Not so "rare" when it's still for sale on Amazon, comes up as the first result for "Transformers wreck n rule", and the second result for "Transformers wreckers".-Kanrabat- wrote:sol magnus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:I got my hands on Leadfoot and it'a a great figure. Buuuuuut did anyone have issues that first time transforming? When I tried to move his head into his chest it just popped right off. Then for a moment it didn't peg back the way it should.
Finally it took soome doing to get the head "inside" correctly with fear of scratching any paint. I fear any future transformations may do just that.![]()
Thread misfire?
Wreck and Rule is a part of Legacy.
Can't remember all the names of those "rare" exclusives.
Transformers Legacy Line Discussion
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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Honestly, as far as scale goes, rather than redoing any of them (save Powerglide) as Deluxes, maybe Velocitron Cosmos should be redone as Core-class (because Cosmos was a shortarse even by minibot standards in the cartoon, and I've heard the Velocitron figure is actually kinda tall).
Kind of agree here, that Velocotron Cosmos seems a bit too big to me considering how small he appeared in the show, and that toy towers above Walmart Bumble bee. I too feel Powerlgide needs DLX because a small A-10 never made sense to me and was a tad taller than the others in the show.
Legends Seaspray and Beachcomber are very close in scale to CJ/Bee and I didn't really feel they needed DLX treatment, perhaps something in between it and Core if anything. Part of me is thinking that their minibot redos in DLX are just going to cause scaling issues going forward, particularly based on Cosmos being too tall and bulky next to Bee. They are likely going to have to redo VW Bee when all said and done if they're all in line with that Cosmos figure. I hope when they do Brawn/Outback, Gears they remember that these are minibots and shouldn't be the same seize/height as say Sideswipe, Red Alert etc. thus towering over CJ and Bee.
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Sabrblade wrote:Not so "rare" when it's still for sale on Amazon, comes up as the first result for "Transformers wreck n rule", and the second result for "Transformers wreckers".-Kanrabat- wrote:sol magnus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:I got my hands on Leadfoot and it'a a great figure. Buuuuuut did anyone have issues that first time transforming? When I tried to move his head into his chest it just popped right off. Then for a moment it didn't peg back the way it should.
Finally it took soome doing to get the head "inside" correctly with fear of scratching any paint. I fear any future transformations may do just that.![]()
Thread misfire?
Wreck and Rule is a part of Legacy.
Can't remember all the names of those "rare" exclusives.
Alright then so it seems that maybe I'm just the unlucky one with this issue. That being said after I transform him back into bot mode he'll stay that way for a while over the fear of chipping any paint from his cool noggin!


