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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:45 am

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Rtron wrote:I can't really judge the figure on such a blurry photo. But the idea of updating Silverbolt feels weird, like most of the Fuzor / Transmetal range, because the things to "fix" are very specific. In Silverbolt's case, it would be the headsculpt and the backpack. But everything else about the old figure was really accurate, and feels like it could be inferior in a new version due to budget cuts.


There may also be the size. Vintage Silverbolt was a deluxe at the time. A big deluxe, but a deluxe nonetheless.
So I expect a new version to be a voyager at the very least.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Rtron » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:47 am

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Rtron wrote:I can't really judge the figure on such a blurry photo. But the idea of updating Silverbolt feels weird, like most of the Fuzor / Transmetal range, because the things to "fix" are very specific. In Silverbolt's case, it would be the headsculpt and the backpack. But everything else about the old figure was really accurate, and feels like it could be inferior in a new version due to budget cuts.


There may also be the size. Vintage Silverbolt was a deluxe at the time. A big deluxe, but a deluxe nonetheless.
So I expect a new version to be a voyager at the very least.


He's confirmed to be a voyager in the listings. I'm not too particular about scale and don't own an original Silverbolt, but if he's a Beast Wars deluxe, he already sort of would be about current voyager size, wouldn't he? In which case he'd be tall enough.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:52 am

Rtron wrote:I can't really judge the figure on such a blurry photo. But the idea of updating Silverbolt feels weird, like most of the Fuzor / Transmetal range, because the things to "fix" are very specific. In Silverbolt's case, it would be the headsculpt and the backpack. But everything else about the old figure was really accurate, and feels like it could be inferior in a new version due to budget cuts.

I don't agree. The original toy is great for its line, with a fantastic sculpt and play features, and the articulation is quite good as well. But it would never pass as a modern figure generally or a Generations figure specifically, even beyond the brick-like backpack. If you only care about a show-accurate bot mode, then hold on to your original or seek out an affordable used copy. For many of us with modern Transformers collections, this will be a welcome pickup, even if it ultimately sacrifices the screen-perfect sculpt. Honestly, I'm in just for the increased poseability in the wings, which was another limitation in the original, since their orientation was fixed.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Rtron » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:59 am

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Rtron wrote:I can't really judge the figure on such a blurry photo. But the idea of updating Silverbolt feels weird, like most of the Fuzor / Transmetal range, because the things to "fix" are very specific. In Silverbolt's case, it would be the headsculpt and the backpack. But everything else about the old figure was really accurate, and feels like it could be inferior in a new version due to budget cuts.

I don't agree. The original toy is great for its line, with a fantastic sculpt and play features, and the articulation is quite good as well. But it would never pass as a modern figure generally or a Generations figure specifically, even beyond the brick-like backpack. If you only care about a show-accurate bot mode, then hold on to your original or seek out an affordable used copy. For many of us with modern Transformers collections, this will be a welcome pickup, even if it ultimately sacrifices the screen-perfect sculpt. Honestly, I'm in just for the increased poseability in the wings, which was another limitation in the original, since their orientation was fixed.


Yeah, I mean, it's subjective. Personally, I don't mind styles clashing a bit within a line, and actually prefer figures from different universes to clash, because that's the fun in them having distinct origins. I wish I had an original to hold on to! I was a little kid when Beast Wars was on, so I only have three of the 1998 Beast Wars dudes. And one of them is Airazor, who wasn't even on screen.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:08 am

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Rtron wrote:I can't really judge the figure on such a blurry photo. But the idea of updating Silverbolt feels weird, like most of the Fuzor / Transmetal range, because the things to "fix" are very specific. In Silverbolt's case, it would be the headsculpt and the backpack. But everything else about the old figure was really accurate, and feels like it could be inferior in a new version due to budget cuts.

I don't agree. The original toy is great for its line, with a fantastic sculpt and play features, and the articulation is quite good as well. But it would never pass as a modern figure generally or a Generations figure specifically, even beyond the brick-like backpack. If you only care about a show-accurate bot mode, then hold on to your original or seek out an affordable used copy. For many of us with modern Transformers collections, this will be a welcome pickup, even if it ultimately sacrifices the screen-perfect sculpt. Honestly, I'm in just for the increased poseability in the wings, which was another limitation in the original, since their orientation was fixed.


