The Energon Pub

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wonder if anyone's come up with a good one for PotP Grimlock. I challenge people to try. Since he seems not to understand how anyone can consider that Grimmy a quality toy, I especially challenge Rodimus Prime to try.

First, I never said I couldn't understand why other people think he's a good figure.

Not in as many words, but some of your remarks gave me that impression.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Second, since I do think PoTP Grimlock is an underwhelming figure in his official modes, what are the chances that a fan mode (which are rarely better than the official ones for any figure) will not be even worse?

Pretty slim, but I figured that extensively futzing with him to try and create one stood a chance of changing your current opinion Admittedly, possibly for the worse.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I wonder if anyone's come up with a good one for PotP Grimlock. I challenge people to try. Since he seems not to understand how anyone can consider that Grimmy a quality toy, I especially challenge Rodimus Prime to try.

First, I never said I couldn't understand why other people think he's a good figure.

Not in as many words, but some of your remarks gave me that impression.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Second, since I do think PoTP Grimlock is an underwhelming figure in his official modes, what are the chances that a fan mode (which are rarely better than the official ones for any figure) will not be even worse?

Pretty slim, but I figured that extensively futzing with him to try and create one stood a chance of changing your current opinion Admittedly, possibly for the worse.

Honestly, to me it's just the fact that Grimlock is not like a regular bipedal bot. His legs are thicker in robot mode, and his dino head is a nuisance as back kibble. Having said that, I haven't actually tried to fiddle with him, I'm basing this on my perception and previous handling of him.

As for Selects, I wonder, will we get any leader or even *gasp* commander class Selects figures?

We already got 2 selects Leaders: Shackwave and Star Convoy

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:We already got 2 selects Leaders: Shackwave and Star Convoy

Oh. Right. I forgot. will the new Megatron be considered a leader?

Commander class would be interesting to see but I can't think of anyone they could redeco Jetfire or Sky Lynx into. Their bodies (especially the magnificent sky Lynx) are too much them to be anyone else... Other then Shattered Glass versions.

Don't have to be redecos. Unless that's a Selects requirement? (Or just makes financial sense for HasTak.)

Rodimus Prime wrote:Don't have to be redecos. Unless that's a Selects requirement? (Or just makes financial sense for HasTak.)

Hasbro selects: new head retool at most
Takara: heavy retooling, but more expensive to obtain

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Don't have to be redecos. Unless that's a Selects requirement? (Or just makes financial sense for HasTak.)

Hasbro selects: new head retool at most
Takara: heavy retooling, but more expensive to obtain

Which answers Rodimus' earlier question, Super Megs will be a (pricey) Voyager.

ZeroWolf wrote:Commander class would be interesting to see but I can't think of anyone they could redeco Jetfire or Sky Lynx into. Their bodies (especially the magnificent sky Lynx) are too much them to be anyone else... Other then Shattered Glass versions.

Jetfire into Zardak:

So anyone hear if pulse shipped out the 3rd wave of Seacons yet? If they get them before TFSource, I hope they have extra so I can cancel my TFS order and save some money

With the other Seacons, the non-preorder stock didn't go up until well after those waves shipped. I just got Snaptrap today. I also ordered the third pair on TFSource, but only recently, so I'm not sure if I'll get mine fulfilled right away.

AcademyofDrX wrote:With the other Seacons, the non-preorder stock didn't go up until well after those waves shipped. I just got Snaptrap today. I also ordered the third pair on TFSource, but only recently, so I'm not sure if I'll get mine fulfilled right away.

My final pair is also on pre-order with TFsource, no signs of them coming in stock yet, not even an "in-stock" soon advertisement on the sponsor news. They are very far behind the curve with these

Since Hasbro suddenly likes to use NASA logos I fully expect us to get a black and white Astrotrain with NASA logos on the shuttle in Selects. Not sure if NASA would approve of use of their logo on a Decepticon (I checked, the logos require permission to use), they may have to rename him (NOT Galaxy Shuttle) and include faction stickers for the rest of us.

Emerje

o.supreme wrote:So anyone hear if pulse shipped out the 3rd wave of Seacons yet? If they get them before TFSource, I hope they have extra so I can cancel my TFS order and save some money

No, just the generic, they will be shipping soon email. My guess is they ship out this weekend. Most of my recent orders from them have shipped on a Saturday.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Honestly, to me it's just the fact that Grimlock is not like a regular bipedal bot. His legs are thicker in robot mode, and his dino head is a nuisance as back kibble. Having said that, I haven't actually tried to fiddle with him, I'm basing this on my perception and previous handling of him.

