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sol magnus wrote:Good lawd I can't wait for Black Convoy. And is Galvatron a different shade of purple???

He does look less Red-Violet, and more just Violet... If that's the case, I'm going to be very tempted to get this Legacy version...

I'll admit it's possible that I missed something but when I went to CMDStore to look up their Legacy Pre-Orders they are showing a July 2022 release. Does that mean with the final wave of Kingdom seeing release now, we might go 5-6 months without a main Generations line at retail? Is there another wave I've forgotten about? Are Studio Series and exclusives supposed to fill the void?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll admit it's possible that I missed something but when I went to CMDStore to look up their Legacy Pre-Orders they are showing a July 2022 release. Does that mean with the final wave of Kingdom seeing release now, we might go 5-6 months without a main Generations line at retail? Is there another wave I've forgotten about? Are Studio Series and exclusives supposed to fill the void?

Try looking up other sites aside from CMDStore and tell us what they say.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll admit it's possible that I missed something but when I went to CMDStore to look up their Legacy Pre-Orders they are showing a July 2022 release. Does that mean with the final wave of Kingdom seeing release now, we might go 5-6 months without a main Generations line at retail? Is there another wave I've forgotten about? Are Studio Series and exclusives supposed to fill the void?

Try looking up other sites aside from CMDStore and tell us what they say.

The only other site I would use besides CMDStore and Amazon is BBTS and they're listing them for July as well. I don't get it, that just seems late to me.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll admit it's possible that I missed something but when I went to CMDStore to look up their Legacy Pre-Orders they are showing a July 2022 release. Does that mean with the final wave of Kingdom seeing release now, we might go 5-6 months without a main Generations line at retail? Is there another wave I've forgotten about? Are Studio Series and exclusives supposed to fill the void?

Try looking up other sites aside from CMDStore and tell us what they say.

The only other site I would use besides CMDStore and Amazon is BBTS and they're listing them for July as well. I don't get it, that just seems late to me.

Amazon shows a May release date, Pulse showed June and July

I think those are conservative estimates to account for supply chain uncertainties. Most likely stuff will begin appearing in March or April.

King Kuuga wrote:I think those are conservative estimates to account for supply chain uncertainties. Most likely stuff will begin appearing in March or April.

This. Seriously, this. Hasbro’s credo right now is to under promise and over deliver.

King Kuuga wrote:I think those are conservative estimates to account for supply chain uncertainties. Most likely stuff will begin appearing in March or April.

Agreed, especially when the likes of Walmart, Target and Amazon are using their own ships to bring in stuff. Wouldn't surprise me if they're being loaded on a ship right now since it takes around two months to cross the Pacific by cargo ship and then they have to unload, get the stuff into their main warehouse, send it to the distribution warehouses and then finally into stores. All in all that's about 3 months of work right there.

Emerje

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll admit it's possible that I missed something but when I went to CMDStore to look up their Legacy Pre-Orders they are showing a July 2022 release. Does that mean with the final wave of Kingdom seeing release now, we might go 5-6 months without a main Generations line at retail? Is there another wave I've forgotten about? Are Studio Series and exclusives supposed to fill the void?

Try looking up other sites aside from CMDStore and tell us what they say.

The only other site I would use besides CMDStore and Amazon is BBTS and they're listing them for July as well. I don't get it, that just seems late to me.

Amazon shows a May release date, Pulse showed June and July

Bulkhead only shows a May release, everything else Legacy wave one is July. SS shows April, nothing on core class.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'll admit it's possible that I missed something but when I went to CMDStore to look up their Legacy Pre-Orders they are showing a July 2022 release. Does that mean with the final wave of Kingdom seeing release now, we might go 5-6 months without a main Generations line at retail? Is there another wave I've forgotten about? Are Studio Series and exclusives supposed to fill the void?

Try looking up other sites aside from CMDStore and tell us what they say.

The only other site I would use besides CMDStore and Amazon is BBTS and they're listing them for July as well. I don't get it, that just seems late to me.

Amazon shows a May release date, Pulse showed June and July

Bulkhead only shows a May release, everything else Legacy wave one is July. SS shows April, nothing on core class.

Very weird for just 1 toy in an entire line to show à may release. While the classes are independently of oneanother, the first wave usually comes out within the same month.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bulkhead only shows a May release, everything else Legacy wave one is July. SS shows April, nothing on core class.

...including for Soundwave, who people have already been finding since mid/late December, which is further proof that the online preorder dates are worst-case-scenario predictions and/or completely separate from when figures will be at brick-and-mortar.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bulkhead only shows a May release, everything else Legacy wave one is July. SS shows April, nothing on core class.

...including for Soundwave, who people have already been finding since mid/late December, which is further proof that the online preorder dates are worst-case-scenario predictions and/or completely separate from when figures will be at brick-and-mortar.

Does that mean the other figures are hiding in the back somewhere?

primalxconvoy wrote:I've thought the same thing about Pretenders for a while too. Basically, the shell is just a "box" for the inner robot to fit into. I'm surprised no third party has made such shells for existing official toys in the past, in one form or another.

