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Burn wrote:Pretenders done right is not a difficult concept.
The shells can be articulated. Rather than splitting in half front to back, only have the upper torso split. This allows for hip and leg articulation while the shoulders stay a part of the upper back portion.
The inner robot itself may have to be scaled down a bit as they may only be able to fit in the uppoer body, but the focus should be on the outer shell.
Emerje wrote:We're only getting a new Menasor because his cartoon design was so much different from the toy we got and also had non-standard combining thanks to looking like a giant robot with cars hanging off of him so they could do something new in Legacy. There's really no need to redo most of the CW lineup aside from Liokaiser. Hopefully they come up with a really good system for combining two deluxe figures into a torso eventually so we can get proper Deluxe six member combiners like Liokaiser, Monstructor/Dinoking, Raiden and Devastator. They could do an entire year and a half long line with that line up and almost all of them have built in repaint potential. Aside from the obvious pair, Liokaiser can keep being a CW retool with some updated parts ala TT Selects combiners, Raiden can be repainted into "updated" Sixtrain and/or Sixliner, and Devastator can either go full Diaclone or G2. There's a lot they could do here.
Emerje
AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:We're only getting a new Menasor because his cartoon design was so much different from the toy we got and also had non-standard combining thanks to looking like a giant robot with cars hanging off of him so they could do something new in Legacy. There's really no need to redo most of the CW lineup aside from Liokaiser. Hopefully they come up with a really good system for combining two deluxe figures into a torso eventually so we can get proper Deluxe six member combiners like Liokaiser, Monstructor/Dinoking, Raiden and Devastator. They could do an entire year and a half long line with that line up and almost all of them have built in repaint potential. Aside from the obvious pair, Liokaiser can keep being a CW retool with some updated parts ala TT Selects combiners, Raiden can be repainted into "updated" Sixtrain and/or Sixliner, and Devastator can either go full Diaclone or G2. There's a lot they could do here.
Emerje
Titan Devastator is great and was recently reissued. I don't see the appeal of a Deluxe/Commander scale one, especially since Omega is a Titan. What we really need is a Devastator with Core class components. In addition to the redecoes you mentioned above, it could also be retooled into a Sixbuilder (with potentially significant design compromises.)
o.supreme wrote:There's also a good KO scaled down CW Devastator that has deluxe members. I have UW Dev to go with Siege Omega, and the KO which displays well with all my other combiners. Someone just needs to do the same thing with PotP Predaking.
sol magnus wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:We're only getting a new Menasor because his cartoon design was so much different from the toy we got and also had non-standard combining thanks to looking like a giant robot with cars hanging off of him so they could do something new in Legacy. There's really no need to redo most of the CW lineup aside from Liokaiser. Hopefully they come up with a really good system for combining two deluxe figures into a torso eventually so we can get proper Deluxe six member combiners like Liokaiser, Monstructor/Dinoking, Raiden and Devastator. They could do an entire year and a half long line with that line up and almost all of them have built in repaint potential. Aside from the obvious pair, Liokaiser can keep being a CW retool with some updated parts ala TT Selects combiners, Raiden can be repainted into "updated" Sixtrain and/or Sixliner, and Devastator can either go full Diaclone or G2. There's a lot they could do here.
Emerje
Titan Devastator is great and was recently reissued. I don't see the appeal of a Deluxe/Commander scale one, especially since Omega is a Titan. What we really need is a Devastator with Core class components. In addition to the redecoes you mentioned above, it could also be retooled into a Sixbuilder (with potentially significant design compromises.)
I got one of those reissued Davastator sets. Sadly, I can't agree that he's "great." He's okay, but I couldn't put him on my favorite figures I bought this year list. I wish I could. But I can't.o.supreme wrote:There's also a good KO scaled down CW Devastator that has deluxe members. I have UW Dev to go with Siege Omega, and the KO which displays well with all my other combiners. Someone just needs to do the same thing with PotP Predaking.
I think I may grab one of those to have the Constructions loose.
-Kanrabat- wrote:sol magnus wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:We're only getting a new Menasor because his cartoon design was so much different from the toy we got and also had non-standard combining thanks to looking like a giant robot with cars hanging off of him so they could do something new in Legacy. There's really no need to redo most of the CW lineup aside from Liokaiser. Hopefully they come up with a really good system for combining two deluxe figures into a torso eventually so we can get proper Deluxe six member combiners like Liokaiser, Monstructor/Dinoking, Raiden and Devastator. They could do an entire year and a half long line with that line up and almost all of them have built in repaint potential. Aside from the obvious pair, Liokaiser can keep being a CW retool with some updated parts ala TT Selects combiners, Raiden can be repainted into "updated" Sixtrain and/or Sixliner, and Devastator can either go full Diaclone or G2. There's a lot they could do here.
Emerje
Titan Devastator is great and was recently reissued. I don't see the appeal of a Deluxe/Commander scale one, especially since Omega is a Titan. What we really need is a Devastator with Core class components. In addition to the redecoes you mentioned above, it could also be retooled into a Sixbuilder (with potentially significant design compromises.)
