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primalxconvoy wrote:They would be much better suited being colour coordinated to go with a BW figure instead, IMO.
Autobot N wrote:PrimevsPrime says a review for Jhiaxus is coming out tomorrow
Emerje wrote:I remember Roadbuster shelf warming for a long time, even on clearance, not sure if Hasbro will ever do another figure of him. Whirl didn't sell all that great either, but at least he had an appearance in Cyberverse and that figure sold well so maybe he could get a new figure (without the chicken legs). I really want to see Sandstorm done again, the T30/IDW version is just completely unrecognizable to me, only having the colors in common with his original design. Hopefully we've seen the last of that, time for him to get the Siege Springer treatment.primalxconvoy wrote:They would be much better suited being colour coordinated to go with a BW figure instead, IMO.
Well that would be a dumb move since most of the Kingdom Beast Wars figures only have ports in their feet and aren't really compatible with Fossilizers. As for popularity, under normal circumstances the leader of the Wreckers would be the figure at the top of the tower sold on his own, not an unfamiliarly colored random Jumpstarter from five lines ago. They had to stick him in a box with a Fossilizer just to get the fourth release of the character in that mold to sell and they knew it. The majority of people seem much more excited about the Spindle figure than that guy that nearly nobody in America grew up with in the 80s and probably already have at least one of.
As for Leadfoot, he's such an obscure character to most people he may as well be a new character. Seen a few people here poking fun at his color layout.
That said, if I were to rank my excitement over these reveals:
7. Bulkhead
6. Springer
5. Impactor
4. Twin Twist
3. Spindle
2. Masterdominus
1. Leadfoot
Emerje
primalxconvoy wrote:Emerje wrote:I remember Roadbuster shelf warming for a long time, even on clearance, not sure if Hasbro will ever do another figure of him. Whirl didn't sell all that great either, but at least he had an appearance in Cyberverse and that figure sold well so maybe he could get a new figure (without the chicken legs). I really want to see Sandstorm done again, the T30/IDW version is just completely unrecognizable to me, only having the colors in common with his original design. Hopefully we've seen the last of that, time for him to get the Siege Springer treatment.primalxconvoy wrote:They would be much better suited being colour coordinated to go with a BW figure instead, IMO.
Well that would be a dumb move since most of the Kingdom Beast Wars figures only have ports in their feet and aren't really compatible with Fossilizers. As for popularity, under normal circumstances the leader of the Wreckers would be the figure at the top of the tower sold on his own, not an unfamiliarly colored random Jumpstarter from five lines ago. They had to stick him in a box with a Fossilizer just to get the fourth release of the character in that mold to sell and they knew it. The majority of people seem much more excited about the Spindle figure than that guy that nearly nobody in America grew up with in the 80s and probably already have at least one of.
As for Leadfoot, he's such an obscure character to most people he may as well be a new character. Seen a few people here poking fun at his color layout.
That said, if I were to rank my excitement over these reveals:
7. Bulkhead
6. Springer
5. Impactor
4. Twin Twist
3. Spindle
2. Masterdominus
1. Leadfoot
Emerje
I think it was even dumber for Hasbro to not include more ports for the Beast Wars figures to interact with the Fossilizers as they seem to work aesthetically the best with them. I will stand by my statement though, that the fossilizers are simply tacked-on to the more mainstream G2/G1 character releases. The G2 figure isn't that "unknown" in the fandom these days, thanks to a little thing called the internet (which is why Japanese and European figures are popular/known the world-over with collectors, and get American/Western release or vice-versa in Japan). The Fossilerz, be they good or bad figures, are definitely the underdogs in this fight.
It's a shame, as I think with a little more paint/materials, better interaction with BW figures (via some tastefully placed holes in them), and say, a whole line called,say "Beast Wars - Fossilizers", they could have become a lot more relevant/popular in the fandom than their current state.
william-james88 wrote:More info for you:
- He has more figures planned in the Wreck N Rule line but we'll see how well these do before more get made
Wolfman Jake wrote:william-james88 wrote:More info for you:
- He has more figures planned in the Wreck N Rule line but we'll see how well these do before more get made
I hope we get a second wave of Wreck N Rule, honestly. Besides needing Topspin, we could also use a Generations Rack'n'Ruin at last. We could even add in some others, like Prime Wheeljack, Xaaron, Fractyl, Toxitron, or any other number of Wreckers from whatever continuities. I think we could get a pretty good Rack'n'Ruin from retooling some of the weaponizer/modulator pieces from Siege and Earthrise. If Hasbro is really clever, they can outfit a few figures again with various "armor and weapon pieces," like the fossilizers packed in with Impactor and Leadfoot, that are really meant to combine into Rack'n'Ruin.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Razorbeast88 wrote:One's personal opinion does not automatically equal the majority and opposing opinions the minority
For some the main figure of interest is the fossilizer, for others its the G1ish bots, for some its both. Who cares anyways lol just buy it or don't buy it
primalxconvoy wrote:Except that's not true, because I say it is, and it's obvious that I am always correct. There's no need for me to even consider anything anyone else is saying, because my opinion is clearly fact.
