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Barricade.it wrote:Tarn is the coolest figure since a long time. I've stopped collecting TFs but I think I'll buy it asap.

I still ask myself how could They spoil Menasor with those "broken" cars on the arms and, most of all, with Breakdown and Wildrider on the back of the legs (ad made from two identical molds, except for the legs, so Breakdown's alt mode has a Ferrari front with a Lamborghini rear): the choiche of linking BD and WR in that position is unexplanable. It could have benn a great figure, otherwise.

To me the arms look less broken now that they don't have two (four?) elbows made from two skinny rods holding the ends together. Never really liked the CW elbow solution.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Barricade.it wrote:Tarn is the coolest figure since a long time. I've stopped collecting TFs but I think I'll buy it asap.

I still ask myself how could They spoil Menasor with those "broken" cars on the arms and, most of all, with Breakdown and Wildrider on the back of the legs (ad made from two identical molds, except for the legs, so Breakdown's alt mode has a Ferrari front with a Lamborghini rear): the choiche of linking BD and WR in that position is unexplanable. It could have benn a great figure, otherwise.

To me the arms look less broken now that they don't have two (four?) elbows made from two skinny rods holding the ends together. Never really liked the CW elbow solution.

Emerje

Same

Emerje wrote:

Barricade.it wrote:Tarn is the coolest figure since a long time. I've stopped collecting TFs but I think I'll buy it asap.

I still ask myself how could They spoil Menasor with those "broken" cars on the arms and, most of all, with Breakdown and Wildrider on the back of the legs (ad made from two identical molds, except for the legs, so Breakdown's alt mode has a Ferrari front with a Lamborghini rear): the choiche of linking BD and WR in that position is unexplanable. It could have benn a great figure, otherwise.

To me the arms look less broken now that they don't have two (four?) elbows made from two skinny rods holding the ends together. Never really liked the CW elbow solution.

Emerje

To me it looked like the combiners had gorilla arms that way. So I always kept mine collapsed. Yeah, it took away elbow articulation, but it looks better on display and it's more stable. But I guess it depends on how much one likes to pose the combiners differently.

Hotshot's legs look terrible. He's a "from the waist and up" bot. Interested to see the review on it.

Siger wrote:Hotshot's legs look terrible. He's a "from the waist and up" bot. Interested to see the review on it.

The rest of him looks terrible as well. The upper torso has little actual detailing, most of it looks fairly flat except for the silver pieces. And that car mode? Definitely inferior to both the original and Universe releases. Which is surprising, considering Starscream turned out very well. Hopefully Armada Prime lands on that side of the fence.

Rodimus Prime wrote:To me it looked like the combiners had gorilla arms that way. So I always kept mine collapsed. Yeah, it took away elbow articulation, but it looks better on display and it's more stable. But I guess it depends on how much one likes to pose the combiners differently.

I always have the legs extended if the arms are. Made them biggerand more proportionate. It's not that noticable on CW menasor using the folded car front vehicles as legs. They always have deluxes stood in front of them for the most part but stability is greatly reduced (worse for bruticus due to the way swindle/brawn form the legs). some kind of 3d printed plug in piece should help with that though.

I picked up Jaxius last night, on sale at Targét for $23 bucks. Can't beat and really he's a lovely figure, made with a lot of love for the source material. Much like ER Prime, the hinged hands add a lot of personality to him, as does the super comic accurate 90's headsculpt.

Transformation is, overall, pretty great! Tolerances are good and everything locks together in both modes well, all his parts move around quite a bit more than you'd think going from robot mode, speaking of in that mode he does cut a very clean, intergrated figure. Tall too. The jet mode is also solid, the cockpit area being hollow on the bottom is a little baffling given just how considered the rest is. I ported the smaller transparent gun on to the bottom and that covered it up well enough, but it's really not a big deal nor is the arms being on the bottom of the hull.

Overall, if you have the same semi wacky taste as me, he's worth a check

I was really looking forward to a cool Needlenose Figure.
I so hoped that he was going to fill a slot in my Decepticon Army and in my heart that has been empty for so long.

But then this atrocious mishap hits our collective doorstep.
WTF?!
I truly thought that we had grown beyond this crap!
I thought Transformers design was advanced and trying not to be this 2 bit joke that we all fell for 20 years ago!

But here it is again!
A folded up pile of kibble robot hiding under a jet.
Really?
REALLY!?

no thanks.

X3ROhour wrote:I was really looking forward to a cool Needlenose Figure.
I so hoped that he was going to fill a slot in my Decepticon Army and in my heart that has been empty for so long.

