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SpikeyTigertron wrote:My guess is, their shipment recieved may have not met their pre-order quantities, and for some reason they're not canceling? I can't imagine they found a *slower* boat than the one Hasbro used. Some of it could just distribution/port/fraight issues... but yeah... a month lag is crazy. Especially when Amazon JP can shoot things over in 3 days.

Except no one who ordered from TFsource have gotten them yet, and they have yet to say they are coming in stock/are in stock in their newsletters either, and those would be trumpeted

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

Skritz wrote:Man I want this set for Frenzy Rumble 'The Blue Guy' and Wingthing more than Powermaster partners-as-casettes.

I do think it was strange that they packaged "the rest of the team" with the "power masters" but I suppose considering the alternative was 2 individual w packs... I can see why they wanted to shoot for a $20 price point.

Makes me wonder if the eventual Blaster Casettes will be handled the same way. Also surprised we didn't get Enemy and Howlback since they got MP releases...

Howlback's never gotten an MP release. She has her original figure, and the recolor of TR Ravage that came out in the Bumblebee movie line... and that's it for her so far.

Also, why haven't we gotten a Buzzsaw? We've gotten all Soundwave's other minions.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:My guess is, their shipment recieved may have not met their pre-order quantities, and for some reason they're not canceling? I can't imagine they found a *slower* boat than the one Hasbro used. Some of it could just distribution/port/fraight issues... but yeah... a month lag is crazy. Especially when Amazon JP can shoot things over in 3 days.

Except no one who ordered from TFsource have gotten them yet, and they have yet to say they are coming in stock/are in stock in their newsletters either, and those would be trumpeted

has TFSource not gotten *any* of them in?! Maybe... their supplier dropped the ball in Japan or TakTom Mall screwed them... But you'd think *they would be told* that and not leave their customers on the hook.

Bounti76 wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

Skritz wrote:Man I want this set for Frenzy Rumble 'The Blue Guy' and Wingthing more than Powermaster partners-as-casettes.

I do think it was strange that they packaged "the rest of the team" with the "power masters" but I suppose considering the alternative was 2 individual w packs... I can see why they wanted to shoot for a $20 price point.

Makes me wonder if the eventual Blaster Casettes will be handled the same way. Also surprised we didn't get Enemy and Howlback since they got MP releases...

Howlback's never gotten an MP release. She has her original figure, and the recolor of TR Ravage that came out in the Bumblebee movie line... and that's it for her so far.

Also, why haven't we gotten a Buzzsaw? We've gotten all Soundwave's other minions.

I haven't seen any rumors of a Siege/Selects Blaster, and I think we would have had one by now, so "eventual" seems wildly optimistic. I'm not sure there's much value in that set without a new mold for Ramhorn. I'm not holding my breath for a new Blaster or tapes, though we'll see what WfC3 has to offer next year.

Bounti76 wrote:Also, why haven't we gotten a Buzzsaw? We've gotten all Soundwave's other minions.

Because the Laserbeak mold is gangmolded with the Ravage mold. To get a Buzzsaw, we would need another two-pack with the Ravage mold.

But since there is no red plastic on Siege Ravage, it is likely the black and gray that they share, so we would need another use of Ravage molded in black and gray plastic to get a properly-colored Buzzsaw.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:Also, why haven't we gotten a Buzzsaw? We've gotten all Soundwave's other minions.

Because the Laserbeak mold is gangmolded with the Ravage mold. To get a Buzzsaw, we would need another two-pack with the Ravage mold.

But since there is no red plastic on Siege Ravage, it is likely the black and gray that they share, so we would need another use of Ravage molded in black and gray plastic to get a properly-colored Buzzsaw.

So, they basically molded themselves into a corner. Kind of weird for a design team so focused on early G1 to not have a clear plan for Buzzsaw, but to use the Ratbat mold 3 times.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:My guess is, their shipment recieved may have not met their pre-order quantities, and for some reason they're not canceling? I can't imagine they found a *slower* boat than the one Hasbro used. Some of it could just distribution/port/fraight issues... but yeah... a month lag is crazy. Especially when Amazon JP can shoot things over in 3 days.

Except no one who ordered from TFsource have gotten them yet, and they have yet to say they are coming in stock/are in stock in their newsletters either, and those would be trumpeted

has TFSource not gotten *any* of them in?! Maybe... their supplier dropped the ball in Japan or TakTom Mall screwed them... But you'd think *they would be told* that and not leave their customers on the hook.