Emerje wrote:I remember Roadbuster shelf warming for a long time, even on clearance, not sure if Hasbro will ever do another figure of him. Whirl didn't sell all that great either, but at least he had an appearance in Cyberverse and that figure sold well so maybe he could get a new figure (without the chicken legs). I really want to see Sandstorm done again, the T30/IDW version is just completely unrecognizable to me, only having the colors in common with his original design. Hopefully we've seen the last of that, time for him to get the Siege Springer treatment.primalxconvoy wrote:They would be much better suited being colour coordinated to go with a BW figure instead, IMO.
Well that would be a dumb move since most of the Kingdom Beast Wars figures only have ports in their feet and aren't really compatible with Fossilizers. As for popularity, under normal circumstances the leader of the Wreckers would be the figure at the top of the tower sold on his own, not an unfamiliarly colored random Jumpstarter from five lines ago. They had to stick him in a box with a Fossilizer just to get the fourth release of the character in that mold to sell and they knew it. The majority of people seem much more excited about the Spindle figure than that guy that nearly nobody in America grew up with in the 80s and probably already have at least one of.
As for Leadfoot, he's such an obscure character to most people he may as well be a new character. Seen a few people here poking fun at his color layout.
That said, if I were to rank my excitement over these reveals:
7. Bulkhead
6. Springer
5. Impactor
4. Twin Twist
3. Spindle
2. Masterdominus
1. Leadfoot
Emerje
My opinion isn't as strong as yours but I agree, I was thinking about getting her but when I first saw her in stores I immediately decided not to. Something just doesn't look right about herwilliam-james88 wrote:And I must say, seeing Arcee for the first time, it looks far worse than in the images. I really hate (yeah I know, it's a strong word) how the chest plate looks like a facade. It gives it a cheap look and makes the robot lack in cohesiveness as a 3d figure. Now I have my doubts on getting that mold when it's released as another character.
Till-all-R1 wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:One's personal opinion does not automatically equal the majority and opposing opinions the minority
For some the main figure of interest is the fossilizer, for others its the G1ish bots, for some its both. Who cares anyways lol just buy it or don't buy it
Agreed, of the 2-pks I've bought I just listed the unwanted bots in the set on ebay and have offset the cost enough to justify the expense on the bot I wanted. I usually stat out by listing it for half the price of the pack plus shipping and if it doesn't sell I'll lower it until it does, hasn't ever gone lower than fifteen which was fine with me as lone as I'm essentially not paying the full 2-pk price for one bot.
Of course the caveat is that it depends upon how much I wanted the packmate ie Swideswipe, Mirage and Barricade versus their earlier release and how much I was willing to pay slightly higher than basic DLX price retail for it. Personally I'd like to seem ore sets like Ironhide/Prowl so I can knock two out at once and not worry about selling off the unwanted "junk", but significantly more widely available than that set.
Ideally G1 Hound and VW Bumble Bee, that set would rock for me! And I know they had a theme with Mirage and the Dinobot but IMO Mirage with an all clear/cloaked version would have been more interesting. Same for Hound with a projected hologram of maybe a Decepticon. IDK just my two cents on 2-pks, but I get that it would be a singular focus rather than what they went with.
Tuned Agent wrote:If these fossilizers were really just tacked-on fluff to boost the price as you say, then they wouldn't have gotten more retooling than the supposed stars of the show.
Clearly plenty of effort and creativity went into them, not only to make them feel new and unique, but to also provide a brand-new combiner head for minority of people who collect fossilizers.
...These fossilizers are clearly secondary fluff to the vast majority of fans compared to a fourth release of that Impactor mold in as many years and an established and recognized G2 character that hasn't been re-released yet (thus being desirable to the vast majority of the fandom, who collect mainly G1/G2 characters), which is ironic as they are still more well-known and popular than a brand-new fossilizer.
primalxconvoy wrote:...These fossilizers are clearly secondary fluff to the vast majority of fans compared to a fourth release of that Impactor mold in as many years and an established and recognized G2 character that hasn't been re-released yet (thus being desirable to the vast majority of the fandom, who collect mainly G1/G2 characters), which is ironic as they are still more well-known and popular than a brand-new fossilizer.
Well, why go to all the trouble of writing all that other tripe when you agreed? Oh well, each to their own...
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