Well, both of those are kinda baked into the vintage design; any Grimlock based on it is going to have that some degree or other. Even MP-8 has the dino head flopped on his back. Does it at least have a tab to secure it?
And hey, a dino head on one's back can be useful.

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for Selects, I wonder, will we get any[...] *gasp* commander class Selects figures?

Possibly. Given that Takara is treating Selects as an extension of UW and Legends, we may even see a Titan-class Selects figure. A bigger, better version of a certain Frail Grail.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:So anyone hear if pulse shipped out the 3rd wave of Seacons yet? If they get them before TFSource, I hope they have extra so I can cancel my TFS order and save some money

No, just the generic, they will be shipping soon email. My guess is they ship out this weekend. Most of my recent orders from them have shipped on a Saturday.

Just a moment ago I had two holds show up on my bank account for the last two Seacons. With all the mail delays as of late I think you're right about shipping this weekend. It's not like the old days when they'd ship the same day they were charged an arrive the same day they get around to telling you they shipped. Those days will be back soon enough.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:(I checked, the logos require permission to use), they may have to rename him (NOT Galaxy Shuttle) and include faction stickers for the rest of us.

By this do you mean Hasbro cannot name a new toy Galaxy Shuttle, or you would just prefer they didn't?

Also if Pulse is going to ship out the 3rd wave this weekend, I'm definitely going to keep a close eye to see if these 2 come in stock soon after. Not sure what is going on with TFSource, they still have the pre-order available for the last set...

are they prone to overestimating, then cancelling what they cannot fulfill? I've never pre-ordered from them before until now, only purchased items in stock. Not keen on the fact that they took my payment immediately, I hope I can get a refund as easy if it becomes necessary.

Part of me hope Takara could take this opportunity:

Why not? It's similar to how Powermaster Prime/Ginrai was based off CW Ultra Magnus.

I have the entire set preordered via TFSource, and generally, they were added to my Pile of Loot about a week or so after they were released in Japan (I have Snaptrap, Seawing, Skalor, and Nautilator waiting in stock). Overbite and Tentakil were released in Japan on March 27th, though, and their Expected Date was moved from March to April. My guess is that Coronavirus has delayed however they get their shipments, and that Hasbro's came over by a different method.

Skritz wrote:Why not? It's similar to how Powermaster Prime/Ginrai was based off CW Ultra Magnus.

More like Fort Max outta Metroplex, and we all know how that turned out.

If they do Star Saber, they need to do right by him, not shoehorn him out of a mold that looks nothing like him.

That pic has forced an awkward mistransformation onto Jetfire to try to mimic Star Saber's transformation, fooling people into thinking Jetfire would make a good Star Saber when the two have tangibly nothing in common between each other.

I'm siding with Sabrblade on this one. The mold would need reworking from the ground up, so much so it'd be easier just making a new mold. At least that way they could build in the connection ports for Victory Leo. We need Generations Starsaber but not at any cost.

I can see the general idea here. But one thing is sure. Star Saber should be his own original mold. Then make Victory Leo as a leader class "armor guy."

o.supreme wrote:

Emerje wrote:(I checked, the logos require permission to use), they may have to rename him (NOT Galaxy Shuttle) and include faction stickers for the rest of us.

By this do you mean Hasbro cannot name a new toy Galaxy Shuttle, or you would just prefer they didn't?

I don't think the name would fit right and it's a little too generic on its own to be used as a name in the west. It would make a great title (like Galaxy Man Soundwave), bit I don't think "Galaxy Shuttle Astrotrain" would make a lot of sense either with Autobot symbols. I'd probably be fine with them borrowing the Mini-con name "Sky Blast" though I'm sure that would just annoy people, too.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm siding with Sabrblade on this one. The mold would need reworking from the ground up, so much so it'd be easier just making a new mold. At least that way they could build in the connection ports for Victory Leo. We need Generations Starsaber but not at any cost.

Plus, Commander class Star Saber really should be a retail figure, not a Selects. Especially not a Takara Tomy selects because those Commander class figures have a Japanese MSRP of $185 and would cost more as a Selects, at which point you'd be better off just getting the MP with its chrome swords and minimum die cast.

Emerje