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News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:56 am

This whole G1ification is starting to eat it's own tail. I get the appeal of getting this treatment for characters from non G1 eras, having them all fit in a cohesive look. But what's the point of making a G1 version of Prime Arcee when she is already a toon version of an already existing G1 character? Now we have 2 G1 arcees, how much freaken G1 do you need???? I don't think it looks good either, just something that exists. Honestly, these reveals were not that great. Now I am off to get my Pulsecon exclusive.

News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:58 am

I'm not paying near £50 for deluxe Ravage with a tape. Price madness. Going to have to wait and see the price of Galvatron. Hasbros got me with a few Power Rangers purchases (Cog, Pig, Pirantis and I'm liking the near 12" Megazord). I dont remeber Zartan being £37!!! but sadly I'll be paying that for him

makes Ravages price almost look okay.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:59 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Lazer Optimus look boss. But will it be a Commander, or a leader?

Legacy Laser Optimus Prime is Leader Class.

NICE! And that trailer look to be more complete and less cheap than the ER Optimus one.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:02 pm

Hmm Prime Arcee looks a but better then how bulky turned out, probably a plus with not having to share a mold with Optimus Prime.

I love kickback's wings.

Dragstrip, I'm undecided at the moment. If i got him, and his buddies, they'd probably spend most of the time in uncombined mode (assuming they're working with cars stuck on limbs G1 Menasor).

Lazer Prime, didn't see it coming that it was a WfC Prime retool.

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:02 pm

william-james88 wrote:This whole G1ification is starting to eat it's own tail. I get the appeal of getting this treatment for characters from non G1 eras, having them all fit in a cohesive look. But what's the point of making a G1 version of Prime Arcee when she is already a toon version of an already existing G1 character? Now we have 2 G1 arcees, how much freaken G1 do you need???? I don't think it looks good either, just something that exists. Honestly, these reveals were not that great. Now I am off to get my Pulsecon exclusive.

The Arcees are still two different characters, they just have the same name. I don't know if that's canon, but that's the wiki's problem, not mine. (Edited to add: they agree.)

News Credits: 4501 · by **william-james88** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:02 pm

News Credits: 17 · by **AcademyofDrX** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:09 pm

I am probably going to get everyone but Prime, since I have the TR multipack version and intend to get the inevitable Scourge. I got a handful of the Prime-unique* characters including Bulkhead and Knockout, but I'll probably sell them to replace with these G1 versions since that will better integrate with the rest of my collection. I already have the Insecticons from Prime Wars, but I can keep them as clones and use Legacy as the standards. My UW Menasor is probably worthless now, but I'm eager to upgrade him. I saw someone criticize Dragstrip's alt-mode, but I think I'll like it a lot more than the UW take.

This is far from the first time I'm buying Generations G1 again, but between SS86 and Legacy, they're now the majority of my new purchases. Only Skids will be truly new to my collection.

News Credits: 95 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:11 pm

Again, stocky thicc shortstack Arcee.

Kickback look nice.

Lazer Optimus is GORGEOUS. And he will be even more so with a Reprolabels upgrade.

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:35 pm

Ohhhh that Laser Prime is going to make a BEAUTIFUL Scourge, hell yeah.

Dragstrip can't be further off my radar, zero interest in redoing combiners we already did.

Kickback is everything I wanted him to be, give me Bombshell like this Hasbro. Shrapnel can come too, I guess...actually heck, just do all of 'em. The cartoon trio, Deluxe Insecticon retools, Diaclone repaints, the whole deal. Give me a full-on Insecticon hive, I'm ready.

Arcee is great, love it. They handled her kibble about as well as they could, I think, the Energon arm blades aren't half-bad, I really like that bike mode, and even if they probably only did it for retool purposes, I like that her torso is less overtly bikini-looking. Not only am I down for this as my definite Arcee (G1 Arcee ain't even a contender), but I'd totally grab a Flamewar or the potential Road Rocket from this.

EDIT: Ooh, and Bulkhead has actual molded vehicle bits and weapon storage under the alt mode tarp, it isn't just hiding overt robot bits or something? Niiiice.

Munkky wrote:It's a shame they didn't reveal Blaster or any of the Cores.

I wonder if they didn't reveal Blaster because he's still in Kingdom? They still haven't put up a reveal or orders for Pipes and Slammer, who are supposedly his wave-mates, and last year we did still get some Earthrise reveals after the Kingdom announcement.

Lack of Cores really bugs me though, I was really looking forward to seeing Iguanus.

Flashwave wrote:Kickback: If I didnt have the trio from Generations all ready I would be very excited about this. Maybe they will give us a Ransack redeco?

We do have a rumor for A Ransack as part of a 4-pack, problem is we don't know which Ransack specifically.

