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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:26 am

Flashwave wrote:I don't see it happening, bu it would largely fix the problem. Being that this is movie stuff, can Hasbro even do that, since a third party is involved in the mix (Paramount)? Seems to me like Paramount's involvement is why the movie modls don't show up in the Generations Repaints lines so would it work the other way? And also there's quite a bit of crap in the AOE lines as it is, is there even room for a half-dozen more figures?

The ROTF and DOTM lines were filled with several non-Paramount toys. The only thing that kept all of them from being non-movie toys were their bios and packaging.

But in 2010, they did exactly what I was suggesting in the HFTD line, in which we got Paramount-based movie molds, non-Paramount-based movie molds that could have been CHUG molds (but had bios and fiction that made them movie toys), and non-movie molds.

And the 2007 movie line had those Walmart exclusive Cybertron and Classics redecos that were intended for Classics/Universe, but were given to Walmart in the Movie line instead.

Either way, it is evident that Paramount isn't bothered by a toyline sharing molds with non-Paramount-designed molds.

News Credits: 3 · by **Midnight_Fox** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:54 am

Flashwave wrote:
It's not that simple. $1 to make, sure, but logistics costs (shipping, warehousing, more shipping,) make it an 8-10 profit, not 14.

Don't even bother, it's not worth it.

It sucks these are delayed, but not very surprising.

News Credits: 12 · by **GuyIncognito** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:04 am

Sabrblade wrote:
And the 2007 movie line had those Walmart exclusive Cybertron and Classics redecos that were intended for Classics/Universe, but were given to Walmart in the Movie line instead.

Target also had a line of exclusive repaints of Cybertron figures as part of the Movie line.

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:51 am

craggy wrote:I've stopped aiming them at kids. The kids move out of the way and then you've just got a broken toy that you've thrown across the room for nothing.

Just lawled!

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:21 pm

craggy wrote:
That Bot wrote:I sincerely hope everybody here has the maturity to acknowledge that we're buying plastic toys primarily aimed at kids.

I've stopped aiming them at kids. The kids move out of the way and then you've just got a broken toy that you've thrown across the room for nothing.

Well-played, sir!

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:24 pm

Didn't Hasbro say at Toy Fair that the Generations line would continue along side the Movie line, assuring us that there would be equal numbers of both? Or are the deluxe AOE toys considered Generations and that's how the line is continuing? Also we can no longer say the line is primarily aimed at kids since Hasbro again at Toy Fair mentioned the 18+ market, for the first time mind you.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 4:57 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Didn't Hasbro say at Toy Fair that the Generations line would continue along side the Movie line, assuring us that there would be equal numbers of both? Or are the deluxe AOE toys considered Generations and that's how the line is continuing? Also we can no longer say the line is primarily aimed at kids since Hasbro again at Toy Fair mentioned the 18+ market, for the first time mind you.

Technically speaking, the Deluxe and Voyager Classes are considered Generations Series M4 (Movie 4), with an age set to 8+ instead of 3+ or 5+. As stated before, it's likely that after the first two waves have hit (which should cover everyone in the movie), the regular Generations will resume.

What actually is going on I think, is that one or two release dates will be skipped in favor of the movie, and figures in both the canceled assortments and the future ones will be either be shuffled around, or, keeping in mind figures being carried over into later waves, left as is.

And please don't mention 18+ in a toy forum ever again... :oops:

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:49 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Didn't Hasbro say at Toy Fair that the Generations line would continue along side the Movie line, assuring us that there would be equal numbers of both? Or are the deluxe AOE toys considered Generations and that's how the line is continuing? Also we can no longer say the line is primarily aimed at kids since Hasbro again at Toy Fair mentioned the 18+ market, for the first time mind you.

Technically speaking, the Deluxe and Voyager Classes are considered Generations Series M4 (Movie 4), with an age set to 8+ instead of 3+ or 5+. As stated before, it's likely that after the first two waves have hit (which should cover everyone in the movie), the regular Generations will resume.