I got one of those reissued Davastator sets. Sadly, I can't agree that he's "great." He's okay, but I couldn't put him on my favorite figures I bought this year list. I wish I could. But I can't.o.supreme wrote:There's also a good KO scaled down CW Devastator that has deluxe members. I have UW Dev to go with Siege Omega, and the KO which displays well with all my other combiners. Someone just needs to do the same thing with PotP Predaking.
I think I may grab one of those to have the Constructions loose.
I once had CW Titan Devastator. He's nice, but not 200$ nice. Plus he felt so cheap in hand and was too big to scale with the rest of CW. So I sold him
I bought that undersized K.O. and he's fantastic. Especially for 60$cab shipped.
Still, I agree that a new combiner line with dedicated deluxes that could be swapped around other teams would be amazing.
sol magnus wrote:They could even call it "Scramble City." LOL
Case in point:AcademyofDrX wrote:If there was going to be a do-over, "no kibble, everything integrated" is the worst design mandate I can imagine.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Case in point:AcademyofDrX wrote:If there was going to be a do-over, "no kibble, everything integrated" is the worst design mandate I can imagine.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Finally, GOBOTS way back in the early 1980's did it with tremendous success. Twice.
AcademyofDrX wrote:There are many other vintage play patterns I would like to see revisited, too, and combiners always suck up all of the enthusiasm.
Burn wrote:Pretenders done right is not a difficult concept.
The shells can be articulated. Rather than splitting in half front to back, only have the upper torso split. This allows for hip and leg articulation while the shoulders stay a part of the upper back portion.
The inner robot itself may have to be scaled down a bit as they may only be able to fit in the uppoer body, but the focus should be on the outer shell.
AcademyofDrX wrote:Honestly, I want to see Legacy Menasor before I decide to get excited about a return to combiners. There are many other vintage play patterns I would like to see revisited, too, and combiners always suck up all of the enthusiasm.
And you rightly should be. Those old fansubs from years ago are abysmal. They were done by some Russian group who clearly had no comprehension of how the English language works, being the most nonsensical translations you ever did see. Mistranslated names, completely made up names, wrong gender pronouns, and dialogue attributed to the wrong characters also plagued those subs. To put it mildly, Discotek's official subs should hopefully be a breath of fresh air.o.supreme wrote:I know the series has been completely subbed and online for a while, but I am excited to finally give it a proper watch.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
AcademyofDrX wrote:Emerje wrote:We're only getting a new Menasor because his cartoon design was so much different from the toy we got and also had non-standard combining thanks to looking like a giant robot with cars hanging off of him so they could do something new in Legacy. There's really no need to redo most of the CW lineup aside from Liokaiser. Hopefully they come up with a really good system for combining two deluxe figures into a torso eventually so we can get proper Deluxe six member combiners like Liokaiser, Monstructor/Dinoking, Raiden and Devastator. They could do an entire year and a half long line with that line up and almost all of them have built in repaint potential. Aside from the obvious pair, Liokaiser can keep being a CW retool with some updated parts ala TT Selects combiners, Raiden can be repainted into "updated" Sixtrain and/or Sixliner, and Devastator can either go full Diaclone or G2. There's a lot they could do here.
Emerje
Titan Devastator is great and was recently reissued. I don't see the appeal of a Deluxe/Commander scale one, especially since Omega is a Titan.
What we really need is a Devastator with Core class components.
In addition to the redecoes you mentioned above, it could also be retooled into a Sixbuilder (with potentially significant design compromises.)
It was Hasbro who made that tooling, not Fun Pub. The Build Team is the Constructicons' pretool.Emerje wrote:I'd be fine with that, just no RID Build Team, I was never a huge fan of that idea from BotCon.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:It was Hasbro who made that tooling, not Fun Pub. The Build Team is the Constructicons' pretool.Emerje wrote:I'd be fine with that, just no RID Build Team, I was never a huge fan of that idea from BotCon.
Fun Pub was given the heads to release, yes, but it was too expensive an endeavor for them, and they were sure that Hasbro wouldn't squander the opportunity to release Landfill themselves. To everyone's surprise, Hasbro did exactly that.Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It was Hasbro who made that tooling, not Fun Pub. The Build Team is the Constructicons' pretool.Emerje wrote:I'd be fine with that, just no RID Build Team, I was never a huge fan of that idea from BotCon.
I realize that, but Fun Pub seemed like the closest to actually using them even though Hasbro (pretty sure it was Warden) teased the possibility shortly after Devastator was announced.
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:To everyone's surprise, Hasbro did exactly that.
It is suspected that the Build Team might have been meant for a SDCC release, but instead we got "Devastator, but now with two eyes and shiny".Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:To everyone's surprise, Hasbro did exactly that.
I mean, when they came right out and asked if people wanted to see the Build Team done from the mold I guess it was a surprise that they never did that. But in hindsight we're just now getting our first Hasbro Titan repaint in 2021. Plus the previous design team didn't know who Metro Titan was so maybe we shouldn't have been surprised that corporate Hasbro was hesitant to recycle titan molds.
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Gauntlet101010 wrote:A clean, correctly assembled Galvatron too.
Makes me feel like an idiot for getting him. Galvy is one of my faves, but I absolutely hate it when they pull crap like this.
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