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News Credits: 65 · Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:17 pm

Zeedust wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?

They might need to know how many to "order" from Takara Tomy to make sure there are enough produced to meet demand by their release in late January 2020.

News Credits: 7 · Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:17 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?
Hasbro is in the business of making money. They will not stop until they have sucked all our bank accounts dry!

How would they lose money by giving us more time to buy the same things?

Wolfman Jake wrote:They might need to know how many to "order" from Takara Tomy to make sure there are enough produced to meet demand by their release in late January 2020.

I suppose that makes some sense, but in that case, why not start the preorders earlier? It's still a fairly narrow window they're leaving.

News Credits: 462 · Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:41 pm

Zeedust wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Zeedust wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:What is it with the whole "pre-order by this date even though it's still several months out" mindset?

And why is the date in question always less than a month from the announcement? Seriously, Hasbro, would it kill you to let us catch our breath?
Hasbro is in the business of making money. They will not stop until they have sucked all our bank accounts dry!

How would they lose money by giving us more time to buy the same things?

It's our money and they need it NOW! MWAHAHAHA!

Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:49 pm

Welp she looks good, dosnt hold the foot peg really well tho, so might switch her with one of the arms if I decide to display her combined. But Lancer was well worth the wait.

Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:04 pm

Just pre-ordered Gulf and Turtler. Given how far away the shipping date is, I wonder how long it's gonna take to release all of them? Will it be a four-ish month wait from when those go up for pre-order as well?

News Credits: 1646 · Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:46 pm

Vic Zanzibar wrote:Just pre-ordered Gulf and Turtler. Given how far away the shipping date is, I wonder how long it's gonna take to release all of them? Will it be a four-ish month wait from when those go up for pre-order as well?

I am going to hazard a guess that it will be 3 months between each pair, and we will get 2 in January, 2 in April, and 2 in July

News Credits: 1646 · Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:52 pm

I think this makes a pretty good Target exclusive team;

News Credits: 332 · Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:09 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think this makes a pretty good Target exclusive team;

That, that right there is what we call money folks. Learn from your mod.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:21 am

william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:You're right, I can't know for sure that the Seacons are limited, but it would be unusual for an exclusive not to be. We can't always look at post release availability as proof of normal release numbers. Look at Legends Grand Maximus, we know for a fact that there's less than 3,000 of those in the world and they're still readily available, sometimes at a discount.

Thats another assumption and far from a fact. The only thing we are sure of is that TTMall got less than 3000 orders, and thats it. We dont know if the ones sold outside japan through different distributors (Hasbro asia, usually), count into that, which is why he does seem so plentiful outside of japan. Hence why i was only referring to the japanese market in my example of combiners. Once again, when it comes to numbers, nothing can be assumed.

I'll admit, I completely forgot to factor in Hasbro Asia's release, but that wasn't really the point anyway. They only needed to sell 2,000 to turn a profit on their exclusive and in the end, to cover all of their orders, they sold less than 3,000. Now, that's a bit of an extreme case since it's a big and expensive release, but I bet that's the smallest number of Titans they ever produced by a fairly large margin. I probably shouldn't say they're always produced in smaller numbers, but it has to be more often than not, with the ones that are produced in high numbers being packed with caveats to explain why. Maybe the Seacons are produced in the same numbers world wide as the Terrorcons, but I just can't see it.

Emerje

Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:21 pm

...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

News Credits: 56 · Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:28 pm

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

They actually did have them up, for a very short period, a day before HP and most of the other online retailers (search back in the thread). Not sure if there was a glitch, but they were only up for maybe an hour. Gulf seemingly sold out incredibly quickly, then the listings were removed. However at least one person here said their pre-order went through.

I imagine in time they will have them again, not sure what the hold up is.

News Credits: 1646 · Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:43 pm

Jeddostotle7 wrote:...Anyone know why BBTS hasn't put the Turtler and Gulf up for order yet? I've been waiting for them to do it since that's where I usually order most things, but I'm getting a bit worried I might miss them if they for some reason never end up putting them up for preorder.

Yeah they went up, but then down. Might be a glitch, or maybe they sold out of their original stock. Not sure, but I am confident they will go back up soon

News Credits: 2 · Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:42 am

So.....
I know some find the subject taboo
But...
I am wondering if I should
A) buy the Selects versions ASAP
B) buy the beautiful TFC Toys version
C) wait and buy the inevitable 4th party oversized version.

:-?

