admit it, your girlfriend doesn't really have to twist your arm that hard to get you to watch. ;)
the first season, yeah she did. after that though its rather addicting. and ru paul is actually quite funny ;)

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And just for the record, not all of us are drag queens, nor are all drag queens transexual.
very aware of the facts. gender can be a very complicated thing... and labels arent always a good thing. either way, no harm meant ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:15 pm

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Metro Prime wrote:I liked Animated Drag Strip, but the name/gender choice was a bit offensive.
And just for the record, not all of us are drag queens, nor are all drag queens transexual.


But TFA Drag strip was neither a drag queen, nor transexual. The only actual "joke" involving her character design was that she was decod like The Pussy Wagon from kill bill; It was the fandom making jokes about drag strip's name and gender, not the creators. And for that matter, is it even a competent joke? Drag Strip jokes are like Beavis and Butt-head laughing at the word "thingy".
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:34 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Metro Prime wrote: Drag Strip jokes are like Beavis and Butt-head laughing at the word "thingy".

:lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Robogeek1973 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:27 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Motormaster looks awesome, you can tell that he was remolded into prime. In fact I wish that motormaster and silverbolt were getting released together at the start.


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:45 pm

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Robogeek1973 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Motormaster looks awesome, you can tell that he was remolded into prime. In fact I wish that motormaster and silverbolt were getting released together at the start.


You and me both man.


They are not? Damn
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:08 pm

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They are in wave 2 I think but I would of perfered it in wave 1
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:10 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:They are in wave 2 I think but I would of perfered it in wave 1


Wait, they are both in wave 2? So we only have Optimus in Wave 1? I dont think that's how it will go. I suspect we see Silverbolt Wave 1 from the way listings have been cropping up.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:18 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:They are in wave 2 I think but I would of perfered it in wave 1


Wait, they are both in wave 2? So we only have Optimus in Wave 1? I dont think that's how it will go. I suspect we see Silverbolt Wave 1 from the way listings have been cropping up.


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:19 pm

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Wait I thought it was two voyagers per wave?
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:32 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Wait I thought it was two voyagers per wave?


The assortment will start with Optimus Prime and Silverbolt. In the next wave (either 1.5 or 2), Motormaster will either be added, or replace one of the two.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RiddlerJ » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:11 pm

Is Silverbolt the combiner member with the most toys?

As popular as the Constructicons are, all of them are left in the dust considering the number of figures they have. Onslaught my be second in the number of figures.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:22 pm

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RiddlerJ wrote:Is Silverbolt the combiner member with the most toys?

As popular as the Constructicons are, all of them are left in the dust considering the number of figures they have. Onslaught my be second in the number of figures.


I think Onslaught has more. If they come out with him in an upcoming wave, it will be his 6th CHUG figure and 3rd Generations figure in 3 years.

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Postby Emerje » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:14 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Now, Optimus' arm being Dragstrip in the drawing has less assumptions than it being blast off. His arm being blast off assumes that there will be a blast off figure in that color scheme released, while there is no assumption to be made that dragstrip will be released, we already know he is.

Hence, there are less assumptions that Optimus is made up of those wave one figures than the yet to be revealed wave two figures. Occam's razor is the hypothesis with the least assumptions, and thus that Optimus drawing being of his combined form with the same transformers he is seen combined with on the back of his very own box is Occam's razor in this particular case.


From my perspective Occam's razor would side with me. You say that's Dragstrip in the art because he's on the back of Optimus' box, he's been shown combined with Optimus, and the colors are the same. I say it's not Dragstrip because in a piece of art that shows nearly 100% accurate versions of four other characters from the first wave that's not a car, it's something with wings. That's my one assumption vs your three. I'll concede that I have no possible way of knowing if that's Blast Off for sure, but I'll never be able to see Dragstrip in it.

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