The Energon Pub

I too am very much looking forward to the Velocitron line's release of this mold as Black Convoy (presumably, they wanna keep the name "Scourge" assigned to the Sweep leader, and so are using the Japanese name instead).

The first question anyone asks whenever a toy from one line is reissued in another is: "is there anything different?" And the answer this time is YES. This Galvatron does not have those extra battle damage paint apps. The canon is also left full clear with no additional paint on it. Here are two images below comparing both modes. They come with a quick review from Ziltama who posted that here.

This is what we should've had in the first place: correct shoulders and no nonsensical battle damage.

This is just a mini-review that goes over differences between the Legacy and Kingdom versions of Galvatron. The main obvious difference is that all the "battle damage" has been removed. Granted, the way it was done on the Kingdom version didn't make a whole lot of sense, and sometimes, less is more. The "battle damage" marks have been removed the cannon, forearms, chest, and lower legs. The bare plastic and paint colors are otherwise the same.

I have noticed that various joints are indeed tighter, including the hips and skirt flaps. This was a pleasant change to find.

...and that's it. The accessories are the same, so didn't include pics of those.

Is this worth $50 to double dip again? Probably not, unless your Kingdom version had various QC issues and/or the incorrectly assembled shoulders...and you really, really like Galvatron.

Not sure if this is the start of a trend for Hasbro to re-release figures again with slight changes. It's one thing if it's on a cheap figure, but this is a $50 Leader Class figure. That's a bit steep.

It's nice that Legacy Galvatron is cleaned up. But not nice enough to pay another $50+ to get a second copy. Like many others, I fixed the shoulders on my copy of Kingdom Galvatron, so he's OK now. The differences in paint aren't worth double-dipping on this figure, at least not IMO.

Mine fortunately came with correct shoulders assembled, and the paint isn't really a big deal to me. I forsee however many a Legacy Galvatron being purchased and swapped out with Kingdom Galvatron then returned for a refund.

The aspect that bothers me about this prime are those pylons on his shoulders, severely impedes one's range of vision. I never like this look for Prime anyway so i won't be getting it, but if the were to repaint it for another character quite possibly.

I hope Amazon gets Laser Prime in soon, he looks great. I've already added the funds to the card for payment for him and Dragstrip. Just waiting for confirmation.

Those 2 are the lats 2021 pre-orders I still have pending.

I just don't get it.
The greatest thing about G2 prime, was that his trailer became a combat base where all your toys together could fight of decepticons.
... but with this legacy hommage, they completely dropped it and made the trailer boring.

Could anyone explain to me how that makes sense?
Surely the could have designed it so all your 5mm port weapons and weaponizers can plug in?

Sculyblast wrote:I just don't get it.
The greatest thing about G2 prime, was that his trailer became a combat base where all your toys together could fight of decepticons.
... but with this legacy hommage, they completely dropped it and made the trailer boring.

Could anyone explain to me how that makes sense?
Surely the could have designed it so all your 5mm port weapons and weaponizers can plug in?

How did they drop it exactly?

The Trailer still becomes a combat base:

Pretty much like the original, minus all the spring loaded and air pump gimmicks that are a big no no these days.

I think the OP referring to the apparent lack of 5mm ports, also having AIRLOCK compatibility with previous bases would have been a nice touch.

Plus, this trailer retains the basic shape of the original, but it lacks in the original's arsenal of weapons (e.g. - the missile battery, the disc launcher, the tower's missile, etc.), which other figures could stand behind to look like they were using them. That's probably what Sculybast was referring to.



Year of the Goat version pictured to better highlight the weapons.

I just picked up Laser Prime Saturday. The trailer does have four 5mm ports on each side, so it does have cross functionality with weaponized.

I'm still confused as to how reusing the shins and feet from Siege Prime was a better idea than new molds.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just picked up Laser Prime Saturday. The trailer does have four 5mm ports on each side, so it does have cross functionality with weaponized.

I'm still confused as to how reusing the shins and feet from Siege Prime was a better idea than new molds.

Money saved by reusing an existing mold?

I picked up Legacy Galvatron on Friday, if I knew he hasn't been featured yet I would have posted pictures.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:I just don't get it.
The greatest thing about G2 prime, was that his trailer became a combat base where all your toys together could fight of decepticons.
... but with this legacy hommage, they completely dropped it and made the trailer boring.

Could anyone explain to me how that makes sense?
Surely the could have designed it so all your 5mm port weapons and weaponizers can plug in?

How did they drop it exactly?

The Trailer still becomes a combat base:

Pretty much like the original, minus all the spring loaded and air pump gimmicks that are a big no no these days.

The trailer that was "dropped" was ER Optimus's.
This Laser one is pretty well done with maybe just a missile launcher missing. Appart that, the looks and function is on point.

Main issue with ERs trailer is the size. Otherwise its a pretty good scaled representation of the original.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Overquoting to remind you that it's missing the two Diaclone seats (no biggie but still) and the main culprit is in order to have Roller, a crucial part of the trailer, you have to buy a SUPER EXPENSIVE (at least by importing to Canada) a Pulse exclusive set. That's almost criminal in my book.

No argument here. Having to buy another figure entirely to get Roller, the Axe and a better looking rifle is a low class move by Hasbro. Still I went and did it, because I found him for cheap. Otherwise, I would not have bothered.