What actually is going on I think, is that one or two release dates will be skipped in favor of the movie, and figures in both the canceled assortments and the future ones will be either be shuffled around, or, keeping in mind figures being carried over into later waves, left as is.

And please don't mention 18+ in a toy forum ever again...

That's what I think too, especially since Hasbro went out of their way to assure us that they will come.

Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

News Credits: 3 · by **Midnight_Fox** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:46 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

I believe 18+ is to some countries what X/XXX is to Americans. It's notice of adult entertainment.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:13 am

Kapow! Toys just said this:

Generations Update! - Crosscut has been bumped until September 2014 - Tankor and Rattrap are now due July, none of them have been cancelled if you have ordered the 3 together we will ship Tankor and Rattrap when they are released and Crosscut in September at our own cost, any questions please email contact@kapowtoys.co.uk

News Credits: 118 · by **megatronus** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:38 am

Midnight_Fox wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

I believe 18+ is to some countries what X/XXX is to Americans. It's notice of adult entertainment.

That's hilarious. Oh, cultural differences.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:16 am

megatronus wrote:
Midnight_Fox wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

I believe 18+ is to some countries what X/XXX is to Americans. It's notice of adult entertainment.

That's hilarious. Oh, cultural differences.

Soooo what should we call it, "Post childhood non-Erotic-toy... toys"

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:26 pm

Va'al wrote:Kapow! Toys just said this:

Generations Update! - Crosscut has been bumped until September 2014 - Tankor and Rattrap are now due July, none of them have been cancelled if you have ordered the 3 together we will ship Tankor and Rattrap when they are released and Crosscut in September at our own cost, any questions please email contact@kapowtoys.co.uk

So then, Rattrap and Tankor will come within mere days of my birthday...

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:28 pm

Midnight_Fox wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

I believe 18+ is to some countries what X/XXX is to Americans. It's notice of adult entertainment.

OK, I'm an adult and they entertain me

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:32 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Midnight_Fox wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

I believe 18+ is to some countries what X/XXX is to Americans. It's notice of adult entertainment.

OK, I'm an adult and they entertain me

No no no, adult entertainment. As in the "bow chicka bow wow" kind of entertainment.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:33 pm

Adult as in "[Adult Swim]", not as in "a physically full grown person".

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:34 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Adult as in "[Adult Swim]", not as in "a physically full grown person".

That too.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:37 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Midnight_Fox wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

I believe 18+ is to some countries what X/XXX is to Americans. It's notice of adult entertainment.

OK, I'm an adult and they entertain me

No no no, adult entertainment. As in the "bow chicka bow wow" kind of entertainment.

You mean 70's funk? I love 70's funk. I really get down with myself.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:38 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Midnight_Fox wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ok, forgive my naviete but what's wrong with 18+?

I believe 18+ is to some countries what X/XXX is to Americans. It's notice of adult entertainment.

OK, I'm an adult and they entertain me

No no no, adult entertainment. As in the "bow chicka bow wow" kind of entertainment.

You mean 70's funk? I love 70's funk. I really get down with myself.

*facepalm*

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:40 pm

Drugs, language, sexual content, and violence.

Yeah, I said it.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:41 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Drugs, language, sexual content, and violence.

Yeah, I said it.

Thanks... I couldn't bring myself to say it explicitly, for whatever reason.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:51 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Drugs, language, sexual content, and violence.

Yeah, I said it.

Oh my, my fragile innocence is shattered. :wink:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:53 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Drugs, language, sexual content, and violence.

Yeah, I said it.

Oh my, my fragile innocence is shattered.

You're welcome. :twisted:

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:36 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Drugs, language, sexual content, and violence.

Yeah, I said it.

Oh my, my fragile innocence is shattered.
You're welcome.

I think these last few posts are some of the best ever in Seibertron history. We should get an award or something.

by **lonrac** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:29 am

love when the conversation moves away from topic.......

This side of the pond ( uk) the stores still have prime stuff so are obviously not doing the 30th anniversary in favour of the Movie line, which will probably hit a month or so after the movie ( just kidding)

so with the Generations waves cancelled, will Arcee, Chromia and Crosscut be part of the 2015 line?