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New listings, eh?
Purchases for me: Tasmanian Kid, Chase, Windblade
Wait and see/need more info: Rocks (Rock Lords?), Core Energon Megs (is it a tiny Megatron or is it just his Rumbler tank?), Chromia (like the T30/Cyberverse design but need to see the figure), Sureshot (indifferent, may grab if it looks good)
Pass: Animated Bee (would grab a Wasp though), Gears (might grab a Swerve or a Small Foot though)
Also, if these product numbers are supposed to be directly sequential, then we're actually missing whichever Deluxe is F8527 from these assumed waves.
Purchases for me: Tasmanian Kid, Chase, Windblade
Wait and see/need more info: Rocks (Rock Lords?), Core Energon Megs (is it a tiny Megatron or is it just his Rumbler tank?), Chromia (like the T30/Cyberverse design but need to see the figure), Sureshot (indifferent, may grab if it looks good)
Pass: Animated Bee (would grab a Wasp though), Gears (might grab a Swerve or a Small Foot though)
Also, if these product numbers are supposed to be directly sequential, then we're actually missing whichever Deluxe is F8527 from these assumed waves.
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Could the listings for Rock perhaps be the rumored "Energon Monsters" form early Legacy leaks, just repurposed or finally getting there moment?
And man, a new Windblade is great news, I'll prolly be all over that after the crushing disappointment of my TR one
And man, a new Windblade is great news, I'll prolly be all over that after the crushing disappointment of my TR one
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M. Spector wrote:Could the listings for Rock perhaps be the rumored "Energon Monsters" form early Legacy leaks, just repurposed or finally getting there moment?
And man, a new Windblade is great news, I'll prolly be all over that after the crushing disappointment of my TR one
The pretenders from Legacy were the energon monsters.
They were the monster shells with energon weapon compatibility.
Hence Energon Monster.
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Video Reviews for Transformers Legacy Grimlock, Thundercracker and Nemesis Prime
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Legacy Evolution's second wave of core class figures was found at Target earlier this month and now that fans got them in hand, we have reviews coming in from our community. Below are reviews from Thundertron and Chuckdawg1999 for Legacy Grimlock, Thundercracker and Nemesis Prime.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:While it might be surprising to see Grimlock, the Dinobot Leader being used as a leg, I find it refreshing to see how Hasbro can still come up with unique ideas for the Dinobots. Robot and T-Rex modes aren't that great, but they're better than what we got with Sludge. It really feels like leg mode was the priority and everything else came after. If you've ever wanted a pocket Grimlock then this Core Class version just might fit the bill.
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...no they weren't, the initial leaks had them entirely separate. Core Iguanus and Skullgrin were listed alongside the Core and Deluxe Energon Monster(s) when the entire lineup for the year leaked. It was only after the line was underway that Skullgrin got bumped up in size to replace the Deluxe Energon Monster and Bomb-Burst got added to replace the Core one.william-james88 wrote:M. Spector wrote:Could the listings for Rock perhaps be the rumored "Energon Monsters" form early Legacy leaks, just repurposed or finally getting there moment?
And man, a new Windblade is great news, I'll prolly be all over that after the crushing disappointment of my TR one
The pretenders from Legacy were the energon monsters.
They were the monster shells with energon weapon compatibility.
Hence Energon Monster.
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Nemesis Primal wrote:...no they weren't, the initial leaks had them entirely separate. Core Iguanus and Skullgrin were listed alongside the Core and Deluxe Energon Monster(s) when the entire lineup for the year leaked. It was only after the line was underway that Skullgrin got bumped up in size to replace the Deluxe Energon Monster and Bomb-Burst got added to replace the Core one.william-james88 wrote:M. Spector wrote:Could the listings for Rock perhaps be the rumored "Energon Monsters" form early Legacy leaks, just repurposed or finally getting there moment?
And man, a new Windblade is great news, I'll prolly be all over that after the crushing disappointment of my TR one
The pretenders from Legacy were the energon monsters.
They were the monster shells with energon weapon compatibility.
Hence Energon Monster.
Haha, wow, I was way off on that one. Thanks for clearing it up.
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Skywarp came with a fork instead of his null-rays.
So I'm disappointed that Thundercracker didn't come with a spoon.
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Micktrap397 wrote:Why there are two videos of Grimlock?
My mistake, thanks for pointing it out
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Looks like earlier shots of core Grimlock were mis-transformed. They had the dino tail inverted so the wider parts were flared out, making his backside look like the bell of a trumpet. This makes it looks slightly less objectionable. But not enough to make me want the Core dinos. I'll stick with the Leader Studio Series versions, thanks.
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DeathReviews wrote:Looks like earlier shots of core Grimlock were mis-transformed. They had the dino tail inverted so the wider parts were flared out, making his backside look like the bell of a trumpet. This makes it looks slightly less objectionable. But not enough to make me want the Core dinos. I'll stick with the Leader Studio Series versions, thanks.
I don't really see how it's one or the other.
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Since those Legacy Evolution Core Class wave 2 sightings were not too far from me, I wonder if it is true that perhaps Target just got some of them individually randomly placed in shipments, and not full case packs? I mean I've seen the Voyager Leo Prime & Tarn at about every Target in my area, so I know they are getting full cases. But... Last Sunday I spotted a single core Nemesis on the peg (that wasn't in Target's system), also found a single Core Bomb Burst (Evo PR) at a different store, also wasn't in the system. It would seem odd that each of these stores would have just ONE toy. (I asked employees to check the back, but without the item being in their system, they had no way of knowing
) Scalpers is also a definite possibility, but why would they leave just one toy behind at each store?

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Finally got the video up - Menasor coming soon
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I managed to find Needlenose at Target today, my first Evolution sighting in stores. still need the cores and voyagers from the wave.
Needlenose is really nice, he's surprisingly very good. His headsculpt is immaculate, like really, it's really damn good. Best headsculpt on a deluxe in a while in my eyes. I also like his size, he has a nice presence to him. Jet mode is pretty nice too.
Transformation wise, I thought I had him easy peasy, but then I couldn't figure something out, looked at the directions, and was surprised by the entire jet half being on a hinge the way it was, it was a fun little thing I was not expecting.
Needlenose is really nice, he's surprisingly very good. His headsculpt is immaculate, like really, it's really damn good. Best headsculpt on a deluxe in a while in my eyes. I also like his size, he has a nice presence to him. Jet mode is pretty nice too.
Transformation wise, I thought I had him easy peasy, but then I couldn't figure something out, looked at the directions, and was surprised by the entire jet half being on a hinge the way it was, it was a fun little thing I was not expecting.