Also, Roller’s port is criminally lose on the peg inside the trailer, so he just rolls around inside if you move him.


And if you are getting real nit picky about it, it still missing the Gas nozzle and hose.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I just picked up Laser Prime Saturday. The trailer does have four 5mm ports on each side, so it does have cross functionality with weaponized.

I'm still confused as to how reusing the shins and feet from Siege Prime was a better idea than new molds.

Nice. But compare that to Commander Rodimus Prime, where the trailer has like 15 ports on the outside, and 30 on the inside. The darn thing has so many ports, so close together, that you can't use them all

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Sculyblast wrote:I just don't get it.
The greatest thing about G2 prime, was that his trailer became a combat base where all your toys together could fight of decepticons.
... but with this legacy hommage, they completely dropped it and made the trailer boring.

Could anyone explain to me how that makes sense?
Surely the could have designed it so all your 5mm port weapons and weaponizers can plug in?

How did they drop it exactly?

The Trailer still becomes a combat base:

Pretty much like the original, minus all the spring loaded and air pump gimmicks that are a big no no these days.

The trailer that was "dropped" was ER Optimus's.
This Laser one is pretty well done with maybe just a missile launcher missing. Appart that, the looks and function is on point.

Main issue with ERs trailer is the size. Otherwise its a pretty good scaled representation of the original.

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Overquoting to remind you that it's missing the two Diaclone seats (no biggie but still) and the main culprit is in order to have Roller, a crucial part of the trailer, you have to buy a SUPER EXPENSIVE (at least by importing to Canada) a Pulse exclusive set. That's almost criminal in my book.

Yup. Roller and the axe should have been included at minimum with ER Prime, especially at the leader class price point. Still a nice figure though. And I like connecting the trailer when base building. Would have been cool if the Legacy trailer was able to connect too.

I could do without Laser Prime's trailer; what I miss is the working headlights!! I loved those!!

I agree that it would be nice if the trailer for Legacy Laser Prime had more 5mm ports in base mode, and A.I.R.Lock connectors. Still not as sad as the ER trailer though; I imagine Optimus himself being apparently simpler probably helped.

Although I'll still probably only get it if a Toxitron deco happens.

Starseeker wrote:Yup. Roller and the axe should have been included at minimum with ER Prime, especially at the leader class price point. Still a nice figure though. And I like connecting the trailer when base building. Would have been cool if the Legacy trailer was able to connect too.

The budget got used up on the extensive modifications to Optimus himself(who definitely skews toward "overengineered in the name of the toon body" IMO), on his fancy folding rifle, and on the trailer box itself. It should obvious how thin it was stretched giving us as much as we got, considering how limited the repair/turret drone is compared to the G1 toy and the lack of much in the undercarriage department. They clearly struggled to make it happen at all with him, and I think that deserves more respect than it gets.

I do feel it's ultimately futile, because WFC Optimus himself doesn't actually scale too well with other WFC figures to begin with. His robot mode is too short going by the chart they tried to abide by, and his scale in vehicle mode with the sports car-based ones is off as well (he's 1/48 scale to their still being in the Classics 1/32 ballbark) and the trailer (a shadow of the G1) fares no better; only Minibots can even fit. It was nevertheless a valiant effort, though, and on reflection deserves credit for that.

But it makes clear we need a Commander-class toy to do him full justice. It's quite the feat that they stretched a post-DOTM non-movie Leader as far as they did, but it was never going to reach far enough.

Oh, and it's not like they "held back" the accessories that came with the Centurion Drone. Those were brand-new tooling made as an accessory pack. The reason they made you buy another figure to get them is simply because they seem to have difficulty wrapping their heads around the idea of selling just a bag of accessories.

Overcracker wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Overquoting to remind you that it's missing the two Diaclone seats (no biggie but still) and the main culprit is in order to have Roller, a crucial part of the trailer, you have to buy a SUPER EXPENSIVE (at least by importing to Canada) a Pulse exclusive set. That's almost criminal in my book.

No argument here. Having to buy another figure entirely to get Roller, the Axe and a better looking rifle is a low class move by Hasbro. Still I went and did it, because I found him for cheap. Otherwise, I would not have bothered.

Also, Roller’s port is criminally lose on the peg inside the trailer, so he just rolls around inside if you move him.


And if you are getting real nit picky about it, it still missing the Gas nozzle and hose.

I have no idea if the axe, Roller, or other accessories could have been included in the Leader Prime box and still make a profitable release, but I'm taking the other perspective, that the accessories pack was a fantastic release. I didn't want everything in it, but it was more than the sum of its parts. I accept that there are modern production constraints that mean we won't always get everything we "should," so I appreciate the catch-all Centurion pack filled in some of those gaps.

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, this trailer retains the basic shape of the original, but it lacks in the original's arsenal of weapons (e.g. - the missile battery, the disc launcher, the tower's missile, etc.), which other figures could stand behind to look like they were using them. That's probably what Sculybast was referring to.



Year of the Goat version pictured to better highlight the weapons.

Exactly,

plus the "walls" of the basemode have been reduced from 4 cm to 2 cm.
The 4 cm was great in g2 when most toys were rather small.
With current deluxe sized toys, the 2cm wall does not really provide any cover.

I think it's a shame the trailer does not have more oumpf, but the days i bought figures for playability are mostly behind me