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Which is why I posted the CGI model, which was his first design. The toys were based on that, and it was curvy.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Also, this would be another case of a Prime design being changed from curvy to blocky again.
Looking at the original toys, Prime Cliffy is not that curvy.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Which is why I posted the CGI model, which was his first design. The toys were based on that, and it was curvy.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Also, this would be another case of a Prime design being changed from curvy to blocky again.
Looking at the original toys, Prime Cliffy is not that curvy.
Every Prime toy of a show character was based on their CGI model (pre-Season 3, that is). Those came first.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Which is why I posted the CGI model, which was his first design. The toys were based on that, and it was curvy.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Also, this would be another case of a Prime design being changed from curvy to blocky again.
Looking at the original toys, Prime Cliffy is not that curvy.
To be fair, a Prime toy based on the CGI can only be non-transformable ones like a 3-Zero or R.E.D. If made officially.
won't ever bother to do "MP style" Prime toys.
Ever.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Every Prime toy of a show character was based on their CGI model (pre-Season 3, that is). Those came first.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Which is why I posted the CGI model, which was his first design. The toys were based on that, and it was curvy.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Also, this would be another case of a Prime design being changed from curvy to blocky again.
Looking at the original toys, Prime Cliffy is not that curvy.
To be fair, a Prime toy based on the CGI can only be non-transformable ones like a 3-Zero or R.E.D. If made officially.
won't ever bother to do "MP style" Prime toys.
Ever.
Remember, this was back when Hasbro was trying to push themselves as a media company instead of just a toy company, and so made Prime with the intent of it standing on its own without the direct need to give it toys. The toys were made later, after the CGI models were all done.
The realm at the center of the Earth in Inhumanoids.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Back to the main line, after looking at the United reveals, I have one simple question: what's "Infernac"?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The realm at the center of the Earth in Inhumanoids.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Back to the main line, after looking at the United reveals, I have one simple question: what's "Infernac"?
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The realm at the center of the Earth in Inhumanoids.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Back to the main line, after looking at the United reveals, I have one simple question: what's "Infernac"?
I should have guessed...Anyhow, I have my eyes set on those Rock Lord wannabes, especially since reading on the wiki at least the first two are based on real rock types. Educational!
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Big Grim wrote:Don't particularly give a fig for Tigerhawk. But repaint him into Universe Razorclaw and you'd have my money in a flash!
~ Grim
It'd be a missed opportunity not to!
Then again, we've yet to see a Cryotek out of Dragon Megatron
I'm hoping we get a Rampage and Transmetal cheetor too, so we can get Shockaract and Cataclysm
Rtron wrote:I mean, someone at Hasbro clearly has something against the Prime and Animated styles, so yeah, they will probably ignore all of Cliffjumper's "curves".
Animated Lockdown doesn't have a windshield chest, yes, but Cyberverse and RotF/IDW Lockdown do, and considering the listing just says "Lockdown" and not "Animated Lockdown", there's no guarantee that Animated Lockdown is actually the version of the character that we're getting.Overcracker wrote:Chase looks closer to Cliff than Lock.
It would require an extreme level of retooling to turn him into the tall and lanky Lockdown silhouette.
Lockdown doesn’t even have a roof/windshield chest. Its too far removed, and parts end up in the wrong places.
I just don’t see how they can make him Lockdown, without a massive re-engineering, at which point its likely easier to make him a new mold.
All that said, the toe lights and the claw accessory do kind of point in that direction.
Nemesis Primal wrote:Animated Lockdown doesn't have a windshield chest, yes, but Cyberverse and RotF/IDW Lockdown do, and considering the listing just says "Lockdown" and not "Animated Lockdown", there's no guarantee that Animated Lockdown is actually the version of the character that we're getting.Overcracker wrote:Chase looks closer to Cliff than Lock.
It would require an extreme level of retooling to turn him into the tall and lanky Lockdown silhouette.
Lockdown doesn’t even have a roof/windshield chest. Its too far removed, and parts end up in the wrong places.
I just don’t see how they can make him Lockdown, without a massive re-engineering, at which point its likely easier to make him a new mold.
All that said, the toe lights and the claw accessory do kind of point in that direction.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought that about Animated Motormaster too.
Also, Weird choice by HasTak to produce Lio Convoy then skip to Magmatron instead of Dragon Galvatron??
Plus, fiction-wise, Magmatron has simply been used more and done more as a result. Magmatron has not only his appearances in Beast Wars Neo but also in IDW's 2006 Beast Wars comics. Galvatron, by contrast, has really only been in Beast Wars Second, which he spent the first third of either passed out asleep from accidental overdoses or running amok while being drunk out of his wits. He didn't become an actual character with an active role in the story until two-thirds into the series.william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought that about Animated Motormaster too.