Yeah, I mean, it's subjective. Personally, I don't mind styles clashing a bit within a line, and actually prefer figures from different universes to clash, because that's the fun in them having distinct origins. I wish I had an original to hold on to! I was a little kid when Beast Wars was on, so I only have three of the 1998 Beast Wars dudes. And one of them is Airazor, who wasn't even on screen.

I sold off almost my entire Beast Wars collection in part to fund Unicron. Vintage toys look good standing around on a shelf, but usually don't pose or play very well. I decided I was all-in on modern figures as a result.

Though because I had bought a second Silverbolt to keep on card, I decided to hold onto that, so he's one of the few vintage beasts I kept. TM Tarantulas is the other, because that design is one of the best of all time, and there's no way he'll look as good in a modern toy because of the chrome.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Rtron » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:12 am

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Rtron wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
Rtron wrote:I can't really judge the figure on such a blurry photo. But the idea of updating Silverbolt feels weird, like most of the Fuzor / Transmetal range, because the things to "fix" are very specific. In Silverbolt's case, it would be the headsculpt and the backpack. But everything else about the old figure was really accurate, and feels like it could be inferior in a new version due to budget cuts.

I don't agree. The original toy is great for its line, with a fantastic sculpt and play features, and the articulation is quite good as well. But it would never pass as a modern figure generally or a Generations figure specifically, even beyond the brick-like backpack. If you only care about a show-accurate bot mode, then hold on to your original or seek out an affordable used copy. For many of us with modern Transformers collections, this will be a welcome pickup, even if it ultimately sacrifices the screen-perfect sculpt. Honestly, I'm in just for the increased poseability in the wings, which was another limitation in the original, since their orientation was fixed.


Yeah, I mean, it's subjective. Personally, I don't mind styles clashing a bit within a line, and actually prefer figures from different universes to clash, because that's the fun in them having distinct origins. I wish I had an original to hold on to! I was a little kid when Beast Wars was on, so I only have three of the 1998 Beast Wars dudes. And one of them is Airazor, who wasn't even on screen.

I sold off almost my entire Beast Wars collection in part to fund Unicron. Vintage toys look good standing around on a shelf, but usually don't pose or play very well. I decided I was all-in on modern figures as a result.

Though because I had bought a second Silverbolt to keep on card, I decided to hold onto that, so he's one of the few vintage beasts I kept. TM Tarantulas is the other, because that design is one of the best of all time, and there's no way he'll look as good in a modern toy because of the chrome.


The chrome thing is interesting, I think it occupies a similar space as the minicon/combination/cyberkey gimmick of the Unicron Trilogy, in that it's a central feature of the original line... that will no doubt get dropped in any new reinterpretations of those figures.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:38 am

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The figure should be bigger than the original, too. Screen accuracy aside, the wing articulation alone isn't enough to make him a Voyager, otherwise Airazor would be one too because her wings are pretty crazy.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:53 pm

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Even with a very blurry photo, I like what I'm seeing
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:06 pm

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:00 pm

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CxzALp2MvRS ... BiNWFlZA==

Post for thundertron is up
I noticed he was called star Raider both by Mark and by BMac, is that an alternate name for Star seeker or is that an error? Or they changed the name because "raider" is more menacing and "seeker" makes them sound like explorers?
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:27 pm

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Razorbeast88 wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/CxzALp2MvRS/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Post for thundertron is up
I noticed he was called star Raider both by Mark and by BMac, is that an alternate name for Star seeker or is that an error? Or they changed the name because "raider" is more menacing and "seeker" makes them sound like explorers?


It's more for the fact that Starscream and his moldmates are the seekers and no one else.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:34 pm

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Razorbeast88 wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/CxzALp2MvRS/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Post for thundertron is up
I noticed he was called star Raider both by Mark and by BMac, is that an alternate name for Star seeker or is that an error? Or they changed the name because "raider" is more menacing and "seeker" makes them sound like explorers?