They got the first 4, I paid for them 2 months ago. They got those ones in on time. The final 2, no.

It is baffling with them, they've gotten new Earthrise and Cyberverse and SS stuff since too, so I am now legit worried like you said that they were shorted and I've lost out on the final 2, which includes the 1 I wanted most

Sabrblade wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:Also, why haven't we gotten a Buzzsaw? We've gotten all Soundwave's other minions.

Because the Laserbeak mold is gangmolded with the Ravage mold. To get a Buzzsaw, we would need another two-pack with the Ravage mold.

But since there is no red plastic on Siege Ravage, it is likely the black and gray that they share, so we would need another use of Ravage molded in black and gray plastic to get a properly-colored Buzzsaw.

Hell, they don't even need to assemble/paint cat character B, just give me Buzzsaw already dammit.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:My guess is, their shipment recieved may have not met their pre-order quantities, and for some reason they're not canceling? I can't imagine they found a *slower* boat than the one Hasbro used. Some of it could just distribution/port/fraight issues... but yeah... a month lag is crazy. Especially when Amazon JP can shoot things over in 3 days.

Except no one who ordered from TFsource have gotten them yet, and they have yet to say they are coming in stock/are in stock in their newsletters either, and those would be trumpeted

has TFSource not gotten *any* of them in?! Maybe... their supplier dropped the ball in Japan or TakTom Mall screwed them... But you'd think *they would be told* that and not leave their customers on the hook.

They got the first 4, I paid for them 2 months ago. They got those ones in on time. The final 2, no.

It is baffling with them, they've gotten new Earthrise and Cyberverse and SS stuff since too, so I am now legit worried like you said that they were shorted and I've lost out on the final 2, which includes the 1 I wanted most

More puzzling still is that the pre-order for those 2 is still available, you can *seemingly* still pre-order them right now

o.supreme wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:My guess is, their shipment recieved may have not met their pre-order quantities, and for some reason they're not canceling? I can't imagine they found a *slower* boat than the one Hasbro used. Some of it could just distribution/port/fraight issues... but yeah... a month lag is crazy. Especially when Amazon JP can shoot things over in 3 days.

Except no one who ordered from TFsource have gotten them yet, and they have yet to say they are coming in stock/are in stock in their newsletters either, and those would be trumpeted

has TFSource not gotten *any* of them in?! Maybe... their supplier dropped the ball in Japan or TakTom Mall screwed them... But you'd think *they would be told* that and not leave their customers on the hook.

They got the first 4, I paid for them 2 months ago. They got those ones in on time. The final 2, no.

It is baffling with them, they've gotten new Earthrise and Cyberverse and SS stuff since too, so I am now legit worried like you said that they were shorted and I've lost out on the final 2, which includes the 1 I wanted most

More puzzling still is that the pre-order for those 2 is still available, you can *seemingly* still pre-order them right now

I actually did preorder another set a couple of days ago, just in case Pulse never does put any "extra" figures up.

The Spy Patrol 3rd wheel unit just showed up. I was surprised just how thin the box was. I expected them in the deluxe sized box. Good to see that it's not a one size fits all scenario.



It's a super cool box and it was awesome to discover that it could be turned inside out to make a giant cassette tape!



I was fairly dismissive of the powermaster bots, but they are very nice. I'm just really glad to have a complete set of Siege Frumbles.


tiny bro fist

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:Also, why haven't we gotten a Buzzsaw? We've gotten all Soundwave's other minions.

Because the Laserbeak mold is gangmolded with the Ravage mold. To get a Buzzsaw, we would need another two-pack with the Ravage mold.

But since there is no red plastic on Siege Ravage, it is likely the black and gray that they share, so we would need another use of Ravage molded in black and gray plastic to get a properly-colored Buzzsaw.

So, they basically molded themselves into a corner. Kind of weird for a design team so focused on early G1 to not have a clear plan for Buzzsaw, but to use the Ratbat mold 3 times.

Buzzsaw didn't appear in the cartoon in a Cybertronian form unlike Laserbeak, so he wasn't that high a priority it seems. The design team will get theirs in the end, we're talking about the one who brought down Omega Supreme in the comics
Wingthing was more of a "why not" to go with Frenzy I think, and I suspect both were initially unplanned. Knok and Skar were... eventually as pretools tend to be saved until a venue comes around.

