The Energon Pub

Am I the only one excited to get some Voltron II-style combiners?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:GoKenzan and GoGekisou? Something tells me that's only the names when Kenzan Samurai and Gekisoumaru are on top. I'm expecting the other combos to be named as such:

Samurai Team
Jinbu on top: GoJinbu
Ganou on top: GoGanou

Ninja Team
Hishomaru on top: GoHisho
Sensuimaru on top: GoSensui

Basically, drop either "Samurai" or "-maru" and add "Go" in front.

That sounds likely, yes.

I have read all the pots here and it seems everyone has missed the fact that while reminicent of the Brave series, I suspect this is not the case anymore.

Anytime there is a popular toy selling in Japan, usually the toy comapnies will compete and try to cash in.

The brave series itself was spawned from declining sale of Transformers in Japan due to Sentai toys selling big over there during that time period. So Brave went the way of 'Gattai' like the Sentai toys were doing. So you got Sentai, then Brave (Takara) and Raijin-Oh (Tomy)around the same time period to compete with each other.

Now there is a new show called Gyrozetter by Bandai which is basically Pokemon for Robots with the typical kid who goes to school at 9 and is able to get a liscence to drive a transformable car. The animation is ok and has the typical kids show look. So to cash in Takara wants to get into the act as well with the Transformers Go!

It took a while but it dawned on me that there is a reason for this and it looks like maybe this Gyrozetter toyline is a hot seller with kids. Takara designs look very similar to the Gyrozetter toys. So to me this is why they are releasing the line.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=BAN14522&mode=retail

Nope, nee, nein, naõ.

I'm steering clear of this. Has little to do with Transformers imho.

Fall Of Cybertron is hitting it right on the head, why don't they make a direct to dvd short series about that?

I like the stories written by the West, Japanese are good at designing the figures and painting.

But I am fully onboard if they do a more teens aimed Gundam like series of Transformers.

If only the actual combined figure looked as good as that artwork.

Poyguimogul wrote:Looks like King of Braves meets digimon.

O_O That's it! That's the look! I couldn't figure it out. It was driving me insane. Thank you!

Yeah, if I wanted Brave, I'd collect Brave. If I wanted Digimon, I'd collect Digimon.
I want neither attached to Transformers.

(Yes, yes, I know, I'm not their intended audience and I know that no one's holding a gun to my head forcing me to buy it, I know. Jus' sayin'.)

3 points I'd like to make.

1. Nice one UltraPrimal
2. I'll be getting those combiners as I need some.
3. Hasbro better do something different next year. Anything but adapt this.

Manterax Prime wrote:3 points I'd like to make.

1. Nice one UltraPrimal
2. I'll be getting those combiners as I need some.
3. Hasbro better do something different next year. Anything but adapt this.

Nothing to adapt next year. No need with movie #4 coming.

This looks interesting and exciting to me. It could turn out terrible, but we don't really know anything about it outside of the characters pictured here.

It's kind of funny how people are rushing to judge this one in the same fashion they did when all we knew of TF Prime was Bumblebee and the kids if I recall correctly. Not that I imagine this will appeal to western tastes.

Autobot032 wrote:Is this the 10th. anniversary of Energon or something?

This seems like a step back, honestly. If it does come here, it's kinda switchin' gears in the wrong direction.

Well, Japanese CGI tends to be pretty poor, anyway.

It's the writing that'll either make or break this.

Down_Shift wrote:Looks like those poopy kids shows on Saturday mornings. Yugioh, monster something, and pokemon. I'm sure it will be a hit with the kiddies but older fans may shy away from this.

Says the man who collects children's toys and watches children's cartoons.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anyway, why are some saying it will be like Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, Bakugan or even B-Daman and the like (coincidentally, the only kind that gets adapted for the US. Odd...). If anything, I expect it to be like Brave, Eldoran or even Machine Robo Rescue, as I'm not seeing "Gotta collect'em/catch'em all" anywhere. There are more animes than that, people

It's likely due to those two human boys having very stereotypical Shounen anime "young male hero" designs.

Optimizzy wrote:I know this seems strange since Transformers are from Japan but...has anyone ever thought mow much Japanese original characters look nothing like other Transformers? Dai Atlas, Deathsaurus, Star Convoy...and these. They look more like Gundam than transformers. They are too ornate and there are far too many colors. It's not like there are rules for making a transformer but these seem like built machines rather than "living" things. As Gundam they look cool. As Transformers, I'd pass as they look like some closeout-store knockoff.