News Credits: 1 · by **The_Cryptid_Person** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:36 pm

Anyone know how tall kickback is? I’d buy him if he’s a normal deluxe, but probably not if he’s minibot sized
Bummed they didn’t reveal the other voyager.
Arcee looks more like strongarm to me, and the flat panel torso was bad on SS Dino and is still bad here

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 pm

If the Voyager Soundwave listing for Legacy does turn out to be a repack of Netflix Soundwave, I’m betting it will finally come with a Buzzsaw “Micromaster.” That would be a nice parallel with the G1 release of Soundwave. Plus, Legacy Blaster is rumored to come with either Eject or Rewind, so why not do the same for Soundwave? I also hope the deco will be improved, like matching the yellows/golds on the tape door and chest stripes better, and adding red pinstripes to the wrists and batteries.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:43 pm

Arcee looks nice. The G1ification works better than Bulkhead. But I won't get her. I already have FE and no room for it.

Laser Prime has ER Prime's lower legs? Kinda wish he had Siege's, though. Once you see the vestigial trailer port you can't unsee it. Still, makes me look forward to the Nemesis version (or Black Convoy, whatever).

Dragstrip. I guess I'll get the Stunticons and have faith that Menasor looks good? Wish I didn't have to do though, though. It'd be nice to have a full reveal for the combiner.

Kickback looks great.

News Credits: 18 · by **blackeyedprime** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:46 pm

I'm kinda hoping Soundwave goes back to G1 sized cassettes and same with Blaster as the WFC ones are pretty terrible but passable as chronoform watch bots.

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:47 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Laser Prime has ER Prime's lower legs? Kinda wish he had Siege's, though. O

Since ER Prime has Siege's lower legs... wish granted!

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:51 pm

william-james88 wrote:This whole G1ification is starting to eat it's own tail. I get the appeal of getting this treatment for characters from non G1 eras, having them all fit in a cohesive look. But what's the point of making a G1 version of Prime Arcee when she is already a toon version of an already existing G1 character? Now we have 2 G1 arcees, how much freaken G1 do you need???? I don't think it looks good either, just something that exists. Honestly, these reveals were not that great. Now I am off to get my Pulsecon exclusive.

I got to agree with you there. I mean, I appreciate the attempt, unifying the brands and all into one universal aesthetic. But.... it wasn't just the shows or the toys that made the different eras of transformers great, it was the unique styles for each.

I am sure at some point they will drop a geewunified Animated or something bot that I will have to have because reasons, but for now, I am really not feeling it. MONEY SAVED YAY! :DANCE:

Kickback and Dragstrip however, Oh ya, I need them boys.

Don't know about lazerrod prime. He looks great, even with re-using earthrise/siege prime parts. But do I need a modern version of him, when I have the original? it was a pretty epic optimus to begin with. Probably not. The obligatory Scourge/Nemesis repaint, given that it literally is the mold the first version of the character is based off, also falls into the same, "It's neat, but I am happy with my original" category.

welp, wake me when Tarantulus, Inferno, and Blaster are shown off.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:52 pm

Overcracker wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Laser Prime has ER Prime's lower legs? Kinda wish he had Siege's, though. O

Since ER Prime has Siege's lower legs... wish granted!

I mean, not quite. ER remolded Seige's legs and has a vestigial port on the right upper hand side of the shin as a result. It's almost unnoticeable, but ... I noticed it.

by **God Sunstreaker** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:54 pm

I can't listen in.

Is the Galvatron a Hasbro Pulse exclusive?

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:58 pm

God Sunstreaker wrote:I can't listen in.

Is the Galvatron a Hasbro Pulse exclusive?

Yes.

by **God Sunstreaker** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:02 pm

Overcracker wrote:
God Sunstreaker wrote:I can't listen in.

Is the Galvatron a Hasbro Pulse exclusive?

Yes.

Thank you!

News Credits: 1 · by **bluecatcinema** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:05 pm

These all look great. Especially Prime Arcee.

News Credits: 2 · by **Spider5800** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:17 pm

Woof, this line is clearly not for me. Getting a real Combiner Wars aesthetic from a lot of these, and that is not a compliment.

Only one that looks OK to me is Laser OP, which is apparently another reuse of the WFC/Earthrise mold, with another tiny trailer like Earthrise had.

Reeeeeally need those last Beast Wars characters to be good...

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:19 pm

Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Laser Prime has ER Prime's lower legs? Kinda wish he had Siege's, though. O

Since ER Prime has Siege's lower legs... wish granted!

I mean, not quite. ER remolded Seige's legs and has a vestigial port on the right upper hand side of the shin as a result. It's almost unnoticeable, but ... I noticed it.

Well, not that it had that much use on the Siege figure anyway.

It was there to accommodate the trailer Siege did not come with. And yes you could peg in the shield / Axe there, but there are also 6 other ports you could use in vehicle mode.

You can still use it on ER to plug in a weapon if you want to, so its at least as useful as it was on Siege.