What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

carytheone wrote:The Spy Patrol 3rd wheel unit just showed up. I was surprised just how thin the box was. I expected them in the deluxe sized box. Good to see that it's not a one size fits all scenario.

It's a super cool box and it was awesome to discover that it could be turned inside out to make a giant cassette tape!

That is pretty cool, and might explain why despite shipping last between the tapes and the last 2 seacons, they will arrive first. Hasbro/Fedex seem to be having some weird issues this week. I had 4 items between Pulse and HTS vis Ebay send Fedex notifications between Saturday and Monday morning and right now the 4 are projected arrive in reverse order of when they "shipped" or at least had labels created.

The plus side is I'm kind of on the toy a day program from now until Saturday.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The plus side is I'm kind of on the toy a day program from now until Saturday.

Now that's a subscription box service I'd sign up for

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Technically, one of the Powermaster Partner for Doubledealer is an Autobot.

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Technically, one of the Powermaster Partner for Doubledealer is an Autobot.

Yes, but in this set, he is called out as a Decepticon

YAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSS

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Technically, one of the Powermaster Partner for Doubledealer is an Autobot.

Yes, but in this set, he is called out as a Decepticon

And it's not a 2-pack. It's a Selects 4-pack.

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Technically, one of the Powermaster Partner for Doubledealer is an Autobot.

Yes, but in this set, he is called out as a Decepticon

And it's not a 2-pack. It's a Selects 4-pack.

According to Pulse, Knock is an Autobot.

hasbropulse.com wrote:This special edition Generations Selects WFC-GS10 Soundwave Spy Patrol (3rd Unit) 4-Pack is inspired by the G1 mini-cassettes. Decepticon Rumble, Decepticon Wingthing, Decepticon Skar and Autobot Knok alt modes fit inside the chests of WFC-S25 Soundwave and WFC-S55 Soundblaster figures (each sold separately, subject to availability).

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Technically, one of the Powermaster Partner for Doubledealer is an Autobot.

Yes, but in this set, he is called out as a Decepticon

And it's not a 2-pack. It's a Selects 4-pack.

According to Pulse, Knock is an Autobot.

Nevertheless, Selects releases bend the rules of mass retail WFC toys.

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Technically, one of the Powermaster Partner for Doubledealer is an Autobot.

Yes, but in this set, he is called out as a Decepticon

And it's not a 2-pack. It's a Selects 4-pack.

According to Pulse, Knock is an Autobot.

Nevertheless, Selects releases bend the rules of mass retail WFC toys.

That's probably why this is such a funky pack. Knock has to be an Autobot or else it wouldn't work with the Doubledealer and his flip-flopping insignia. I can't remember, was Doubledealer and this pack announced at the same time? I think he wasn't and that's why they only mention Soundwave and Soundblaster on the store page.

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Skritz wrote:What about releasing Buzzsaw with Stripes, should an Earthrise Blaster ever show up?

Hasbro has yet to do any Micromaster 2-packs containing members of opposing factions in this trilogy. It seems like they want to keep the 2-packs to having just one faction.

Technically, one of the Powermaster Partner for Doubledealer is an Autobot.

Yes, but in this set, he is called out as a Decepticon

And it's not a 2-pack. It's a Selects 4-pack.

According to Pulse, Knock is an Autobot.

Nevertheless, Selects releases bend the rules of mass retail WFC toys.

That's probably why this is such a funky pack. Knock has to be an Autobot or else it wouldn't work with the Doubledealer and his flip-flopping insignia. I can't remember, was Doubledealer and this pack announced at the same time? I think he wasn't and that's why they only mention Soundwave and Soundblaster on the store page.

If memory serves, Doubledealer was announced at the time, but there wasn't any confirmation that he'd have any interactivity with this Micromasters outside of the 5mm pegs. Might be wrong on that though. I just remember thinking about pre-ordering and then seeing that the dates were like 4 months apart with the 4 pack coming in May, and Doubledealer coming in September before he was moved up to July

Sentinel_Primal wrote:If memory serves, Doubledealer was announced at the time, but there wasn't any confirmation that he'd have any interactivity with this Micromasters outside of the 5mm pegs. Might be wrong on that though. I just remember thinking about pre-ordering and then seeing that the dates were like 4 months apart with the 4 pack coming in May, and Doubledealer coming in September before he was moved up to July

Doubledealer was announced first, then it was discovered he had a special compartment for the cassettes. Not long after that, the 4-pack was announced.