That's because those Japanese late-G1 guys and these new guys are designed to resemble the classic Super Robot anime style of the 1960s-1970s.

Though, they're more like Brave than Gundam.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Wat.

The combiners do not look like transformers... The aesthetics are kinda off... :/

They're designed to homage the classic Super Robot anime design.

gavinfuzzy wrote:So, no beast hunters for takara? Why are they releasing BH toys under go! then?

To sell toys?

Also, the Predacon molds are being released as new Kaiju-inspired characters, so they might make an appearance in some form.

Mkall wrote:This is the first Japanese only anime since what, BWII? Of course maybe Hasbro will dub over it and air it on The Hub (dubbed on The Hub) and this'll be the next TF Series that has been teased.

Well, it's the first Japanese-original series created without Hasbro's input since Car Robots/RiD.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:GoKenzan and GoGekisou? Something tells me that's only the names when Kenzan Samurai and Gekisoumaru are on top. I'm expecting the other combos to be named as such:

Samurai Team
Jinbu on top: GoJinbu
Ganou on top: GoGanou

Ninja Team
Hishomaru on top: GoHisho
Sensuimaru on top: GoSensui

Basically, drop either "Samurai" or "-maru" and add "Go" in front.

I don't even think "Samurai" is part of their name, since the listings we got from that one Twitter-based news post didn't have them. i think it was just a descriptor some online retailers used.

The "-maru" part, however, that one seems debatable.

I'm liking the look of the 'Con combiner. Could be persuaded by these yet.

Takara seems to be trying to turn Tf's into power rangers or pokemon.
No Takara!
They're transformers, they're not supposed to be in an anime styled tv show!

Superwheeljack wrote:Takara seems to be trying to turn Tf's into power rangers or pokemon.
No Takara!
They're transformers, they're not supposed to be in an anime styled tv show!

Have you forgotten Robots in Disguise, Armada, and bits and pieces of Energon and Cybertron? All were anime-like, and they all did well (Energon was meh, but to me, it was one of the best series because of the butt-tons of homages).

Mindmaster wrote:

Superwheeljack wrote:Takara seems to be trying to turn Tf's into power rangers or pokemon.
No Takara!
They're transformers, they're not supposed to be in an anime styled tv show!

Have you forgotten Robots in Disguise, Armada, and bits and pieces of Energon and Cybertron? All were anime-like, and they all did well (Energon was meh, but to me, it was one of the best series because of the butt-tons of homages).

And let us not forget the uber-Super Robot-esque shows that were Masterforce and Victory.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Superwheeljack wrote:Takara seems to be trying to turn Tf's into power rangers or pokemon.
No Takara!
They're transformers, they're not supposed to be in an anime styled tv show!

Have you forgotten Robots in Disguise, Armada, and bits and pieces of Energon and Cybertron? All were anime-like, and they all did well (Energon was meh, but to me, it was one of the best series because of the butt-tons of homages).

And let us not forget the uber-Super Robot-esque shows that were Masterforce and Victory.

Oh yeah, those too. Not sure how I forgot those.

On a side note, I always found the Victory theme to be most catchy.

Now victory is the best tf show besides tf prime, g1 (American)
No questions asked

Still, tf is best when it is not anime

Superwheeljack wrote:Now victory is the best tf show besides tf prime, g1 (American)
No questions asked

If by "best" you mean "boring, then yeah.

Well, okay, it gets more interesting by the time Liokaiser is finally filler, but the majority of it is padded filler in which almost nothing significant happens, and many of the characters are wooden archetypes who are all almost as formal and uptight at TF: Prime Optimus.

Star Saber himself literally has the personality of a cardboard cut out (since, well, he is one. A cardboard cut-out leader-type, that is).

Ginrai is the only Japanese Autobot commander who ever had any legitimate depth and/or developmental growth. Not to mention hot-blooded awesomeness.

Sabrblade wrote:

Superwheeljack wrote:Now victory is the best tf show besides tf prime, g1 (American)
No questions asked

If by "best" you mean "boring, then yeah.