But then this atrocious mishap hits our collective doorstep.
WTF?!
I truly thought that we had grown beyond this crap!
I thought Transformers design was advanced and trying not to be this 2 bit joke that we all fell for 20 years ago!

But here it is again!
A folded up pile of kibble robot hiding under a jet.
Really?
REALLY!?

no thanks.

I'm looking forward to it. There's only so much a Deluxe can do to hide bot kibble and at least there's a transformation beyond a bot tucking in his arms and legs. His bot mode is perfection (ignoring the gaps because it's 2022 and they aren't really worth pointing out anymore).

Emerje

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

I might be a little late to the party on this one. But considering the original figure (which still looks like one of the better G1 figures) was anyone else a little disappointed the new "Leader Class" figure is a redeco and minor retool of Astrotrain?

In the Velocitron thread.

Sabrblade wrote:In the Velocitron thread.

Thanks! I did wonder why there was no mention of it here? Since I went back a couple pages.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Barricade.it wrote:Tarn is the coolest figure since a long time. I've stopped collecting TFs but I think I'll buy it asap.

I still ask myself how could They spoil Menasor with those "broken" cars on the arms and, most of all, with Breakdown and Wildrider on the back of the legs (ad made from two identical molds, except for the legs, so Breakdown's alt mode has a Ferrari front with a Lamborghini rear): the choiche of linking BD and WR in that position is unexplanable. It could have benn a great figure, otherwise.

To me the arms look less broken now that they don't have two (four?) elbows made from two skinny rods holding the ends together. Never really liked the CW elbow solution.

Emerje

To me it looked like the combiners had gorilla arms that way. So I always kept mine collapsed. Yeah, it took away elbow articulation, but it looks better on display and it's more stable. But I guess it depends on how much one likes to pose the combiners differently.

I liked the CW arms, it helped give them more beef and reach. I had nothing against that style of limb

Got Red Cog yesterday (need a better name) and while I certainly like the additional weapons (especially thanks to the Target sale), it's a little odd to me that the one that's designed to look like Chromia's gun from Siege... Isn't just Chromia's gun from Siege? The barrel attachment no longer works as a scope and the connection point is designed differently. I still like having the extra guns, specifically for Spin-Out and Cordon who got jipped outta weapons like Sunstreaker, but it's just such an odd choice to design a completely new mold, based on an existing mold, and take away functionality

Red Cog himself though is a good figure, much like normal Cog, though mine has a stronger connection in the combined vehicle mode than my normal Cog did for some reason. Overall I'd say it's a good set, just wish it wasn't so overpriced for what it is

So out of all the reveals a while back why is Core Rumble still MIA?

Probably because it's a SS86 release rather than a legacy evolutions toy

Toys R Us is the WORST place to shop for Transformers because they are around 15 to 25% more expensive than the competition for reasons.

But sometime, TrU throw some unexpected sale our way.

It's the case for Red Cog, who is CHEAPER than regular deluxe price at 33$CAN (24$US)!
The catch is it's local pick up only so you must have a TrU in your area that have one in stock. I managed to catch one. Will you?

https://www.toysrus.ca/en/Transformers- ... 658A5.html



Also, holy crap that regular price. 55$CAN (40$US) is no joke...

Emerje wrote:

X3ROhour wrote:I was really looking forward to a cool Needlenose Figure.
I so hoped that he was going to fill a slot in my Decepticon Army and in my heart that has been empty for so long.

But then this atrocious mishap hits our collective doorstep.
WTF?!
I truly thought that we had grown beyond this crap!
I thought Transformers design was advanced and trying not to be this 2 bit joke that we all fell for 20 years ago!

But here it is again!
A folded up pile of kibble robot hiding under a jet.
Really?
REALLY!?

no thanks.

I'm looking forward to it. There's only so much a Deluxe can do to hide bot kibble and at least there's a transformation beyond a bot tucking in his arms and legs. His bot mode is perfection (ignoring the gaps because it's 2022 and they aren't really worth pointing out anymore).

Emerje

The jetbots of TF PRIME had no problem incorporating body parts into the fuselage of Starscream or Dreadwing. The designer just took the time, skill & imagination that was necessary to get the best out of form. This thing might as well be straight out of Combiner Wars! Further back! Machine Wars!
In CW, wasn't one of the big complaints about how Silverbolt wasn't doing much robot in disguising?
The bot mode is... okay. I just had better hopes for 2023. This the future! If we can't get jetpack or flying cats, can we at least get transformers that try to give a scrap?