News Credits: 12 · Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:33 pm

Z3ROhour wrote:So.....
I know some find the subject taboo
But...
I am wondering if I should
A) buy the Selects versions ASAP
B) buy the beautiful TFC Toys version
C) wait and buy the inevitable 4th party oversized version.

Well, I've heard the TFC Toys Piranacon has trouble holding up his Targetmaster. So the Selects version's definitely going to struggle. Other than that, it's purely price, design, size decisions

News Credits: 1350 · Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:19 am

Personally I'd give my money to the official product though in this case the official product is just as rich for my tastes as the other stuff :lol:

Though this is the sort of ideas we need to encourage

News Credits: 1646 · Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:25 pm

Finally ordered Greenlight Thursday. And I shipped Ricochet and Swoop today as well, so they should all be here next week I'd guess.

Now to wait on Lancer to have my final combiner limb (besides King Poseidon). That is going to be a long 2 to 3 months

News Credits: 12 · Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:30 am

I apologize if this doesn't belong in this topic, but given Mastermind Creations recent reveals of their prototype for their take on Armada Prime, when do you all expect to see more on the initial prototype Takara showed off at one of the cons?

I'm hoping we see more soon, mostly because I've always loved Armada Prime's design and Takara's looks to be the best yet. Especially if they create a new Jetfire and Overload.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:03 am

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I apologize if this doesn't belong in this topic, but given Mastermind Creations recent reveals of their prototype for their take on Armada Prime, when do you all expect to see more on the initial prototype Takara showed off at one of the cons?

I'm hoping we see more soon, mostly because I've always loved Armada Prime's design and Takara's looks to be the best yet. Especially if they create a new Jetfire and Overload.

I'm guessing around the time the first wave of Seacons are released in late January 2020, which happens to line up with Wonder Festival 2020 Winter on Feb 9, 2020. I would like to be wrong and it shows up soon, maybe in a magazine or obscure convention since Star Convoy is due out in late September. But I suspect they're going to get through the Seacons before he's actually released.

Emerje

News Credits: 56 · Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:30 am

Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed the Seacons are coming sooner than later, but I do think it is odd we have seen a silhouette of what we presume will be a *Super Megatron*, then a production model of Armada Prime first. I know TT has the authority of course to prioritize their own products, but for fans of those more obscure characters, maybe just a *were gonna circle back around on this* comment or something online, or in a magazine would give fans something to anticipate.

News Credits: 4877 · Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:34 am

o.supreme wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed the Seacons are coming sooner than later, but I do think it is odd we have seen a silhouette of what we presume will be a *Super Megatron*, then a production model of Armada Prime first. I know TT has the authority of course to prioritize their own products, but for fans of those more obscure characters, maybe just a *were gonna circle back around on this* comment or something online, or in a magazine would give fans something to anticipate.

I agree its odd. But this is the same company who revealed a fully painted MP Hound and then kept ignoring him for months on end.

News Credits: 12 · Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:39 am

o.supreme wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm overjoyed the Seacons are coming sooner than later, but I do think it is odd we have seen a silhouette of what we presume will be a *Super Megatron*, then a production model of Armada Prime first. I know TT has the authority of course to prioritize their own products, but for fans of those more obscure characters, maybe just a *were gonna circle back around on this* comment or something online, or in a magazine would give fans something to anticipate.

At least it won't be like some of the toys from the 4th season of Animated, where we saw some of the thoughts and models, but they never got made because Animated got cancelled. Takara's currently using the Selects line almost as a replacement to the Legends line given the amount of projects they've been making without Hasbro input

News Credits: 1646 · Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:36 pm

I am ready to see Armada Prime in color and Super Megatron in more than a shadow. I wish we could at least see them

News Credits: 4877 · Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:57 am

We finally have an official reveal of sorts for two new Transformers toys, which we didn't get a great look at yet. These are Transformers Generations Selects Nightbird And Powerdasher Zetar, made from Siege Chromia and Brunt. The official images are of the actual toys and not renders. They come from TakaraTomy Mall, which has pre-orders up for the Japanese community. It is not confirmed who will carry them in the US, though they are more likely to be online exclusives of some sort, as are all Generations Select toys.

On the TTMall site, they are priced at ¥ 4,104 (US$ 38.50), though this info benefits more any japanese fan reading this. The release date from Takara is September 7th, 2019. However, the pre-orders will only be available until the supplies last.

Let us know what you think of these toys!