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Needlenose is just a box with wings and the bot is just generic crap!
....and mine is set to arrive (along Scraphook) from Walmart.ca in March... MARCH...

....and mine is set to arrive (along Scraphook) from Walmart.ca in March... MARCH...

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Needlenose is just a box with wings and the bot is just generic crap!![]()
....and mine is set to arrive (along Scraphook) from Walmart.ca in March... MARCH...
Just 2 weeks away (I'm getting scraphook too)
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I’m going to give Hastak credit and props when they’ve earned it.
I’ve said in multiple posts for what seems like a decently long time now (mainly since the SS86 subline has come out) that they’ve earned my trust. That there have been improvements with decisions, releases, and overall quality. Of course there are exceptions to this, but overall, I think we have been given a lot of great figures in the last few years.
But those Core Dinobots have fallen short… Way short.
And please know I wanted to like them. I was gearing up to buy them.
In fact, I’m still willing to buy the last 2 main characters if they’re good…
I don’t need Volcanicus…
But that Sludge is truly awful… Both modes are terribly bad in appearance.
I honestly would’ve considered buying these guys if even 1 of the 2 modes was good.
And they’re just not. Grimlock’s bot mode is close to alright, but it’s still bad.
I don’t need to be reminded about price point, engineering limitations due to size, design compromises due to the evo-fusion combining gimmick, or the intended consumer age…
I get it. I get it all.
And these are still bad.
In fact, the Volcanicus leg formed by Grimlock isn’t good in terms of appearance.
I will be basically shocked if the completed combined mode looks better than what I’m expecting at this point.
I don’t think I’d buy any of these if they were $5 each…
This may seem harsh, but damn…
I’m always going to call it like I see it.
And while I pretty much love every figure I’ve bought in the last year+,
these Dinobots are garbage.
I’ve said in multiple posts for what seems like a decently long time now (mainly since the SS86 subline has come out) that they’ve earned my trust. That there have been improvements with decisions, releases, and overall quality. Of course there are exceptions to this, but overall, I think we have been given a lot of great figures in the last few years.
But those Core Dinobots have fallen short… Way short.
And please know I wanted to like them. I was gearing up to buy them.
In fact, I’m still willing to buy the last 2 main characters if they’re good…
I don’t need Volcanicus…
But that Sludge is truly awful… Both modes are terribly bad in appearance.
I honestly would’ve considered buying these guys if even 1 of the 2 modes was good.
And they’re just not. Grimlock’s bot mode is close to alright, but it’s still bad.
I don’t need to be reminded about price point, engineering limitations due to size, design compromises due to the evo-fusion combining gimmick, or the intended consumer age…
I get it. I get it all.
And these are still bad.
In fact, the Volcanicus leg formed by Grimlock isn’t good in terms of appearance.
I will be basically shocked if the completed combined mode looks better than what I’m expecting at this point.
I don’t think I’d buy any of these if they were $5 each…
This may seem harsh, but damn…
I’m always going to call it like I see it.
And while I pretty much love every figure I’ve bought in the last year+,
these Dinobots are garbage.
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william-james88 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Needlenose is just a box with wings and the bot is just generic crap!![]()
....and mine is set to arrive (along Scraphook) from Walmart.ca in March... MARCH...
Just 2 weeks away (I'm getting scraphook too)
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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I managed to find Needlenose at Target today, my first Evolution sighting in stores. still need the cores and voyagers from the wave.
Were there any other deluxes at all? I too saw a single Needlenose at a Target about a week ago. Didn't get it, because all I want is Scraphook from that assortment. Further lending possibility to the theory that some stores are not getting whole cases of these (except Voyagers which are reaching Saturation, at least in my area of CA)
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I honestly couldn't tell you who Needlenose but the more I see pics of it the more I'm leaning towards buying it!
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Ya know not for nothing, I can't figure out how they transformed Grimlock wrong like there's no way from what I can tell for the legs to fold up "wrong."
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Till-all-R1 wrote:I honestly couldn't tell you who Needlenose but the more I see pics of it the more I'm leaning towards buying it!
He's a guy that really knows his "brand".

He's also sometimes Tracks' brothe, apparently because they both have similar slotted helmets.

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