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Got Red Cog yesterday (need a better name) and while I certainly like the additional weapons (especially thanks to the Target sale), it's a little odd to me that the one that's designed to look like Chromia's gun from Siege... Isn't just Chromia's gun from Siege? The barrel attachment no longer works as a scope and the connection point is designed differently. I still like having the extra guns, specifically for Spin-Out and Cordon who got jipped outta weapons like Sunstreaker, but it's just such an odd choice to design a completely new mold, based on an existing mold, and take away functionality

Red Cog himself though is a good figure, much like normal Cog, though mine has a stronger connection in the combined vehicle mode than my normal Cog did for some reason. Overall I'd say it's a good set, just wish it wasn't so overpriced for what it is

Rog

X3ROhour wrote:The jetbots of TF PRIME had no problem incorporating body parts into the fuselage of Starscream or Dreadwing.

Like I said, Deluxe. Those two were Voyagers, they had more room and higher parts counts to work with to maneuver parts around. The Deluxe Beast Hunters versions of Starscream and Dreadwing made no attempt to hide the bot parts.

Emerje

X3ROhour wrote:

Emerje wrote:

X3ROhour wrote:I was really looking forward to a cool Needlenose Figure.
I so hoped that he was going to fill a slot in my Decepticon Army and in my heart that has been empty for so long.

But then this atrocious mishap hits our collective doorstep.
WTF?!
I truly thought that we had grown beyond this crap!
I thought Transformers design was advanced and trying not to be this 2 bit joke that we all fell for 20 years ago!

But here it is again!
A folded up pile of kibble robot hiding under a jet.
Really?
REALLY!?

no thanks.

I'm looking forward to it. There's only so much a Deluxe can do to hide bot kibble and at least there's a transformation beyond a bot tucking in his arms and legs. His bot mode is perfection (ignoring the gaps because it's 2022 and they aren't really worth pointing out anymore).

Emerje

The jetbots of TF PRIME had no problem incorporating body parts into the fuselage of Starscream or Dreadwing. The designer just took the time, skill & imagination that was necessary to get the best out of form. This thing might as well be straight out of Combiner Wars! Further back! Machine Wars!
In CW, wasn't one of the big complaints about how Silverbolt wasn't doing much robot in disguising?
The bot mode is... okay. I just had better hopes for 2023. This the future! If we can't get jetpack or flying cats, can we at least get transformers that try to give a scrap?

I’ll give you Starscream. He was well designed with very little robot visible under the jet.

Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Starscream Gallery

Dreadwing / Skyquake, not so much. Rose tinted nostalgia glasses and all.


Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Skyquake Gallery


However, both of them were Voyager Class figures.


NeedleNose is a deluxe that had to share budget with his target masters. That alone puts a hamper on his engineering.


If you want a good deluxe comparison, I’d say the Titan’s Return Triggerhappy and his retools are quite good in that respect but are more cybertronian.

For the class size and constraints I think Needlenose is o.k. Could he be better, sure, but he’s definitely not terrible.

Yeah, I was bothered by Needlenose at 1st, but I've come to terms with the fact that it's the best were gonna get. I wish he could have been sold at Selects price for a deluxe plus 2 battlemaster-size Targetmasters. Like Cyclonus. It would have freed up sone of the budget of the Targetmasters to go towards Needlenose himself. But it's either this or the hella expensive TFCC figure.

X3ROhour wrote: This the future! If we can't get jetpack or flying cats, can we at least get transformers that try to give a scrap?

Flying cats? Thats what their tails are for...


"And now....to invent...the CATAPULT!"

Mel Brooks FTW

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, I was bothered by Needlenose at 1st, but I've come to terms with the fact that it's the best were gonna get. I wish he could have been sold at Selects price for a deluxe plus 2 battlemaster-size Targetmasters. Like Cyclonus. It would have freed up sone of the budget of the Targetmasters to go towards Needlenose himself. But it's either this or the hella expensive TFCC figure.

Selects is for redecos and remolds, though, not new molds. In order for Needlenose to have been released in Selects, he would've had to have been a redeco of an existing mold instead of his own new mold.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, I was bothered by Needlenose at 1st, but I've come to terms with the fact that it's the best were gonna get. I wish he could have been sold at Selects price for a deluxe plus 2 battlemaster-size Targetmasters. Like Cyclonus. It would have freed up sone of the budget of the Targetmasters to go towards Needlenose himself. But it's either this or the hella expensive TFCC figure.

Selects is for redecos and remolds, though, not new molds. In order for Needlenose to have been released in Selects, he would've had to have been a redeco of an existing mold instead of his own new mold.

Is that a rule Hasbro specifically stated?

Regardless, we've had voyager jet molds in WFC (I can't remember if we had deluxes), and if the WFC Astrotrain mold can be rereleased in Legacy, so can others, whether retooled or just redecoed. And Selects is online only, so the price can be more flexible to accommodate the extra Targetmaster.