Maybe just rebranding it because "Seeker" already refers to the Decepticon Jets and they thought it might be confusing? Or maybe star raider is just synonymous with space pirate in Transformers and Star Seeker is the group. There's no mention of "raider" in the Star Seeker topic of TFWiki.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:38 pm

Razorbeast88 wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/CxzALp2MvRS/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Post for thundertron is up
I noticed he was called star Raider both by Mark and by BMac, is that an alternate name for Star seeker or is that an error? Or they changed the name because "raider" is more menacing and "seeker" makes them sound like explorers?

I really didn't want to buy this figure, but after looking at these shots, I think I might have to. My collection philosophy is "G1 plus whatever's cool," and this is definitely cool.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Emerje » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:54 pm

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I really want that in Go Prime colors (which is just Nemesis colors, but come on!). Alpha Trizor would be nice, too. Don't really need another Leo Prime from this mold, though.

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I have all four, but I find the transformation frightening, it's so fragile feeling thanks to the clear plastic.

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:17 pm

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Post for thundertron is up
I noticed he was called star Raider both by Mark and by BMac, is that an alternate name for Star seeker or is that an error? Or they changed the name because "raider" is more menacing and "seeker" makes them sound like explorers?
It's probably just an error. He later uses "star seeker" correctly further into the post.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:13 am

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:37 am

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I like this mold a lot, the transformation is cool and both modes look nice and clean. Those shoulders are unsettling though, I hope the pieces around there are solid

Chase looks good but I'm not attached to the character, nor do I find the headsculpt cool enough to convince me to pick him up. Can't wait to get whatever this guy gets retooled into though, hopefully Cliffjumper. If lockdown I'd still get it though
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:03 pm

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby Munkky » Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:19 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Is Beast Megatron from Kingdom, the T-Rex one, will be reissued in Legacy next year? I thought I saw some listing that confirms it if I remember. :-?

I double-checked the leaked product listings we have, and no, T-Rex Megatron is nowhere on there. The Leaders in future waves include G1 Sandstorm in wave 2, Armada Galvatron in wave 3, a Soundwave that we don't know very much about yet in wave 4, and Thundertron that might just be the Voyager figure with some extra stuff as a Wal-Mart exclusive.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

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if ross is really doing scourges/nemesis at $17 dunno why theyve chosen to repack g2 prime. Sandstorm better be very impressive at leader class pricing.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

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They have to really outdo themselves to beat the stellar T-30 Sandstorm.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby AcademyofDrX » Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:45 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:if ross is really doing scourges/nemesis at $17 dunno why theyve chosen to repack g2 prime. Sandstorm better be very impressive at leader class pricing.


They have to really outdo themselves to beat the stellar T-30 Sandstorm.

I'm glad people like T30 Sandstorm, but I want my G1 figures to look at least a little like G1. He's desperately overdue for a figure inspired by his original appearance. A VTOL helicopter was an inspired modernization, especially for a retool, but it's not my Sandstorm, it never did anything at all for me.
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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:if ross is really doing scourges/nemesis at $17 dunno why theyve chosen to repack g2 prime. Sandstorm better be very impressive at leader class pricing.


They have to really outdo themselves to beat the stellar T-30 Sandstorm.

I'm glad people like T30 Sandstorm, but I want my G1 figures to look at least a little like G1. He's desperately overdue for a figure inspired by his original appearance. A VTOL helicopter was an inspired modernization, especially for a retool, but it's not my Sandstorm, it never did anything at all for me.


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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

Postby M. Spector » Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:47 pm

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Re: Transformers Legacy Line Discussion

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blackeyedprime wrote:if ross is really doing scourges/nemesis at $17 dunno why theyve chosen to repack g2 prime. Sandstorm better be very impressive at leader class pricing.


They have to really outdo themselves to beat the stellar T-30 Sandstorm.

I'm glad people like T30 Sandstorm, but I want my G1 figures to look at least a little like G1. He's desperately overdue for a figure inspired by his original appearance. A VTOL helicopter was an inspired modernization, especially for a retool, but it's not my Sandstorm, it never did anything at all for me.

Totally agree. I passed on that one, it was just too far off the mark for me. I've looked at getting one more recently, but just couldn't. All I see is a weak Springer retool, he deserves a mold made specifically for himself like the other Triplechangers, he's the only one that hasn't gotten that yet while everyone else has already had that twice (once in Broadside's case). Looking forward to seeing how the new one turns out.

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