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william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Ironically the hands are my favourite part of thisthough their inclusion is a head scratcher.
Incidentally, do we know of all the leader class figures for Legacy now?
Yes, but not all have been revealed. Still missing TM2 Megatron.
Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm really surprised at how blue Shockwave is... And not a fan.
The SS figure has the color I would've preferred seeing for this Legacy version.
And so much greebling...
I'm now on the fence about this figure, and leaning towards passing.
o.supreme wrote:DeathReviews wrote:As much as I dissed Kickback, Legacy Ransack somehow looks better. Maybe it's the new head sculpt, or the blaring yellow... But am I going to buy a 4-pack just to get that one figure? Fat chance. Especially if it's more repaints that I don't like.
Yeah I'm not sure where Hasbros logic is. I know they want to play into the whole "multiverse" angle but having one obvious stand out character in these sets ( Previously Fangry) and now, Ransack, seems odd.
Kids won't care, and parents wanting to get a " battle in a box" won't care either, but most fans who obviously want the one one toy made with them in mind will pass,
These should have been sold as Selects. Packs of multiple characters do much better when there is a more united theme than " 4 randos from across dimensions* . When Target asked for a multipacks set they probably were thinking of some sort of unified team, or theme at least.
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:DeathReviews wrote:As much as I dissed Kickback, Legacy Ransack somehow looks better. Maybe it's the new head sculpt, or the blaring yellow... But am I going to buy a 4-pack just to get that one figure? Fat chance. Especially if it's more repaints that I don't like.
Yeah I'm not sure where Hasbros logic is. I know they want to play into the whole "multiverse" angle but having one obvious stand out character in these sets ( Previously Fangry) and now, Ransack, seems odd.
Kids won't care, and parents wanting to get a " battle in a box" won't care either, but most fans who obviously want the one one toy made with them in mind will pass,
These should have been sold as Selects. Packs of multiple characters do much better when there is a more united theme than " 4 randos from across dimensions* . When Target asked for a multipacks set they probably were thinking of some sort of unified team, or theme at least.
Scott "answered" your question on this, but I don't feel he went into depth enough. It was a very bland blanket, "they don't care about you, let's just move product" answer. I would at least expect part of the reason to be that Hasbro knowingly puts a character that will make the boxset more attractive to get that 30% extra in sales from collectors, as opposed to just ignoring a set if the one that was most coveted could be bought online as an exclusve. Or that the rest of boxset helps offset the cost of the new tooling.
william-james88 wrote:Scott "answered" your question on this, but I don't feel he went into depth enough. It was a very bland blanket, "they don't care about you, let's just move product" answer. I would at least expect part of the reason to be that Hasbro knowingly puts a character that will make the boxset more attractive to get that 30% extra in sales from collectors, as opposed to just ignoring a set if the one that was most coveted could be bought online as an exclusve. Or that the rest of boxset helps offset the cost of the new tooling.
Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m still excited for Blitzwing.
He’s right up there towards the top of my most wanted list.
The bot mode is really well done, & is enough for me. The jet mode is obvsly a letdown, but I’m good with the tank.
Till-all-R1 wrote:That's actually a good thing for consumers, at least several years ago because it meant sales on overstock.
Unfortunately it's a bad thing for retailers because Hasbro already made their Money by selling to them thus items going to clearance doesn't affect their bottom line so of course their only concern it move product.
Problem now is that physical retail is fading out and now must rely on online retailers or Pulse which means that unsold burden is passed on on to them and those places don't have clearance sales as often as old school retailers. And ultimately there will be a few of them that may have to fold due to having buy too much from Hasbro and not selling enough at full price to cover their overhead.
I totally get repaints are great for Hasbro but too many can damage the line's overall health in this new paradigm of online only ordering. Not immediately but eventually.
Till-all-R1 wrote:That's actually a good thing for consumers, at least several years ago because it meant sales on overstock.
Unfortunately it's a bad thing for retailers because Hasbro already made their Money by selling to them thus items going to clearance doesn't affect their bottom line so of course their only concern it move product.
Problem now is that physical retail is fading out and now must rely on online retailers or Pulse which means that unsold burden is passed on on to them and those places don't have clearance sales as often as old school retailers. And ultimately there will be a few of them that may have to fold due to having buy too much from Hasbro and not selling enough at full price to cover their overhead.
I totally get repaints are great for Hasbro but too many can damage the line's overall health in this new paradigm of online only ordering. Not immediately but eventually.
o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:Scott "answered" your question on this, but I don't feel he went into depth enough. It was a very bland blanket, "they don't care about you, let's just move product" answer. I would at least expect part of the reason to be that Hasbro knowingly puts a character that will make the boxset more attractive to get that 30% extra in sales from collectors, as opposed to just ignoring a set if the one that was most coveted could be bought online as an exclusve. Or that the rest of boxset helps offset the cost of the new tooling.
Yeah, I agree. I addressed that in the Youtube comments. Scott knows his stuff about some parts of the toy industry, but I underestimated his lack of knowledge about the Transformers brand in general.
william-james88 wrote:And @Zerowolf, I tend to believe that what I write is already generally known by fans. Also, I can't have anyone in the industry validate any claim I may make regardless of whether my info is from the industry or simply an educated guess. It's a fine line. I'll just mention it when we get more info on the upcoming 4 pack and give a series of reasons why it may exist the way it does.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
You're not very familiar with Beast Wars, are ya.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I think I just figured out what the legacy energon monster is. This is really a long shot, but https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/TFBW-17-5-009.jpg
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
This might come as a shock to you, but not everyone knows everything about the franchise from 1984 to the present. Especially newer collectors.Sabrblade wrote:You're not very familiar with Beast Wars, are ya.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I think I just figured out what the legacy energon monster is. This is really a long shot, but https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/TFBW-17-5-009.jpg
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Sabrblade wrote:You're not very familiar with Beast Wars, are ya.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I think I just figured out what the legacy energon monster is. This is really a long shot, but https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2022/06/TFBW-17-5-009.jpg
Energon consumption time!!! I really hope everyone is enjoying the portal ride of our Legacy toyline.Here is a lil insight on how some of these energon weapons came to be.
First image is just a showcase of the first 2 waves of Legacy weaponry you’ll collect if you grab core class, deluxe class, voyager class, and even leader class!
Then you will actually see the concept art Emiliano Santalucia drew up even before we had the rollout of characters planned for the year. I think this will provide great insight for all yall as alot of the planning for weapon combinations was to obviously utilize our 5mm peg across all scales but this was all sold in before character selects were figured out.
As I worked with Takara on some of the characters I ended up redesigning alot of the weapons in order to maintain their design aesthetic of their own iconic weaponry. I wanted to concentrate heavily on the character and let that guidance provide an opportunity for the style and color of the energon weaponry
Please be sure to share your rad energon weapon combinations, would love to get some more time to talk about some of the new energon featured in some of characters arsenals. Especially that smoked out death soul energon featured in Jhiaxus’s handheld blaster !
More soon, stay tuned, if we reach higher followers maybe I can start doing giveaways!!!!
Agent 53 wrote:They've gotta stop doing this, how many times has a gimmick just ruined a line, Hasbro should focus on just making sure the figures a a good representation of the characters for the price point.
ZeroWolf wrote:Agent 53 wrote:They've gotta stop doing this, how many times has a gimmick just ruined a line, Hasbro should focus on just making sure the figures a a good representation of the characters for the price point.
Gimmicks sell well with kids though, look at the UT stuff
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