Well, okay, it gets more interesting by the time Liokaiser is finally filler, but the majority of it is padded filler in which almost nothing significant happens, and many of the characters are wooden archetypes who are all almost as formal and uptight at TF: Prime Optimus.

Star Saber himself literally has the personality of a cardboard cut out (since, well, he is one. A cardboard cut-out leader-type, that is).

Ginrai is the only Japanese Autobot commander who ever had any legitimate depth and/or developmental growth. Not to mention hot-blooded awesomeness.

You sure you're not talking about Masterforce? Because that's boring
The entire story is weird, how can kids survive their back breaking and their bones twisted
The villans are laughable.
Also, I'm surprised christian tf's arent complaining over the Super-God part....

Superwheeljack wrote:You sure you're not talking about Masterforce? Because that's boring

If by "Boring" you mean "rich in storytelling with compelling action, lively colorful characters, intense plots, wondrous enchantment and mysticism, and full of lore and excellence", then yup!

Superwheeljack wrote:The entire story is weird, how can kids survive their back breaking and their bones twisted

Because they don't have any? Once they're in their Suit Modes, their bodies were biologically altered into Super Robot Lifeforms with no traces of any organic components (aside from their heads, which still resembled those of carbon-based lifeforms).

Superwheeljack wrote:The villans are laughable.

Well, Blood, Gilmer, and Dauros did get some great bits of comedy as the series went on.

Superwheeljack wrote:Also, I'm surprised christian tf's arent complaining over the Super-God part....

The word they're saying is "Choujin", which only means "Super-God". And, the Japanese aren't talking about the Judeo-Christian God anyway, since Pure Land Buddhism is the main religion over there. Plus, it's not like the show is explicitly preaching against Christianity or the like. It still holds the same morals of good triumphing over evil and such, and is a rarity in TF cartoons in which a good chunk of the Cons gain redemption in the end.

Not to mention how it's a 28-year-old Japanese cartoon that's barely had any official release in Western markets, appealing only to a very niche market, so it's not like it's anything relatively mainstream enough to catch the eye of the church to raise arms against it. It ain't like Pokemon, whose condemnation only lasted a short while and eventually died down and faded into obscurity as that franchise's popularity increased.

There are numerous religious aspects in plenty of children's cartoons anyway. It's not like any shred traces of that automatically make a show blacklisted. It's only when the show is big enough and presents religious denominations in a negative fashion. Masterforce hasn't had nearly as wide of an appeal to be even remotely noticed by such groups, nor does it focus on painting them in bad lighting. It's just another obscure anime in a niche corner of just another fandom.

Christian TF's? I'm pretty sure Cybertronians only believe in 2 gods. Primus and Unicron. And both have been proven to exist. In the TF universe that is.

Manterax Prime wrote:Christian TF's? I'm pretty sure Cybertronians only believe in 2 gods. Primus and Unicron. And both have been proven to exist. In the TF universe that is.

Just for fun.

Sabrblade wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:Christian TF's? I'm pretty sure Cybertronians only believe in 2 gods. Primus and Unicron. And both have been proven to exist. In the TF universe that is.

Just for fun.

Why?

Also, the OP needs a correction. The ninja combiner is NOT a Decepticon.

The plot for Go! is as follows: As an intended sequel to the Beast Hunters story, the Autobots succeeded in sealing away Dragotron (Predaking) with the help of an artifact called a "Legendisk". Now, Team Prime has left Earth to oppose the various Predacons running loose across the galaxy. However, some Preds still remain on Earth, and hunting them down has been tasked to six new Autobots (the two new combiner trios), who are three samurai and three ninjas.

Whether or not this will actually match what happens in the Prime Beast Hunters cartoon, however, remains to be seen.

Sabrblade wrote:Also, the OP needs a correction. The ninja combiner is NOT a Decepticon.

The plot for Go! is as follows: As an intended sequel to the Beast Hunters story, the Autobots succeeded in sealing away Dragotron (Predaking) with the help of an artifact called a "Legendisk". Now, Team Prime has left Earth to oppose the various Predacons running loose across the galaxy. However, some Preds still remain on Earth, and hunting them down has been tasked to six new Autobots (the two new combiner trios), who are three samurai and three ninjas.

Whether or not this will actually match what happens in the Prime Beast Hunters cartoon, however, remains to be seen.

Where did you find that information..?