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I don't understand this line of reasoning, none of these people have come out and described Kingdom Menasor. The only one is one of the other TFW leakers, but his knowledge is limited to Motormaster. So I'm not sure how exactly this disproves the leak.Wolfman Jake wrote:I think there is a very specific reason why no one is really running this “leak” as news. It’s already known to be false. Enough investors and influencers have already seen the whole of Legacy Menasor to say that these details are simply untrue.
Autobot N wrote:I don't understand this line of reasoning, none of these people have come out and described Kingdom Menasor. The only one is one of the other TFW leakers, but his knowledge is limited to Motormaster. So I'm not sure how exactly this disproves the leak.Wolfman Jake wrote:I think there is a very specific reason why no one is really running this “leak” as news. It’s already known to be false. Enough investors and influencers have already seen the whole of Legacy Menasor to say that these details are simply untrue.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I think it is BS, but some very well crafted BS buried in nuggets of truth.
-Dragstrip is the only one that is full-send G1 (who we have already seen)
-Motormaster and Dead End both have references in their decos to other versions of them, RiD15 Motormaster and RotF Dead End specifically
-Breakdown is a G1-ish TFP Breakdown but also a Menasor limb
Breakdown is the lie. Motormaster and Dead End can be explained simply by their translucent purple windows matching their energon weapons, their other tie-ins are just bonus.
Here is the nugget of truth everyone is missing sitting in plain sight.
-Wildrider has a chainsaw like his Stunti-Con Job version
Wildrider is a confirmed retool of Slammer
Nemesis Primal wrote:The only indication that exists so far is that we've seen Dragstrip, and the rumor/leak says that Dragstrip is the most G1 Stunticon of this lot. I don't think anyone has explicitly said we are getting SPECIFICALLY G1 Menasor, people just assumed that based on the listings having all the names of the G1 Stunticons because no one really considered it being Prime Breakdown. And in terms of "they wouldn't do us dirty like that"....I feel like the majority of people that are/are gonna be upset by the apparent lack of G1 Breakdown are those also upset that Earth mode "core G1 cast" guys were exclusives, in which case they've already been done dirty.Wolfman Jake wrote:Hasbro wouldn’t do us dirty like that. All indications are that this will be more or less G1 cartoon (Sunbow) Menasor with current Generation stylings, like the strong G1 influence on most of the War for Cybertron Trilogy.
sol magnus wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:The only indication that exists so far is that we've seen Dragstrip, and the rumor/leak says that Dragstrip is the most G1 Stunticon of this lot. I don't think anyone has explicitly said we are getting SPECIFICALLY G1 Menasor, people just assumed that based on the listings having all the names of the G1 Stunticons because no one really considered it being Prime Breakdown. And in terms of "they wouldn't do us dirty like that"....I feel like the majority of people that are/are gonna be upset by the apparent lack of G1 Breakdown are those also upset that Earth mode "core G1 cast" guys were exclusives, in which case they've already been done dirty.Wolfman Jake wrote:Hasbro wouldn’t do us dirty like that. All indications are that this will be more or less G1 cartoon (Sunbow) Menasor with current Generation stylings, like the strong G1 influence on most of the War for Cybertron Trilogy.
First, what core G1 cast were exclusives? You mean the Kingdom ones? Bluestreak? Who cried about that? I didn't feel 'done dirty'.
As far as Dragstrip being the only 'straight G1' Stunticon, they leaned pretty heavily into that with him. It seems obtuse to make other Stunticons when you go that hard. I'd be less inclined to buy 'updated but not G1' Stunticons when CW Menasor is soooo bad. That would be a letdown.
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:The only indication that exists so far is that we've seen Dragstrip, and the rumor/leak says that Dragstrip is the most G1 Stunticon of this lot. I don't think anyone has explicitly said we are getting SPECIFICALLY G1 Menasor, people just assumed that based on the listings having all the names of the G1 Stunticons because no one really considered it being Prime Breakdown. And in terms of "they wouldn't do us dirty like that"....I feel like the majority of people that are/are gonna be upset by the apparent lack of G1 Breakdown are those also upset that Earth mode "core G1 cast" guys were exclusives, in which case they've already been done dirty.Wolfman Jake wrote:Hasbro wouldn’t do us dirty like that. All indications are that this will be more or less G1 cartoon (Sunbow) Menasor with current Generation stylings, like the strong G1 influence on most of the War for Cybertron Trilogy.
First, what core G1 cast were exclusives? You mean the Kingdom ones? Bluestreak? Who cried about that? I didn't feel 'done dirty'.
As far as Dragstrip being the only 'straight G1' Stunticon, they leaned pretty heavily into that with him. It seems obtuse to make other Stunticons when you go that hard. I'd be less inclined to buy 'updated but not G1' Stunticons when CW Menasor is soooo bad. That would be a letdown.
Earth mode Ironhide, Ratchet, Sideswipe, Red Alert, Soundwave, laserbeak, thundercracker, Skywarp, Prowl and Bluestreak are all exclusives. As are Bumblebee (both versions) and the coneheads which didnt have cybertronian releases.
sol magnus wrote:Right-o. I forgot because I get them all immediately upon pre-order. lol
-Kanrabat- wrote:sol magnus wrote:Right-o. I forgot because I get them all immediately upon pre-order. lol
Many were never able to preorder anything. And even if they did, some preorders got cancelled.
sol magnus wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:sol magnus wrote:Right-o. I forgot because I get them all immediately upon pre-order. lol
Many were never able to preorder anything. And even if they did, some preorders got cancelled.
Oh, I wasn't saying that as if to say I have no sympathy. I said that to say in the blurr of products hummin' comin' at us over the last three years I forgot because I just hit pre-order as soon as it's a 'core G1 cast member.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
This leaker’s always been good about owning up to being misled or getting things wrong whenever it happens (which isn’t often)Sabrblade wrote:Just so it's clear, it wasn't the leaker who gave the false info, it was the source the leaker got it from. In this case, the leaker was misled too.
Sentinel_Primal wrote:And it seems like the threat of G1-ified Prime Breakdown was just the source wanting to mess with the fandom and make the leaks less accurate cause people were getting things too right lately. Thank you all for playing, we now return to your regularly scheduled discussion.
Also entirely possible that this new leak/course correction is also false though, and that we'll just have to live in fear till Wave 4 gets revealed![]()
Wolfman Jake wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:And it seems like the threat of G1-ified Prime Breakdown was just the source wanting to mess with the fandom and make the leaks less accurate cause people were getting things too right lately. Thank you all for playing, we now return to your regularly scheduled discussion.
Also entirely possible that this new leak/course correction is also false though, and that we'll just have to live in fear till Wave 4 gets revealed![]()
sol magnus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:And it seems like the threat of G1-ified Prime Breakdown was just the source wanting to mess with the fandom and make the leaks less accurate cause people were getting things too right lately. Thank you all for playing, we now return to your regularly scheduled discussion.
Also entirely possible that this new leak/course correction is also false though, and that we'll just have to live in fear till Wave 4 gets revealed![]()
Yeah. I'm with you, Jake.
william-james88 wrote:sol magnus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Sentinel_Primal wrote:And it seems like the threat of G1-ified Prime Breakdown was just the source wanting to mess with the fandom and make the leaks less accurate cause people were getting things too right lately. Thank you all for playing, we now return to your regularly scheduled discussion.
Also entirely possible that this new leak/course correction is also false though, and that we'll just have to live in fear till Wave 4 gets revealed![]()
Yeah. I'm with you, Jake.
Same
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