I wonder though, if Hasbro will just take the easy route and just make attachable armour pieces for various Transformers (possibly attaching via the same ports used by the "WFC" toys), which would simulate Pretender shells?

Maybe, but unlikely. One of the selling points of Pretenders was that they're basically two figures in one; detachable shells would just be more loose parts for kids to lose, especially if they had no function in alt-mode. Also, it would leave the robot joints exposed for articulation, which kinda defeats the whole purpose of the shell.

Still, not a bad idea. It would veer closer to the comic depiction where every section of the Pretender armor opened vertically, and if the pieces could somehow be integrated into the alt-modes as extra armor or weapons it would add more play value. For example, I'd love Pretender Monsters where the shell could be used as organic armor for Monstructor - it'd definitely fit the eldritch vibe that team always had. And it'd probably be more stable in term of weight than the shell-as-figure design would be.

I'd still prefer the action figure with the hollow torso for a Core/Micromaster robot, mind, but it has merit.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bulkhead only shows a May release, everything else Legacy wave one is July. SS shows April, nothing on core class.

...including for Soundwave, who people have already been finding since mid/late December, which is further proof that the online preorder dates are worst-case-scenario predictions and/or completely separate from when figures will be at brick-and-mortar.

Does that mean the other figures are hiding in the back somewhere?

From my experience, retail store sites are whack unless it's Forbidden Planet. Toys R Us, for example, lists every Transformer on their site for my country as sold out except Cyberverse One Step Megatron and Spark Armor Shockwave; yet these last few weeks the only figures I could find in my city were Rhinox, Cyclonus and whatever Ultra class Cyberverse that particular store has (last one I saw had Thunderhowl, Bumblebee and Hot Rod, if I recall).

Apparently Legacy figures have made their way into the hands of the early reviewers. PVP just put up a poll asking which Legacy figure he should review first

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bulkhead only shows a May release, everything else Legacy wave one is July. SS shows April, nothing on core class.

...including for Soundwave, who people have already been finding since mid/late December, which is further proof that the online preorder dates are worst-case-scenario predictions and/or completely separate from when figures will be at brick-and-mortar.

Does that mean the other figures are hiding in the back somewhere?

No, I doubt the figures are in stores right now and hiding in the back. I do think they are en route as we speak or possibly even making their way into the distribution warehouses already. Legacy will be new packaging, so easier for retailers to see, "oh this is different and a new line, we should really put out these older ones we still have first. For Studio Series there is no packaging change, so easier for them to slip forward so to speak.

Also with the previous SS Voyager wave having the Sweeps as army builders, I can see how the Soundwave/Hot Rod wave would show up earlier than the other Studio Series classes. Those Sweeps went fast around me.

Blaster came today, but I've given most of my attention to Eject. The improvement over the base Micromaster cassette design is very incremental, even less than I expected since it's almost entirely in the head and the arms, but the effect is incredible. I like this design much more, and the clear plastic doesn't even bother me, though I wish there was less green in the color. Really hopeful for a Rewind and the rest of the TF:TM crew in the near future.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Really hopeful for a Rewind and the rest of the TF:TM crew in the near future.

How do you feel about buying Twincast when you already have Blaster?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Really hopeful for a Rewind and the rest of the TF:TM crew in the near future.

How do you feel about buying Twincast when you already have Blaster?

I have nearly a dozen of the tetrajet seeker mold, and I've been army building some of the SS86 guys, so a Blaster redeco is an easy sacrifice if it comes to it. My preference would be for a box set like the GS Micromaster collection we got during Earthrise, but I'll take what I can get.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Really hopeful for a Rewind and the rest of the TF:TM crew in the near future.

How do you feel about buying Twincast when you already have Blaster?

I have nearly a dozen of the tetrajet seeker mold, and I've been army building some of the SS86 guys, so a Blaster redeco is an easy sacrifice if it comes to it. My preference would be for a box set like the GS Micromaster collection we got during Earthrise, but I'll take what I can get.

Well current leaks say Twincast with Rewind is in Wave 4

Which is especially good since we've never ever gotten a proper release of Twincast from Hasbro in all of the Transformers brand's existence.

My first legacy figure, and I didn't even steal it.

Sucks to not be a youthiever

They started Shipping then? Hope you have his friend ready to go with him

Still no news on my end for Zarak. It will take a long while I guess.

ZeroWolf wrote:They started Shipping then? Hope you have his friend ready to go with him

The UK retailers started to ship them before Xmas, so some will have received before or just after. I collected mine today and its got what would be minor damage (torso nubbin) but it's in a main focal area, I could shear it off and paint it but for the money it should be good out of the box even if there was a 3rd party cartoon accurate chest attachment I think it would still irk me knowing it is there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUjNv8k ... imeVsPrime

Prime Vs Prime reviewed Skids. Looks like an ok figure but not a great start to legacy imo. Something just feels off about it.