Also, Weird choice by HasTak to produce Lio Convoy then skip to Magmatron instead of Dragon Galvatron??
Magmatron is better known since his toy was released in the west. And he happens to be made up of Dinosaurs. It's a safer bet. And while Lio Convoy was not released I the west, he is an Optimus type toy with a lion alt mode. If ever you are curious as to why Hasbro chooses something over another, just imagine presenting the toys to kids/parents to gage interest and you'll have your answer.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Man that's some really pretty art. Much better than what we've gotten in the last decade or so.Sabrblade wrote:...Tidal Wave comic panels...
Emerje wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:Big Grim wrote:Don't particularly give a fig for Tigerhawk. But repaint him into Universe Razorclaw and you'd have my money in a flash!
~ Grim
It'd be a missed opportunity not to!
Then again, we've yet to see a Cryotek out of Dragon Megatron
I'm hoping we get a Rampage and Transmetal cheetor too, so we can get Shockaract and Cataclysm
They'll do those after they do Packrat and Fractyl. So I guess never...![]()
Emerje
Sabrblade wrote:Plus, fiction-wise, Magmatron has simply been used more and done more as a result. Magmatron has not only his appearances in Beast Wars Neo but also in IDW's 2006 Beast Wars comics. Galvatron, by contrast, has really only been in Beast Wars Second, which he spent the first third of either passed out asleep from accidental overdoses or running amok while being drunk out of his wits. He didn't become an actual character with an active role in the story until two-thirds into the series.william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought that about Animated Motormaster too.
Also, Weird choice by HasTak to produce Lio Convoy then skip to Magmatron instead of Dragon Galvatron??
Magmatron is better known since his toy was released in the west. And he happens to be made up of Dinosaurs. It's a safer bet. And while Lio Convoy was not released I the west, he is an Optimus type toy with a lion alt mode. If ever you are curious as to why Hasbro chooses something over another, just imagine presenting the toys to kids/parents to gage interest and you'll have your answer.
Heck, Unicron disguised as Galvatron's likeness did way more in just five episodes of Neo than Galvatron himself did in the entirety of his own series.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I really hope this is true. I could not care any less about the combining gimmick, it was dumb 20 years ago and it's dumb now. Only reason we got it back then was to counter Prime and Jetfire combining. I will get this Tidal Wave if it's indeed a Titan, but his supposedly combining bits will be staying attached to him.william-james88 wrote:Regarding the issu with Tidal wave, he will have parts that combine with Megatron/Galvatron, but it wont be the entirety. So you get the best of both worlds.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Much like the rivals to Metroplex and TR Fort Max. The fans of Big Convoy and Dragon Galvatron will likely be kept waiting for modern updates, for the foreseeable future.
-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Much like the rivals to Metroplex and TR Fort Max. The fans of Big Convoy and Dragon Galvatron will likely be kept waiting for modern updates, for the foreseeable future.
The fact that We've been thrown curveballs since Siege and we got so many, SO MANY characters that we though we would never have, AND things we never thought to ask, makes me sure that I shouldn't never, ever, rule out any possibilities.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Much like the rivals to Metroplex and TR Fort Max. The fans of Big Convoy and Dragon Galvatron will likely be kept waiting for modern updates, for the foreseeable future.
The fact that We've been thrown curveballs since Siege and we got so many, SO MANY characters that we though we would never have, AND things we never thought to ask, makes me sure that I shouldn't never, ever, rule out any possibilities.
Metroplex - 2013
Fort Max - 2016
Trypticon - 2017
Scorponok - 2020
I didn't say never here. I said much like the wait between City Bot rivals (four years each pair). That the fans looking for the companion Big Convoy and Dragon Galvatron to their Magmatron and Lio Convoy. Have likely got a long wait ahead of them.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Apart Optimus VS Megs, these things take time. So, let's just be patient.
william-james88 wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I thought that about Animated Motormaster too.
Also, Weird choice by HasTak to produce Lio Convoy then skip to Magmatron instead of Dragon Galvatron??
Magmatron is better known since his toy was released in the west. And he happens to be made up of Dinosaurs. It's a safer bet. And while Lio Convoy was not released I the west, he is an Optimus type toy with a lion alt mode. If ever you are curious as to why Hasbro chooses something over another, just imagine presenting the toys to kids/parents to gage interest and you'll have your answer.
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nightprowler says never say never.![]()
Emerje wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Nightprowler says never say never.![]()
It's weird that Hasbro will readily pull out designs of figures that have never been released before, but pass over fan favorite decos for no apparent reason. Emerje
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